Oh please. This thread has no longer produced any productive discussion and has degraded into people bragging about A-teams, B-teams who is more hardcore etc etc.
All these braggarts are laughable. Most of the hardcore community left in May of 2013 when open beta ended even before the whole Lemonade stand fad started. You guys are the big fish in a small pond in a PVP that is more dependent on gear and class than skill. Congrats.
Since EoA crushed Chocolate A-Team with arround 1000 - 200, i would say EoA is the only TOP guild out there atm.
Yeah. That didn't happen with CS A-team. Or with matching comps (our rainbow vs 2 GWFs and 2 TRs). It was a good match, but this kind of comment is completely unnecessary.
god meldanen i was around in lemonade stand also i was around in spades before that. and I was the one who got requiem to make CS so next time please learn who you are speaking to before you decide to type random <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> in a forum
I don't even know what is going on. Adam, you joined as a PvE player. Let's all be respectful.
Also, we're the guild that's premaded ET the most, and we never had premades vs ET where players potted up. No QQ from them because they have the p2wness to not mind a pointless pots arms-race (not even meant as a criticism, just a fact).
Yeah. At this point, discussion has just devolved. I don't know why the conversation changed from the pros and cons of pots to specific guilds. CS, EoA, and ET should have never entered the conversation.
My GWF is built in a way that I have more Tenacity and more HP (stats you cannot get from Elixirs). Using Elixirs makes me hit my caps. If my opponent, who has built his character without counting in Elixirs (or even built it without using ACT or similar combat trackers, just like "I feel Armpen is good, Power is good, Tenacity is good...", rule of thumb estimate), uses Elixirs, I'm happy with it. Because I know that I will profit a lot more from them. So no, they don't nullify the advantage. They never have. They are part of your equipment like everything else, just temporary... like Black Ice in M3.
Ok, as an Elixir enthusiast, let me be more specific: in an organized PvP premade, we can always decide what we use and what not upfront.
Since almost all premades run without elixirs and with no restrictions on emblems/gear, are you implying that you optimized your GWF for pug-stomping?
Or are you trying to change the dynamic? If you want to change the dynamic, then eventually builds will be modified to optimize pots (just as yours). Then we're back to square 1: pots are an arms-race. Right now, they provide you an advantage over more-geared players because those players have agreed not to optimize their builds for pots.
As Godlysoul mentioned, mod 3 brings temporary gear. black and white becomes grey.
Back on topic, then. See the above questions/comments regarding potting. Given my comments above, what's the arms-race counter argument in-favor of pots?
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All these braggarts are laughable. Most of the hardcore community left in May of 2013 when open beta ended even before the whole Lemonade stand fad started. You guys are the big fish in a small pond in a PVP that is more dependent on gear and class than skill. Congrats.
Can this thread just close already?
Enforce rainbow parties in PvP ---- 10v10 PvP ----
Yeah. That didn't happen with CS A-team. Or with matching comps (our rainbow vs 2 GWFs and 2 TRs). It was a good match, but this kind of comment is completely unnecessary.
I don't even know what is going on. Adam, you joined as a PvE player. Let's all be respectful.
Also, we're the guild that's premaded ET the most, and we never had premades vs ET where players potted up. No QQ from them because they have the p2wness to not mind a pointless pots arms-race (not even meant as a criticism, just a fact).
Yeah. At this point, discussion has just devolved. I don't know why the conversation changed from the pros and cons of pots to specific guilds. CS, EoA, and ET should have never entered the conversation.
Win or Lose We Booze.
(^^^Guild Name)
So we all win in the end! :cool:
Back on topic, then. See the above questions/comments regarding potting. Given my comments above, what's the arms-race counter argument in-favor of pots?
Also, for a related discussion, see: Elixirs, Feasts, and Caprese
Iyon the Dark