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Official Feedback Thread: Chult Rewards
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Hello everyone! On this preview build, we would like feedback on the new rewards! We have a lot of new gear and other rewards, so please let us know what you think!
You should be able to obtain these rewards organically through gameplay.
League's
Pilgrim
Pioneer
Huntsman
Primal
We have a new Artifact dropping in the new Tomb of the Ninegods dungeon:
Charm of the Serpent
Also have rings and unique gear that drop from the Hunts!
Some things to consider on your feedback:
How does the new gear feel? Are these rewards comparable to your current gear? Do you have a favorite?
Are the tooltips clear and easy to understand?
Etc, etc, etc. Let us know what you think!
Here’s how to give feedback:
Respond to this forum post.
Please mark what type it is: Bug or Feedback (Please only choose one)
Format:
Please use boldface text for the Type, and then type your feedback in the body of your post. If you are listing a bug please have this text in RED, and if you are posting an opinion or feedback please use CYAN.
Concise feedback is preferred and screenshots are appreciated!
Examples of Feedback
Bug:
Chultan Crafted weapons' power isn't working. I am not getting any stat increased when I get in combat.
Feedback:
No Bonus Sets on the new armor? Each piece of armor has it's own power? AW YISSSS.....
Access
You’ll need to be on the Preview Shard to test these features.You should be able to obtain these rewards organically through gameplay.
What's new?
There are 5 new gear sets:League's
Pilgrim
Pioneer
Huntsman
Primal
We have a new Artifact dropping in the new Tomb of the Ninegods dungeon:
Charm of the Serpent
Also have rings and unique gear that drop from the Hunts!
Feedback Desired
We want to hear any and all things you can tell us about the new Rewards, though we would like to focus on smaller changes that we can make in the time we have before launch!Some things to consider on your feedback:
How does the new gear feel? Are these rewards comparable to your current gear? Do you have a favorite?
Are the tooltips clear and easy to understand?
Etc, etc, etc. Let us know what you think!
Here’s how to give feedback:
Respond to this forum post.
Please mark what type it is: Bug or Feedback (Please only choose one)
Format:
Please use boldface text for the Type, and then type your feedback in the body of your post. If you are listing a bug please have this text in RED, and if you are posting an opinion or feedback please use CYAN.
Concise feedback is preferred and screenshots are appreciated!
<font color=cyan>This text will display in cyan.</font>
<font color=red>This text will display in red.</font>Examples of Feedback
Bug:
Chultan Crafted weapons' power isn't working. I am not getting any stat increased when I get in combat.
Feedback:
No Bonus Sets on the new armor? Each piece of armor has it's own power? AW YISSSS.....
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Comments
it may be difficult to reach the 15% maxTP treshold in one single blow for this classes.
Born of Black Wind: SW Level 80
That would have made for a better stat allocation, at least PvE-wise...
Getting together the "right" pieces of gear from that skirmish is just too much, given the many, many different variations you can get, if you even get a +4 at all...
And with the new armor penetration requirements, many players are going to need a new set for their companions.
With Loyal Avenger gear never being available on console, Illusionists Gambit have been the only place to get good companion gear, besides the hilariously priced Adorable gear from the New life legendary reward.
Be our savior, please put the +4 IG companion gear in the seal-trader
Feedback:
Is it possible to swap stats between boots and bracers in these sets? Or at least between Primal Raid Bracers (Power+Recovery+Defence) and Primal Raid Gaiters (Power+Crit+Defence). In current situation Hunter Rangers don't have a decent alternative to Relic/MW II raid bracers and this slight rework of stats might help a lot.
The skirmish itself is actually fun, the first 10 times maybe, but when you're in the hundreds without getting the gear you need for your build, it takes away all the fun, and becomes a chore...
Adding the gear to seal-trader, or giving a container where you choose which item you want would be great, or some sort of exchange-trader.
Could even throw the Underdark rings in there too, I have many (useless)+5 rings that will never see the light of day
Basically, having these rings be BoE would go a long ways to making this mod a success in the eyes of the players without having any long term gearing impact
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AW YISSSS is mostly relevant. I do like not having to worry about splitting up my set bonus(es) when I acquire one new piece of gear, but sometimes the past armor sets had a really good 1-piece bonus like Dusk with Wanderer's Vigor, which is now available on just one specific new piece. I did like that approach to set bonuses, where a single piece of a set gave you something extra, so players could more easily select the items with the stats they wanted, and the bonus would be available no matter what those pieces were.
Gearing will now be approached more as finding the pieces available to you with the stats you want and hoping the equipment bonuses are reasonably useful for your class, I think, rather than trying to balance your gear around maintaining a set bonus or multiple set bonuses.
(I'm just going to be annoyed about not having Wanderer's Vigor on all my alts anymore, really. I like that effect a lot.)
Bug?: Chultan Crafted weapons bind status
Are these meant to be BtCoP? Asterdahl had indicated that NW design was trying to move away from needing to level specific professions on a per-character basis in order to make your own gear, if using crafted gear. The tooltips for these seem contradictory if these are WAI. Also, I'd view the weapons as something desirable to craft for my neglected alts to get them a bit more oomph, whereas the character I've been maintaining sufficiently to take to Chult has no need of them.
Neverwinter Census 2017
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"At the start of combat, a random stat is increased by 2000 for 10 seconds???" Really? So... you are giving us the "Wand of Wonder" of artifact weapons? Does that include regeneration? Defense on my Control Wizard, where my DR still wont be enough to block any incoming damage? Or... even better, Defense on my GF... who's DR is so high I wont even notice a 2000 point increase? I cannot think of a more useless set bonus as it is written. Especially considering most of the characters adventuring in Chult with either have Relic or River District weapons already.
And for 10 seconds only at start of combat? That makes the set bonus completely useless in a boss fight.
As these look now, I would not waste my time, and resources making or leveling up a set of these when I can have a predictable set bonus on gear with equivalent stats.
Pandora's Misfits Guild Leader
The bonuses also need a lot of work. They need to stop making bonuses that are never going to be relevant (e.g. +5% defense on CW armor, or +10 defense for each percent of health missing etc.) IMO devs need to look at a bonus and ask themselves "Will this ever matter in a dungeon?" before putting it on armor. The thing I hate about these is that even if you get the ones that are relevant it means holding around six rings in your bag and you're either switching enchants or making another twelve enchants. They should've stuck with stat distributions like the SKT rings and given them bonuses against all the listed enemy types (IMO the "+5% against all of chult" is too narrow and makes them useless after a mod or two).
I feel that you are having a much more alt-friendly approach regarding to the rewards with the incoming module so I'll be glad to share my opinion about a few things.
The new artifact weapon set's bonus is too widespread, 2k random stat at the beginning of the combat could be "potentially" better if you bring 2 different sets, offensive (2k random stat between Power/Crit/Recovery) and a defensive one (2k random stat between Defense/Deflect/Life Steal). However, 2k isn't really enough. You could increase it to 4k if you follow the suggestion about offensive/defensive sets, then it would be a good option and please note that when I'm saying good option means that people would at least think about using it without it being overpowered, just a feasible option if you dislike the previous ones from River District or SoMI.
The artifact Charm of the Serpent. 600 Power, 1000 ArPen, 1000 Life Steal. The stats are ok except for the 600 power. It would be much more interesting to see 1000 Power, 1000 ArPen, 600 Life Steal instead. The damage is negligible and "it applies Neuroshock" what is that? Yes, I can test and find out what it is but what's the point in hiding it? Just add brackets i.e (Paralizes the enemy for X secs or applies a dot for X secs, etc). Also, the 25% chance to apply the effect is unnecessary because we already have a cooldown, with that chance I could use it several times in a row and it would fail to apply the effect. All in all, it is an artifact that it wouldn't be used as primary unless that Neuroshock is useful (Like reducing enemy's defenses which is even more important now due to the recent changes) so it could be used as secondary due to the stats but it is not going to be a sought-after item.
You added a lot of gear sets which is great but what we really need is companion equipment. See, one of the most important pieces of equipment in a character is the companion gear due to the bondings and the huge amount of stats granted by them. Previously, we had the loyal avenger gear available thanks to the gateway but it is gone now and the only way to get proper equipment for them is farming IG. It is not fun, my guild have 50 players online everyday and they really dislike to run that skirmish. They have to do it because it is the best way to get gear so maybe you have data that shows a lot of people farming it but that doesn't mean that they are enjoying it and that will eventually lead to their frustration. I'm adding this feedback here because you still have time to add companion gear to the crafting recipes / the new hunt system / trading for seals, etc. It could be that or let us get at least a +3 everytime we get gold. It could be something like bronze +1, with silver granting minimum +2 and Gold minimum a +3 piece. I'm the kind of player that likes to play with several characters and I just stopped doing it as soon as I was unable to get companion gear for them because I don't have any fun with IG.
Regarding to the ilv 500 gear, looks like most people is going to be using 2 of these pieces and 2 masterwork II as high-end gear. The bonuses are ok except the one where you gain 1% of your HP back. People using these sets are already very well geared, usually with enough life steal to heal themselves or even using stones of health. If I have 150k HP, I'll get healed for 1.5k everytime I hit an enemy for 22.5k when life steal would heal me back to full with a single blow? The whole set is BoA, that's highly appreciated.
I like that you are adding a lot of different gear with small benefits (hunt drops) it is part of the essence of D&D to find magical artifact with interesting names and effects. However, I would like to suggest to not repeat the same bonus in too many items even with small variations like power instead of defense e.g. Their uniqueness is gone by doing so. The rings are ok, not powerful but definitely not useless. They seem to be BoE, are they going to keep this status?
I like the whole module (despite that my main interest is to play a new class) because you are really trying to do things in a different way and that is very welcome.
new weapons are fine, just limit the random stat to either power/crit/recovery.
Okay, I like customization of stats. I like seeing new stat distributions on gear. Armor Pen/Crit is interesting, but at the same time, some stats are much better than others for specific classes--specifically power for clerics. When I look at the new gear and I see this:
http://i.imgur.com/6tzqxMi.png
I don't see any piece of gear there that is usable by any cleric. For a DPS hybrid, you don't want armor pen primary, but overall it isn't the worst. For a full buff cleric, you want power, so both are useless.
Moving on to helms
http://i.imgur.com/vpDMSnB.png
A DPS cleric could get behind the crit primary for the helm, and the added armor pen is likely enough to top off a build for the armor pen requirements in the new mod (for open world, as far as we have seen so far). No power again for buff clerics.
Moving to gloves
http://i.imgur.com/YoC5J7g.png
DPS will be using the restoration, since it has crit and raid doesn't. Not a huge deal, since it's the same stat distribution as relic, just higher stats. Finally one piece a buff cleric can use in the restoration piece.
Finally to boots
http://i.imgur.com/Nn3hmnJ.png
Perfect stat distribution for both DPS on the raid, and Buffs on the restoration. No complaints on this one.
Overall, I don't see this gear being used by many buff clerics, even if they aren't using voninblod on their gear, which I hope is not the desired choice by the design team.
Note that it is possible that they will mix-and-match some relic pieces in with the new primal, but as a full set, it is beyond horrible for buff clerics.
Signature [WIP] - tyvm John
Why not give an actual alternative to mod 8/9 rings?
Opening this pack gives the Chieftain Batiri Mask... not the fashion set indicated
(Runs off singing "Ooooh Eeee Ooooh Ahh Ahh... Ting Tang... Wallawalla Bing Bang...")
Pandora's Misfits Guild Leader
Thanks for the feedback so far, keep it coming! But I'm going to talk real quick on companion gear, Legendary Rings, and gear stats.
First off, with companion gear, I know the Illusionist's Gambit had some rewards concerns/complaints, and we've done a pass on it which still didn't hit the mark on what y'all were looking for. So, for M12, we have done yet another balance pass on the Skirmish rewards. I personally feel that this new balance will be a little more to your liking when it comes to getting companion gear. Since we still want the Skirmish to be the current place to go for companion gear, we won't be adding it to the seal stores this time around.
As for the Legendary rings, we've been talking about them in-house and comparing them to the Underdark rings, so what you see currently on preview may change since they are still in review.
Last, gear stats. These are also in review. What I mean is, I've read your feedback so far and I'm looking at the gear right now and stroking my chin in contemplation. Thanks for the feedback on this so far - I'll be taking your feedback and discussing it with the rest of the team.
Once again, thanks for the feedback! Hope y'all are enjoying Chult!
Pandora's Misfits Guild Leader
EDIT -- I just noticed how useless my comment is. I didn't say what item that is. That item is one of the Hunt reward items. I believe it is the first one in the collections menu in the Hunts section. I can look it up later. Sorry for the stupidity.
Signature [WIP] - tyvm John
If you were to make the gear that are used by very, very few companions ( i.e. Pact blades & Grimoires) drop far less than rings, necks, belts & sword-knots to more correctly adapt drop-rate to what the majority of companions actually can use/are used by players.
Or even better, some sort of currency, that would mean that after a certain amount of runs without getting what you need,you can at least exchange those tokens/seals whatevers for the gear you so dearly desire.
That way, there is at least a guarantee of some light at the end of the tunnel...
Still, mod 12 is looking ridiculously fun, and I for one, can't wait until it drops on console
Great work, and thanks for the updates, those are very appreciated by all players.
About the m12 weapons effect: At start of combat, a random stat is increased by 2000 points, for 10 seconds.
- This bonus is weird and ... a little small. Imagine that, you enter in combat and your weapons give you 2k Regeneration or 2k defense and you are a SW or CW. Looks awful !!!!!!! I could suggest this:
1 - Every 10 seconds in combat, a random stat is increased by 500. Stack up to 6 times.
OR
2 - Every 10 seconds in combat, a random stat is increased by 1000. Stack up to 3 times.
I think these bonus above will help a little in long boss battles, and I believe that bonuses isn't better or worse than m10, m11 and MW weapons.
About the Charm of the Serpent, the bonuses are OK, but I think all players will love a 4th additional stat to this artifact, just like Eye of the Giant and Tome of Ascendance, adding +600 of something like deflect.
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It's good enough for what it's meant to do.
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From what I have seen so far... The new armors look great. They certainly fit into the style of the module setting. You can tell a lot of time went into the details. The SW "Pilgrim / Pioneer / League" armor I think is my favorite so far.
Pandora's Misfits Guild Leader
That would leave the Greater Ostorians as the only BoE legendary ring type, which would be rather odd.