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It gets tiring randomly joining PvP to get 2 CW's and 2 TR's on your team 60% of time

wholyhandgrenadewholyhandgrenade Member Posts: 0 Arc User
edited August 2013 in PvE Discussion
Can't wait until TR's get nerfed just so I can randomly join without having at least 2 of them on my team 90% of the time. CW's are almost just as bad, but not quite as bad. I wish there were an option I could check that wouldn't put me on the same team as 2 CW's and 2 TR's. The CW's will fight off point, and the TR's will run around and go stealth and offer little assistance, meaning that a non CW or TR is simply going to get ganked the entire match by everyone else while the team loses cause although the team has so many kills its laughable nobody takes team points and the team can't hold anything that it does capture cause you don't hold playing off point and going around trying to get your kill count as high as possible while supporting no one. I should have written 70% of the time rather than 60% of the time, as it really is that bad.
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  • digesthisicknessdigesthisickness Member Posts: 169 Bounty Hunter
    edited August 2013
    I have a level 60 cleric, and I can tell you why you won't see too many of those there. We're dead meat as soon as we click the K on our keyboard. I have a level 60 GWF, and she doesn't go in as her tab power is bugged in PvP. I have a level 60 CW who doesn't go in because PvP is below her apparently. As for GFs, not sure. I hear they're fantastic at it even when low-geared, but I don't see nearly as many of them as I do the other classes even in PvE. So, odds?
  • kidbskidbs Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 294
    edited August 2013
    wholyhandgrenade wrote: »
    Can't wait until TR's get nerfed just so I can randomly join without having at least 2 of them on my team 90% of the time. CW's are almost just as bad, but not quite as bad. I wish there were an option I could check that wouldn't put me on the same team as 2 CW's and 2 TR's. The CW's will fight off point, and the TR's will run around and go stealth and offer little assistance, meaning that a non CW or TR is simply going to get ganked the entire match by everyone else while the team loses cause although the team has so many kills its laughable nobody takes team points and the team can't hold anything that it does capture cause you don't hold playing off point and going around trying to get your kill count as high as possible while supporting no one. I should have written 70% of the time rather than 60% of the time, as it really is that bad.

    You obviously don't understand how CWs are supposed to play. We are a ranged class with no defense to speak of. This means we have to play off of the points in order to effectively do anything. It's a shame that the PvP maps are basically custom made for fighters but that's the way it is.

    Actually, I find it better for TRs and CWs to ninja other points as they aren't suited very well for defense. Good CWs and TRs can be extremely effective in pvp still.
  • wholyhandgrenadewholyhandgrenade Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    kidbs wrote: »
    You obviously don't understand how CWs are supposed to play. We are a ranged class with no defense to speak of. This means we have to play off of the points in order to effectively do anything. It's a shame that the PvP maps are basically custom made for fighters but that's the way it is.

    Actually, I find it better for TRs and CWs to ninja other points as they aren't suited very well for defense. Good CWs and TRs can be extremely effective in pvp still.

    you obviously are missing the entire point of this thread... it was about being tired of end up on teams with 2 CW's and 2 TR's just about every time I choose to randomly queue up
  • devlinnedevlinne Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    Well, in my OPINION.

    whats left?

    The GWF: Sent, regen build....You can take the ganking, giving you're crew the chance to cap points, while you keep 3-5 enemies busy...

    The GF: Tank......Shield up and stall. Umm, you're job is to TANK stuff, so.....once again giving you're crew time.

    Which brings us to the class you PROBABLY are complaining about, OR out the 3 left...suffers the most from the 2TR 2CW thingy u originally posted.

    The good old DC.

    If i were you and any other dc...i would start posting suggestions in my own class forums, in the suggestions threads, in this section, how and where DC can get BOOSTED. Cos out of pve......well...you know-___-

    For now, as a dc.....if you find yourself in a 2TR, 2CWset up. Pick you're favourite TR(you do know u can see allies in stealth....i HOPE) Stick to it like glue.....
    You're BAIT. Enemy will make a beeline for you, and the TR will demolish^^
    PITY,REGRET, AND MERCY are just EXCUSES for the strong not to kill the weak!
  • degraafinationdegraafination Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    Yeah, check out this sissy CW from Mindflayer's PVP tournament. He ranked 2nd in kills in both games.

    Action starts around 7mins, btw.

    Game 1: http://i.imgur.com/PIXTfFv.png
    Game 2: http://i.imgur.com/aqOVdj3.png
    PWP_zpsf8f711ce.jpg
    Join Essence of Aggression: PVP-ing Hard Since Beta!
  • wholyhandgrenadewholyhandgrenade Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    devlinne wrote: »
    Well, in my OPINION.

    whats left?

    The GWF: Sent, regen build....You can take the ganking, giving you're crew the chance to cap points, while you keep 3-5 enemies busy...

    The GF: Tank......Shield up and stall. Umm, you're job is to TANK stuff, so.....once again giving you're crew time.

    Which brings us to the class you PROBABLY are complaining about, OR out the 3 left...suffers the most from the 2TR 2CW thingy u originally posted.

    The good old DC.

    If i were you and any other dc...i would start posting suggestions in my own class forums, in the suggestions threads, in this section, how and where DC can get BOOSTED. Cos out of pve......well...you know-___-

    For now, as a dc.....if you find yourself in a 2TR, 2CWset up. Pick you're favourite TR(you do know u can see allies in stealth....i HOPE) Stick to it like glue.....
    You're BAIT. Enemy will make a beeline for you, and the TR will demolish^^

    before the TR's will even get to you and before you can stick on any TR or upon any character the CW's will have you in a held position while the TR will smoke screen or outright slaughter you before you can do anything... going against them sucks, having them on your team also sucks as they play off points most of the time and your team score lags cause of it, they run up tons of self-points, tons of kills, but not team points, so as a cleric you leave ASAP if you are smart and land on such a team as everyone will be making a beeline to the one that is on point and not stealthed
  • devlinnedevlinne Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    Ummm......ok....
    Then how about you hang back with the CW's?
    The TRs and CWs will rack up kill points by killing ppl right? So if you hang back with the CWs, I'm sure SOMEONE will take points...

    But seriously, start asking for them boosts....
    PITY,REGRET, AND MERCY are just EXCUSES for the strong not to kill the weak!
  • rapticorrapticor Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,078 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    60 GF.. (As well as TR, GWF and DC) However boycotting PvP due to the recent change of not being able to sell glory-bought items for gold. Enjoy the TRs and CWs!
  • wholyhandgrenadewholyhandgrenade Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    devlinne wrote: »
    Ummm......ok....
    Then how about you hang back with the CW's?
    The TRs and CWs will rack up kill points by killing ppl right? So if you hang back with the CWs, I'm sure SOMEONE will take points...

    But seriously, start asking for them boosts....

    I do okay in PvP, I just hate always landing on 2 CW and 2 TR composed teams practically every time I randomly queue up. Something is just wrong about that.
  • abombination247abombination247 Member Posts: 1,279 Bounty Hunter
    edited August 2013
    I thought it was 99% of the time but I just go with the flow.
  • irk2013irk2013 Member Posts: 241 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    wholyhandgrenade wrote: »
    Can't wait until TR's get nerfed just so I can randomly join without having at least 2 of them on my team 90% of the time. CW's are almost just as bad, but not quite as bad. I wish there were an option I could check that wouldn't put me on the same team as 2 CW's and 2 TR's. The CW's will fight off point, and the TR's will run around and go stealth and offer little assistance, meaning that a non CW or TR is simply going to get ganked the entire match by everyone else while the team loses cause although the team has so many kills its laughable nobody takes team points and the team can't hold anything that it does capture cause you don't hold playing off point and going around trying to get your kill count as high as possible while supporting no one. I should have written 70% of the time rather than 60% of the time, as it really is that bad.

    They not getting nerfed Cryptic renigged on the nerf to stealth and LA.. While LA is still a nerf it is only a 35% nerf and not as big as it was going to be. So in reality nothing changed because of all the QQing crybaby TR's. We all know the one with the most voices win and TR's are played by every baddie in this game because the class itself makes bads look good.
  • kidbskidbs Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 294
    edited August 2013
    wholyhandgrenade wrote: »
    I do okay in PvP, I just hate always landing on 2 CW and 2 TR composed teams practically every time I randomly queue up. Something is just wrong about that.

    Then join a guild and queue with them. Random queues are by nature.... random.
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