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psistarprimepsistarprime Member Posts: 86 Arc User
edited September 2015 in General Discussion (PC)
So..... I received an interesting PM in PE today.

[Tell] From [Character name@handle]: Visit this site and claim your StrongHolds Free Legendary Mount Rewards at link removed

Of course the site has the official SH preview movie and a copy of Strumslinger's announcement concerning SH Siege, followed by a choice of free mounts including the Flail Snail and Tenser's. "All" you have to do is input your registered email account, password and @handle. This is almost certainly a method to hack and steal accounts.
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  • regenerderegenerde Member Posts: 3,048 Arc User
    edited September 2015
    Would you hand your wallet to anyone, that just asks for it?
    No?
    There you go. ;)

    Btw. friends requests, goldseller spam and even spam mails have increased massively, would be nice if some CM would poke the Devs and ask for some help...
    I do believe in killing the messenger...
    Want to know why?
    Because it sends a message!
  • psistarprimepsistarprime Member Posts: 86 Arc User
    edited September 2015
    They keep sending this. [Tell] From [Character name@handle]: Visit this site and claim your StrongHolds Free Legendary Mount Rewards at link removed

    I reported both as spam. I would hope no one would fall for this, but I know better. A newer more trusting guild member just lost his account to what sounds like this scam yesterday. It would be nice to see Strum put out an official warning, since there are people desperate and hopeful enough to fall for this stuff.
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  • thefabricantthefabricant Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 5,248 Arc User
    edited September 2015
    nothing posted on weebly looks official...lol. Also, the devs don't whisper stuff to players, they announce it loudly on the forums and in game in big orange messages....for example, "we are streaming on twitch" or "xlx has acquired yyy from zzz lockbox"
  • xgrandz02xgrandz02 Member Posts: 702 Arc User
    Add an option to Auto decline friend invites!
    it's really annoying, i get constantly friends inviting from such sellers.

    most annoying is when i'm fighting on pvp -.-

    <::::::[]==0 GwF 0==[]::::::> ● Still waiting for the promised Improvement ●
  • ironzerg79ironzerg79 Member, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 4,942 Arc User
    Use common sense. Why would Cryptic being giving away free random mounts to people?

    If it's too good to be true, it obviously is. This trick has been around for decades. Don't ever give ANYONE your account information. And certainly not to another site. The only places you'll ever log into Neverwinter is via the ARC homepage (or the forums) and the actual game client. You'll never, ever, ever need to input or give your account information to anyone else. Ever.

    Also, please don't post the actual links on the forum. While you might think it's good as a warning, it actually drives more traffic to those websites, and increases the risk that someone will mistakenly fall victim to the scam.

    It's simple enough to say "Don't give out your login information to anyone". We don't need a thread for every scam, or a list of every scammer or website.
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  • kreatyvekreatyve Member, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 10,545 Community Moderator
    Also, even these people are bad, please do not post the character names and @handles of those people as this violates our rules about naming and shaming. Sorry.
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  • cesukecesuke Member Posts: 311 Arc User
    LOL Well u may never giv password to anyone...
  • psistarprimepsistarprime Member Posts: 86 Arc User
    Sorry to have crossed over the forum rules line, guys, I just was reacting on a gut level at 4;30 am and wanted you guys to be aware of this group's actions. This type of scam is even more damaging, in my opinion, than the AD sellers. There are teens and otherwise innocent individuals who play this game who might not recognize the scam for what it is. Like I said, one of my guildmates seems to have done so already. He is a good kid, but just lacked the worldly experience to question the bright shinny reward. I believe that as a community we have a responsibility to look out for one another. It didn't seem like enough to "report spam" and hope the problem gets addressed.
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  • ambisinisterrambisinisterr Member, Neverwinter Moderator Posts: 10,462 Community Moderator
    This type of behavior exists in every MMO and has for decades. Unfortunately it is a lesson we all learn at one point or another and while companies do what they can to prevent it the ultimate solution is for people to use common sense and caution.

    I played a game where one of the most common scams was "type your password, look it gets filtered by the censor. See: *******" and of course it didn't.
    Eventually the company ended up putting both forwards and backwards incarnations of passwords on to the filter but then of course those people just find new ways to trick the young, naiive and gullible into compromising their account security.

    This topic actually fostered a nostalgia trip between my brother and me yesterday. The simplest recourse is to make sure people know that they should ALWAYS question when they are asked for account information. If they jump the gun due to greed or whatever other factor then unfortunately that falls on them regardless of the excuse.

    It is proven that telling people not to do something often has the adverse effect for whatever reason. Whether you call it reverse psychology, curiosity or sticking it to the man people tend to see " don't do ____" and it encourages them to do it even if they were not originally interested or planning to do so. Even if this wasn't the case though it would quickly become a massive and cumbersome list when it is as simple as:

    Do not use your PWE username and password anywhere besides Official PWE Websites.
  • regenerderegenerde Member Posts: 3,048 Arc User
    You know what would really help?
    Having some real GMs in the game...
    I do believe in killing the messenger...
    Want to know why?
    Because it sends a message!
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  • yawulfyawulf Member Posts: 139 Arc User
    having real GMs alone is honestly not going to help,i mean what sad and pathetic dude wod sit behind a pc for 8hrs and just be banning bots who can reproduce faster than gremlins and switch instances it seems it would help but it wont solve anything. Its like dispatching cops on the streets crime would fall in the 1st 1 or 2 weeks then the criminals learn the patrol movements and adjust accordingly. What would actually help is reducing the refinement grind, cost of coalwards ,cubes etc and generally making their offers unattractive simple as that
  • grogthemagnifgrogthemagnif Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,651 Arc User
    If it SOUNDS too good to be true, it IS too good to be true.
  • regenerderegenerde Member Posts: 3,048 Arc User
    edited September 2015
    Real GMs is the only thing, that is going to help, anything automated will be bypassed by botters at some point. We have seen that happen often enough in the past.

    A GM also doesn't just bann one bot after the other, a GM could get the whole traffic from the botters IP address banned/blocked, forcing the botters to get a new IP every time, they send a bot into PE to spam.

    And botters couldn't risc it anymore, to have farm and spam bots running from the same IP... since all of them would be removed from the server within a single moment.

    This isn't just about banning only the spam bots on the spot, but GMs can also go after the farm bots, the AD seller and buyer accounts too, and that will hurt the botters really.

    Besides, even police officers do more then just walk the street, i think you are confusing real police officers with security personal/watchmen, that only patrol around objects/places, and call the police if something happens.
    I do believe in killing the messenger...
    Want to know why?
    Because it sends a message!
  • banaancbanaanc Member Posts: 472 Arc User
    another case of "idiots having idiotic problems" anybody who falls for this deserves it, scammer leaves with your account and you leave with experience

  • ogariousogarious Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 740 Arc User
    edited September 2015
    banaanc said:

    another case of "idiots having idiotic problems" anybody who falls for this deserves it, scammer leaves with your account and you leave with experience

    You have to be a hoot at parties.

    *Friend falls and breaks her ankle*

    YOU DESERVED THAT, CALL THE AMBULANCE YOURSELF, R-TARD!

    Sorry, but people like the poster above really get to me. Maybe if we spent a bit more time looking out for others, they would have a bit more time to look out for us as well. World's a better place and all that.

    Anyways, yeah. Never give out your info, change your password every 30 to 45 days, write the info down on paper instead of putting it "in the cloud" Cause people have to have a way to steal stuff up there.
  • yawulfyawulf Member Posts: 139 Arc User
    regenerde said:

    Real GMs is the only thing, that is going to help, anything automated will be bypassed by botters at some point. We have seen that happen often enough in the past.

    A GM also doesn't just bann one bot after the other, a GM could get the whole traffic from the botters IP address banned/blocked, forcing the botters to get a new IP every time, they send a bot into PE to spam.

    And botters couldn't risc it anymore, to have farm and spam bots running from the same IP... since all of them would be removed from the server within a single moment.

    This isn't just about banning only the spam bots on the spot, but GMs can also go after the farm bots, the AD seller and buyer accounts too, and that will hurt the botters really.

    Besides, even police officers do more then just walk the street, i think you are confusing real police officers with security personal/watchmen, that only patrol around objects/places, and call the police if something happens.

    I live in Africa tnx to vpn i was able to play blade and soul on Chinese server with a Chinese IP and also watch netflix with US IP takes aba a minute to to cycle tru the country u like. botting is a serious business u think they can find a way around blocking IP in minutes and they r automated so yea goodluck getting rid of them
  • banaancbanaanc Member Posts: 472 Arc User
    ogarious said:

    banaanc said:

    another case of "idiots having idiotic problems" anybody who falls for this deserves it, scammer leaves with your account and you leave with experience

    You have to be a hoot at parties.

    *Friend falls and breaks her ankle*

    YOU DESERVED THAT, CALL THE AMBULANCE YOURSELF, R-TARD!
    i bet you are supporter of those safety warnings everywhere, you know the "dont try to dry a cat in microwave" "dont stick your hands in fast rotating objects" etc. its natural selection

  • regenerderegenerde Member Posts: 3,048 Arc User
    edited September 2015
    As i said, this is not just about a single bot in PE, this is about the botters in Neverdeath Graveyard and anywhere else, and this is also about the seller and buyer accounts getting banned too.

    You can hide your real IP as good as you want, when your account gets banned, it doesn't matter anymore what IP it was running under.

    And sure, they can make new accounts, but those have to get to level 60 again to provide the botters with stacks of enchantments to sell for AD, and to replace a farm character will cost them more time then just a few minutes.

    Now imagine that "sad and pathetic dude" coming down on those farming bots every day like the personated wrath of the good lord himself.
    Those botters will have a hard time getting their millions together, when they have to restart new accounts on a daily basis.
    Or when their banking accounts with millions of AD in it get banned too... add some players banned for buying AD from them to the mix, and we might at least make it a lot harder for the botters to sell their AD for real money.

    Besides it's not just that, in other games with a real GM support, GMs do really support the players to get things sorted out or restored... and this would make it harder for scammers too.

    Not sure, why that would be so bad...
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    I do believe in killing the messenger...
    Want to know why?
    Because it sends a message!
  • yawulfyawulf Member Posts: 139 Arc User
    regenerde said:

    As i said, this is not just about a single bot in PE, this is about the botters in Neverdeath Graveyard and anywhere else, and this is also about the seller and buyer accounts getting banned too.

    You can hide your real IP as good as you want, when your account gets banned, it doesn't matter anymore what IP it was running under.

    And sure, they can make new accounts, but those have to get to level 60 again to provide the botters with stacks of enchantments to sell for AD, and to replace a farm character will cost them more time then just a few minutes.

    Now imagine that "sad and pathetic dude" coming down on those farming bots every day like the personated wrath of the good lord himself.
    Those botters will have a hard time getting their millions together, when they have to restart new accounts on a daily basis.
    Or when their banking accounts with millions of AD in it get banned too... add some players banned for buying AD from them to the mix, and we might at least make it a lot harder for the botters to sell their AD for real money.

    Besides it's not just that, in other games with a real GM support, GMs do really support the players to get things sorted out or restored... and this would make it harder for scammers too.

    Not sure, why that would be so bad...

    u really have no idea how futile their efforts wod be ?? like i said first 1 or 2 weeks u would score some victory then the bots adopt and don't forget the the GMs cant keep up with the amount of bots being created just take a trip to NWO and see the sophistication of bot programs around and u wod understand
  • regenerderegenerde Member Posts: 3,048 Arc User
    edited September 2015
    Looks like you really have some personal issues with GMs... but that's still no reason to insult those people behind that screen, doing only their work.
    I don't work as GM, i never have and probably never will... but i can still respect those people and their work.
    Afterall it's just a job like many others out there.

    In the end, GMs are still the only viable option to fight botters.
    I do believe in killing the messenger...
    Want to know why?
    Because it sends a message!
  • yawulfyawulf Member Posts: 139 Arc User
    regenerde said:

    Looks like you really have some personal issues with GMs... but that's still no reason to insult those people behind that screen, doing only their work.
    I don't work as GM, i never have and probably never will... but i can still respect those people and their work.
    Afterall it's just a job like many others out there.

    In the end, GMs are still the only viable option to fight botters.

    what insult ?? and what personal issues ?? i am stating the truth GMs wod have worked 10 or 15 yrs ago but certainly not now, there are so many easily accessible tools to make their efforts futile it's as simple as that.

  • regenerderegenerde Member Posts: 3,048 Arc User
    edited September 2015
    yawulf said:

    regenerde said:

    Looks like you really have some personal issues with GMs... but that's still no reason to insult those people behind that screen, doing only their work.
    I don't work as GM, i never have and probably never will... but i can still respect those people and their work.
    Afterall it's just a job like many others out there.

    In the end, GMs are still the only viable option to fight botters.

    what insult ?? and what personal issues ?? i am stating the truth GMs wod have worked 10 or 15 yrs ago but certainly not now, there are so many easily accessible tools to make their efforts futile it's as simple as that.
    "... i mean what sad and pathetic dude wod sit behind a pc for 8hrs..."
    your words, not mine.

    And what tools would that be?

    The botters in NWO are not hiding in game, they're out in the open for everyone to see.

    The same goes for their transactions, they're using the Auction House for moving the AD from the seller to the buyer account. Some of them are even advertising, that they will cover the auction house fee for the buyer...

    These are just the facts. And real GMs would make a difference, since they are not only there for banning and removing botters, but also to help and support the regular players.

    Two birds, one stone.
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    I do believe in killing the messenger...
    Want to know why?
    Because it sends a message!
  • sorce#8115 sorce Member Posts: 1,009 Arc User
    I'm sorry, it's 2015. In what strange parallel dimension do you EVER give out your username and password?
  • sasagerusasageru Member Posts: 269 Arc User
    edited September 2015
    ..eh few rules to remember

    1. If someone you don't know PM's or mails you a link in game just don't go to it.
    2. If you do go to it, check the url. Is it arc? or playneverwinter.com? Nope? Then it's not a direct promotion.
    3. If it asks for more than just your character or handle details? Be wary.
    4. Asks for password? - Total scam

    It's sad that people still fall for these sorts of scams :/ I don't know if its lack of education or just greed-frenzy that makes people continually fall into these traps.

    People need to remember, you don't get anything in this life for free, theres always a catch and when someone offers you great riches, you should be thinking: whats the angle? why are they doing this and what do they need from me? Anytime anyone or anything asks you for your password or to know specifically which email address is linked to your @handle you should be suspicious.
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