I Honnestly don't see how they can remove the profit of those who did not get the stone through the promotion and resold it with out a rollback.
They can't. A roll back will make a lot more customers angry than leaving it in though. In the end, no matter what we all say or feel about the issue, it is a customer service nightmare. I do feel bad for whoever has to make the final decision.
I am yet to find one person on the forum or in game that can explain what is ACTUALLY going on. So there's a promotion about transferring in 1000 zen where you get an ioun stone of radiance. It's supposed to be BoP but it's BoE. So what? Each account can only get 1 and under rather expensive circumstances. Considering people are selling them for 5 gold, I'm going to guess that there's a way to get an unlimited number of them. Is that the glitch? Because a simple binding problem wouldn't flood the market and get everyone's undees in a bundle if you can only ever get 1 per account anyway.
Reading in zone chat about people that made 4000 gold on those stones can be good for the game if those people stays with all that gold from a exploit. but im sure pwe / cryptic finds a way to solve this after patch mess.
Even Caturday did not get all the exploiters, just majority. Most are wise to keep quiet, then you read about someone bragging elsewhere the irony of their real 'Caturday Survivor' title. And that just hurts legit supporters.
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zankardMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
I am yet to find one person on the forum or in game that can explain what is ACTUALLY going on. So there's a promotion about transferring in 1000 zen where you get an ioun stone of radiance. It's supposed to be BoP but it's BoE. So what? Each account can only get 1 and under rather expensive circumstances. Considering people are selling them for 5 gold, I'm going to guess that there's a way to get an unlimited number of them. Is that the glitch? Because a simple binding problem wouldn't flood the market and get everyone's undees in a bundle if you can only ever get 1 per account anyway.
Yes, that is the problem. Funny thing is when this stone originally became available to the ones that participated in the offer it was BoP and it magically turned into BoE after this patch... Also what's the reasoning behind being able to get more than one per character? This is also true for another companion from the gift shop but its BoP so i guess that's fine.... or could this be broken too? be right back..
I am yet to find one person on the forum or in game that can explain what is ACTUALLY going on. So there's a promotion about transferring in 1000 zen where you get an ioun stone of radiance. It's supposed to be BoP but it's BoE. So what? Each account can only get 1 and under rather expensive circumstances. Considering people are selling them for 5 gold, I'm going to guess that there's a way to get an unlimited number of them. Is that the glitch? Because a simple binding problem wouldn't flood the market and get everyone's undees in a bundle if you can only ever get 1 per account anyway.
The stone is an account unlock. Meaning evey character, current and future, gets the stone, not 'one per account'.
I am yet to find one person on the forum or in game that can explain what is ACTUALLY going on. So there's a promotion about transferring in 1000 zen where you get an ioun stone of radiance. It's supposed to be BoP but it's BoE. So what? Each account can only get 1 and under rather expensive circumstances. Considering people are selling them for 5 gold, I'm going to guess that there's a way to get an unlimited number of them. Is that the glitch? Because a simple binding problem wouldn't flood the market and get everyone's undees in a bundle if you can only ever get 1 per account anyway.
Not to be the one to punt on this, but it is completely against the rules of the Forums to discuss the specifics of any in game exploits. So I doubt anyone is going to be stupid enough to go into detail on this.
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magrynMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 18Arc User
edited March 2014
Expectations of the improvements to PvP (as advertised) - a major fail. On the bright side .. Cryptic don't manufacture aircraft..
The stone is an account unlock. Meaning evey character, current and future, gets the stone, not 'one per account'.
Well then I have a reason to be pissed. I got the e-mail, charged more than 1000 zen in that period, and the rewards vendor still says I don't qualify for anything. Am I missing something here? In fact, this is the 2nd time that I've not qualified for something that I actually did in reality.
Well then I have a reason to be pissed. I got the e-mail, charged more than 1000 zen in that period, and the rewards vendor still says I don't qualify for anything. Am I missing something here? In fact, this is the 2nd time that I've not qualified for something that I actually did in reality.
If your email is the recent one, then only expect your stone after the 10th.
So is it safe to go in and play yet? I missed this event last time and I'm dying to run my 2 new toons through it, but I don't want to bother yet if there's going to be a rollback. Heck, I don't even want to go questing at the moment if I'm going to have to redo it all later.
I guess now's a good chance to run to the store for more event snacks
Any "official" updates here are greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Yeah, too soon to tell since there is no details once again, we will see, but from past history it safe to presume that exploiters are once again "lucky".
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ghoulz66Member, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 3,748Arc User
edited March 2014
Wow, people have no shame. Still so many on there exploiting this....
Last time there was a major game wide item exploit the devs just called the cheaters lucky and didn't seem to care. Dungeons go months unfixed and exploiters farm them without suffering any recourse. Exploit early and exploit often is the message this sends.
Yeah, too soon to tell since there is no details once again, we will see, but from past history it safe to presume that exploiters are once again "lucky".
People forget two factors in the decision the last time an exploit like this happened.
It happened the day of the Module 2 patch, which had a lot of advertising on other sites.
The last time a rollback happened (caturday), the servers were offline for 12 hours. You can expect any attempt to manually remove the horses without a rollback to take almost as long. These two facts lead us to...
Any significant downtime on that day would have cut into their profit margins more than just letting people keep the horses.
So unless Cryptic stealth added Module 3 today the odds are that they may be issuing punishments and/or removing ill gotten gains from the patch.
If they don't change them to BoP. Wouldn't that make the allure almost useless? Since you could get a free stone from a buddy. When ever you needed one.
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magrynMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 18Arc User
edited March 2014
Sorry lads, I'm just another disassociated ion non recipient. I just hope that the poor folks that I gave over 3000 AD to did not in turn gift it on to anyone else. To say that I'm sad about this is fiasco is an understatement....after curling up under my desk in the foetal position following the message Cryptic gave me that I wasn't worthy..I decided to spend yet more AD a,long the same vein thinking that I was indeed .... Un worthy .... I have stupidly repeated the same action three times....I am indeed un worthy
They can't. A roll back will make a lot more customers angry than leaving it in though. In the end, no matter what we all say or feel about the issue, it is a customer service nightmare. I do feel bad for whoever has to make the final decision.
I've been reading the other posts and I think a workable idea would be what one person suggested. To make sure the "bound" flag is on all of the stones. It wouldn't undo the economic damage already done, but it would certainly stop the selling without a rollback and without making lots of legitimate players seriously upset at losing all the work and expense they've put out.
I've been reading the other posts and I think a workable idea would be what one person suggested. To make sure the "bound" flag is on all of the stones. It wouldn't undo the economic damage already done, but it would certainly stop the selling without a rollback and without making lots of legitimate players seriously upset at losing all the work and expense they've put out.
I agree with this 100%. I also think it will end up being the final solution.
Name one MMO that has not had issues on patch day.
Any way, I see this as an opportunity to smooth over some bad feelings from the initial promotion. I recall multiple angry threads over the pet. Take as you will, but to me this is a chance for some good PR. Look at it as serendipity. This cat is well out of the bag at this point, I can't walk into a zone in the game w/o it coming up. Sure you can delete them, but will you alienate more people by leaving them, or by deleting them?
Another game had an issue like this where people were exploiting the Mayan event, their solution was to just give the reward to every player that logged in to the event to pull the teeth of the exploiter. I thought it was a good solution, because you get more flies with honey than vinegar.
I have never been to an mmo which consistently screw up in some way .. This is the first.
Not to mention that it take forever to fix something.
Example: CN free DD chest and CN hunter and tr kill dragon from gate glitch. It has been reported numerous time but totally ignored my developers.
I'm going to close this thread now. These issues should be resolved now after our evening maintenance. One solution was to make all BoE Ioun Stone of Radiance BoP. And, we'll continue to evaluate the situation and take further action if necessary. We can't say which steps are next but if we do come up with anything else, you'll be the first to know. Again, we sincerely apologize the inconvenience today's update has caused.
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They can't. A roll back will make a lot more customers angry than leaving it in though.
Thank you for posting that pic Praxismirros, I was wondering how much the RADs where going to be this time around.
You saved me (imo) wasted time, in farming this event.
Well according to the site you are supposed to get 10k from the box so its bugged too atm -_-
Yes, that is the problem. Funny thing is when this stone originally became available to the ones that participated in the offer it was BoP and it magically turned into BoE after this patch... Also what's the reasoning behind being able to get more than one per character? This is also true for another companion from the gift shop but its BoP so i guess that's fine.... or could this be broken too? be right back..
https://twitter.com/ShionobiWarrior/status/441742333713719297
Still bugged or not, saves me from wasting my time right now. I'm just not playign until the maintenace is completed, schedule for tonight.
EDIT: Seeing as they confirmed that no rollbacks will be done, i might as well continue leveling up my character.
The stone is an account unlock. Meaning evey character, current and future, gets the stone, not 'one per account'.
Not to be the one to punt on this, but it is completely against the rules of the Forums to discuss the specifics of any in game exploits. So I doubt anyone is going to be stupid enough to go into detail on this.
Is any action going to be taken against players who took advantage of the bug ? I'm sure you must be in a position to answer this by now please?
Considering the bug is ongoing and you are letting it run another 3 and a half hours I really hope you are...
I guess now's a good chance to run to the store for more event snacks
Any "official" updates here are greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Yeah, too soon to tell since there is no details once again, we will see, but from past history it safe to presume that exploiters are once again "lucky".
People forget two factors in the decision the last time an exploit like this happened.
So unless Cryptic stealth added Module 3 today the odds are that they may be issuing punishments and/or removing ill gotten gains from the patch.
I've been reading the other posts and I think a workable idea would be what one person suggested. To make sure the "bound" flag is on all of the stones. It wouldn't undo the economic damage already done, but it would certainly stop the selling without a rollback and without making lots of legitimate players seriously upset at losing all the work and expense they've put out.
I agree with this 100%. I also think it will end up being the final solution.
I have never been to an mmo which consistently screw up in some way .. This is the first.
Not to mention that it take forever to fix something.
Example: CN free DD chest and CN hunter and tr kill dragon from gate glitch. It has been reported numerous time but totally ignored my developers.
Well on the bright side it cost a fortune to upgrade to blue quality. So ... Hope the damage some is not too great.