jewel of the north unbind other players

horizonxael

nitocris83 can you explain this thing to me why i can't have used some glitch? if so I want provisions and explanations, thank you

pitshade

Apparently in the last update or as a hotfix, the devs changed some artifacts so that they could no longer be unbound. The Echoes of Prophecy pieces and Forgehammer of Gond are the ones I'm aware of. EoP are infinitely claimable and the Forgehammer creates a secondary item which presumably wouldn't be removed when a character no longer has the artifact. The stealth fix was to stop an exploit in both cases so I doubt there will be any sort of compensation.

horizonxael

then I expect them to be removed from the auction

pitshade

The flow of new items has been shut off. It's possible the devs would take further action but I doubt it. They didn't even change the binding status of the previously unbound items.

plasticbat

horizonxael said:

then I expect them to be removed from the auction

People already spend unbind token on it. You have not spent anything (as you still have your unbind tokens).

reg1981

Your really asking why you can't take part in an exploit of the game? I'm not bothered in the least about the prophecy stuff but forgehammer sort of annoys me. I had it drop on a toon that will never use it and would love to move it.

plasticbat

reg1981 said:

Your really asking why you can't take part in an exploit of the game? I'm not bothered in the least about the prophecy stuff but forgehammer sort of annoys me. I had it drop on a toon that will never use it and would love to move it.

The only reason I can think of getting the unbind token myself is for the forgehammer. No, I don't have a toon who has 2 binded forgehammer at the moment. Once upon of time, one did but it was discarded already.

Just in case they consider the "exploit" is legit, I actually stashed a stack of 100 of each claimable artifact.

forumaccount

Thanks for posting this. I bought a unbound forgehammer before they become way more expensive again.

Also so far the forgehammer stays unbound when I equip it.

horizonxael

plasticbat said:

horizonxael said:

then I expect them to be removed from the auction

People already spend unbind token on it. You have not spent anything (as you still have your unbind tokens).

look at that or the tokens and i also tried with the green version wade pictures before commenting.

horizonxael

reg1981 said:

Your really asking why you can't take part in an exploit of the game? I'm not bothered in the least about the prophecy stuff but forgehammer sort of annoys me. I had it drop on a toon that will never use it and would love to move it.

ut are you smart, can you read? i'm not asking for anything i'm asking for help for those who used it

greywynd

They stopped any more from being added. Don't expect them to do more.

horizonxael

greywynd said:

They stopped any more from being added. Don't expect them to do more.

if you talk like this you are one of those who have benefited from it

greywynd

Yeah, me and my 5 unbinding tokens have unbound thousands of them and flooded the auction house with them.

Stop making accusations you can't back up.

armadeonx

You are upset that you missed a small window to exploit something and want everyone else to pay?

Something tells me that if you were the last to person to unbind one (before the fix), you would be equally upset that someone wanted to take your AD by doing what you've suggested above.

How about you just 'get over it'. And NO I didn't benefit from it either.

horizonxael

greywynd said:

Yeah, me and my 5 unbinding tokens have unbound thousands of them and flooded the auction house with them.

Stop making accusations you can't back up.

armadeonx said:

You are upset that you missed a small window to exploit something and want everyone else to pay?

Something tells me that if you were the last to person to unbind one (before the fix), you would be equally upset that someone wanted to take your AD by doing what you've suggested above.

How about you just 'get over it'. And NO I didn't benefit from it either.

here you are wrong i never abused this HAMSTER in my life on this game and stop talking nonsense

reg1981

horizonxael said:

reg1981 said:

Your really asking why you can't take part in an exploit of the game? I'm not bothered in the least about the prophecy stuff but forgehammer sort of annoys me. I had it drop on a toon that will never use it and would love to move it.

ut are you smart, can you read? i'm not asking for anything i'm asking for help for those who used it

@horizonxael

"nitocris83 can you explain this thing to me why i can't have used some glitch? if so I want provisions and explanations, thank you"

This is your exact quote, correct?

You asked directly why you can't have used it. And you want provisions and explainations. Do you know the definition of provisions?

Provision = the action of providing or supplying something for use.

You directly asked to be compensated. So yes I'm smart and can read... How bout you?

sagakaiyume

You do realize with all artifacts you can unbind, it works exactly the same as the forgehammer and jewel does. People were selling the Jewel of the north dirt cheap; less than the unbind value would be. The other two pieces of the set can't and never could be unbound, so its not completely negating paying for the milestone. I wouldn't have spent unbind tokens on it myself, that's for sure.

Many players unbound these items and kept them and would simply be punished (wasting 20+ unbind tokens) just for you to feel good about yourself?

The forgehammer I unbound one to give away as my tank had 2 (got a second from xmas event last year), didn't get to unbind the second so bought one when changes happened for 1.6m. To me, this would end up a waste of 20 unbind tokens and 1.6m as I already had a mythic forgehammer.

You can call it an exploit or abuse all you want, but anyone who unbinds Wyvern knives, charm, demo reach ect to move to other toons as debuff options are doing it for the exact same reason, to not need duplicates.

horizonxael

reg1981 said:

horizonxael said:

reg1981 said:

Your really asking why you can't take part in an exploit of the game? I'm not bothered in the least about the prophecy stuff but forgehammer sort of annoys me. I had it drop on a toon that will never use it and would love to move it.

ut are you smart, can you read? i'm not asking for anything i'm asking for help for those who used it

@horizonxael

"nitocris83 can you explain this thing to me why i can't have used some glitch? if so I want provisions and explanations, thank you"

This is your exact quote, correct?

You asked directly why you can't have used it. And you want provisions and explainations. Do you know the definition of provisions?

Provision = the action of providing or supplying something for use.

You directly asked to be compensated. So yes I'm smart and can read... How bout you?

because I saw that they put the jewel and I did a test and seeing that it was not possible I was wondering why everything was on sale here.

armadeonx

horizonxael said:

greywynd said:

Yeah, me and my 5 unbinding tokens have unbound thousands of them and flooded the auction house with them.

Stop making accusations you can't back up.

armadeonx said:

You are upset that you missed a small window to exploit something and want everyone else to pay?

Something tells me that if you were the last to person to unbind one (before the fix), you would be equally upset that someone wanted to take your AD by doing what you've suggested above.

How about you just 'get over it'. And NO I didn't benefit from it either.

here you are wrong i never abused this HAMSTER in my life on this game and stop talking nonsense

The core of your initial argument is that other people managed to do it but it didn't work when you tried it as it was after the fix came down.

Summary: you tried to do it and are mad because you couldn't. As such you want those that successfully unbound theirs to have that benefit removed.

Quotes from you:
"can you explain this thing to me why i can't have used some glitch? " i.e. others did so why can't you.
"look at that or the tokens and i also tried with the green version wade pictures before commenting." i.e. you had a proper try.
"then I expect them to be removed from the auction" referring to other people that did unbind them & that you resent them getting a benefit you missed out on.

So saying "i never abused this" is correct, but is misleading because you did actually try to and are now angry because you missed out.

horizonxael

sagakaiyume#0847 said:

You do realize with all artifacts you can unbind, it works exactly the same as the forgehammer and jewel does. People were selling the Jewel of the north dirt cheap; less than the unbind value would be. The other two pieces of the set can't and never could be unbound, so its not completely negating paying for the milestone. I wouldn't have spent unbind tokens on it myself, that's for sure.

Many players unbound these items and kept them and would simply be punished (wasting 20+ unbind tokens) just for you to feel good about yourself?

The forgehammer I unbound one to give away as my tank had 2 (got a second from xmas event last year), didn't get to unbind the second so bought one when changes happened for 1.6m. To me, this would end up a waste of 20 unbind tokens and 1.6m as I already had a mythic forgehammer.

You can call it an exploit or abuse all you want, but anyone who unbinds Wyvern knives, charm, demo reach ect to move to other toons as debuff options are doing it for the exact same reason, to not need duplicates.

did you admit abusing the glitch?

armadeonx

horizonxael said:

sagakaiyume#0847 said:

You do realize with all artifacts you can unbind, it works exactly the same as the forgehammer and jewel does. People were selling the Jewel of the north dirt cheap; less than the unbind value would be. The other two pieces of the set can't and never could be unbound, so its not completely negating paying for the milestone. I wouldn't have spent unbind tokens on it myself, that's for sure.

Many players unbound these items and kept them and would simply be punished (wasting 20+ unbind tokens) just for you to feel good about yourself?

The forgehammer I unbound one to give away as my tank had 2 (got a second from xmas event last year), didn't get to unbind the second so bought one when changes happened for 1.6m. To me, this would end up a waste of 20 unbind tokens and 1.6m as I already had a mythic forgehammer.

You can call it an exploit or abuse all you want, but anyone who unbinds Wyvern knives, charm, demo reach ect to move to other toons as debuff options are doing it for the exact same reason, to not need duplicates.

did you admit abusing the glitch?

You admitted to trying to abuse it.

horizonxael

armadeonx said:

horizonxael said:

sagakaiyume#0847 said:

You do realize with all artifacts you can unbind, it works exactly the same as the forgehammer and jewel does. People were selling the Jewel of the north dirt cheap; less than the unbind value would be. The other two pieces of the set can't and never could be unbound, so its not completely negating paying for the milestone. I wouldn't have spent unbind tokens on it myself, that's for sure.

Many players unbound these items and kept them and would simply be punished (wasting 20+ unbind tokens) just for you to feel good about yourself?

The forgehammer I unbound one to give away as my tank had 2 (got a second from xmas event last year), didn't get to unbind the second so bought one when changes happened for 1.6m. To me, this would end up a waste of 20 unbind tokens and 1.6m as I already had a mythic forgehammer.

You can call it an exploit or abuse all you want, but anyone who unbinds Wyvern knives, charm, demo reach ect to move to other toons as debuff options are doing it for the exact same reason, to not need duplicates.

did you admit abusing the glitch?

You admitted to trying to abuse it.

you insist on having your say ha ha ha

armadeonx

horizonxael said:

armadeonx said:

horizonxael said:

sagakaiyume#0847 said:

You do realize with all artifacts you can unbind, it works exactly the same as the forgehammer and jewel does. People were selling the Jewel of the north dirt cheap; less than the unbind value would be. The other two pieces of the set can't and never could be unbound, so its not completely negating paying for the milestone. I wouldn't have spent unbind tokens on it myself, that's for sure.

Many players unbound these items and kept them and would simply be punished (wasting 20+ unbind tokens) just for you to feel good about yourself?

The forgehammer I unbound one to give away as my tank had 2 (got a second from xmas event last year), didn't get to unbind the second so bought one when changes happened for 1.6m. To me, this would end up a waste of 20 unbind tokens and 1.6m as I already had a mythic forgehammer.

You can call it an exploit or abuse all you want, but anyone who unbinds Wyvern knives, charm, demo reach ect to move to other toons as debuff options are doing it for the exact same reason, to not need duplicates.

did you admit abusing the glitch?

You admitted to trying to abuse it.

you insist on having your say ha ha ha

Absolutely. I don't like hypocrisy.

horizonxael

anyway @nitocris83 did not give an explanation are you an admin? no then do not comment on nonsense things I am very clean.

greywynd

Clean only because you didn't get to do it.

tchefi

rockster

pitshade said:

Apparently in the last update or as a hotfix, the devs changed some artifacts so that they could no longer be unbound. The Echoes of Prophecy pieces and Forgehammer of Gond are the ones I'm aware of. EoP are infinitely claimable and the Forgehammer creates a secondary item which presumably wouldn't be removed when a character no longer has the artifact. The stealth fix was to stop an exploit in both cases so I doubt there will be any sort of compensation.

Does this also relate to class sigils? They're free and infinitely claimable, and classed as an artifact are now able to be unbound. People are putting them on the AH at green. Free AD.

armadeonx

rockster#6227 said:

pitshade said:

Apparently in the last update or as a hotfix, the devs changed some artifacts so that they could no longer be unbound. The Echoes of Prophecy pieces and Forgehammer of Gond are the ones I'm aware of. EoP are infinitely claimable and the Forgehammer creates a secondary item which presumably wouldn't be removed when a character no longer has the artifact. The stealth fix was to stop an exploit in both cases so I doubt there will be any sort of compensation.

Does this also relate to class sigils? They're free and infinitely claimable, and classed as an artifact are now able to be unbound. People are putting them on the AH at green. Free AD.

I don't know for sure but I'd guess that it'd apply to any artifact that can be claimed over & over again or like the Forgehammer, can be used once to make it usable then put somewhere else.

I imagine that if they haven't applied the restriction to sigils yet, they probably will.

plasticbat

Before the fix, all artifact can be unbound including reclaimable. That, for me, obviously an oversight. I spotted that possibility right the way and checked AH and saw all kind of reclaimable artifacts.

sagakaiyume

I personally don't see anything wrong with reclaimable artifacts being able to be unbound. They would have the overall lowest value and still cost unbind tokens, meaning its not simply free to sell. It'd come under use for only those who have nothing else to unbind or for those who haven't made the class yet.

plasticbat

sagakaiyume#0847 said:

I personally don't see anything wrong with reclaimable artifacts being able to be unbound. They would have the overall lowest value and still cost unbind tokens, meaning its not simply free to sell. It'd come under use for only those who have nothing else to unbind or for those who haven't made the class yet.

It is not about the class artifact but about "Jewel of the North" artifact (as the title of this thread), 1000 item level in mythic. Most cannot have it unless they bought the package in Zen store.