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  • sargeriassargerias Posts: 81

    A refund seems strange. But i would say refund if you also reset your account. Because all the stuff you got aside from Assassin. The exp boost, pages, Loot enhancer, etc.....

    I think suddenly very few would want a refund of all if Account gets reset cause they used and enjoyed all the other stuff.

  • I want to know one thing: as everyone knows the game offers 5 playable free classes with many builds which are totally viable. Why without playing these you people chose to spend hundreds of dollars for a 6th paywall class? And no "supporting the game" isn't a valid answer. Choosing to spend hundreds of dollars without playing the game enough isn't supporting anything, at best it would be enabling devs to turn this into a moneysink mobile game which I'm glad they didn't want to take that direction, at least not yet.


    Refunding would be absurd. However they can offer some free online courses about "how to not waste your money without taking a second to think about it" would be nice for some.

  • The perks to being a "whale" , should be exclusive sh*t, if the Dmir Assassin had stayed behind a gambling wall, I never would have bat an eye. The truth is, the ONLY reason we dropped the cash we did was for the Dmir Assassin class. When it was switched to free... of course we are not happy. It is easy for free 2 play players to say whatever they want, I am not knocking anyone's opinion. With that being said, I and many who have dm me on discord seem to be of the conclusion, without compensation, we just won't spend another dime. You need people to waste "lots" of money on free to play games , in order for it to stay free for cheap folks.... everyone wins. It is simple good business. In the end, whatever decision is made, will be noted. I have expressed my opinion, I am leaving it in the hands of the dev gods. I have spent a lot of money on a lot of games over the years, either for convivence, to win, something exclusive, or content. All these years, Ive never felt like something I put money towards was devalued in the way this was. I would be happy if it was put back behind a gambling paywall, or compensation happened.

  • You do need people spending money in F2P games yes but you can't lock something major as a playable class behind a paywall, it's not cosmetic, that's why it's free now. Whatever you spend money on F2P games you basically buy time or cosmetics, you offer money for your time and they take it. You can advance faster if you still play a lot or you can chill and not grind hard while still keeping up with people because you bought stuff etc. When they sell a class/item/ability it's not F2P anymore, it's P2W chinese rpg moneysink after that point. However greedy WoC can be sometimes, I don't think they would wanna pair their game/name with those trash by using that disgusting model. Oh and you'd end up with a very cancer community playing the game if that happens because every logical player who wants a fair game would jump ship and server would become a 1000 player whale porn measuring their wallets and slapping eachother with em.


    Dimir Assasin is still not easy to get. I'm not even sure if doing daily battlepass quests everyday will even be enough to reach level 50 since XP gain is too low. If you miss a week you probably need to buy 2500 Zen premium for extra levels. I'm still holding my money back on premium to see if I will reach level 50 on time or I will have to buy 2500 one before pass ends. No matter what, that class NEEDS TO BE purchasable with gold sometime later anyway and a lot cheaper than its current out of stock gold price. This is just because they went to wrong direction at the start, they should never introduce any class in boosters anyway in the future. It should just be time or cosmetic. They can sell powerpuff girls skin for dread zombies for all I care, people will spend money on them and keep the game up.

  • detherockydetherocky Posts: 5

    So any news about this?

  • almightybob2almightybob2 Posts: 13

    Just my 2 cents, not that it matters but...


    No, there should def not be a full refund and not even a full zen refund - that's just not how these things work and it'd likely create more problems than it solves.

    Yes, there should be at least partial compensation as a gesture of good faith due to devs doing a great thing and listening to the community but still creating feelbads for ppl who had already spent money


    Some of the analogies I've seen have been laughably bad tho... (from both sides)

    I'm staying vague as I just rly don't want drama and my perspective is pretty neutral anyway.

  • This was never about the money, it was about a devalued product , I get when something is old... but within 24hours? No...Compensation within game is 100% viable.

  • mboom#3113 mboom Posts: 12

    The game is a Service. There are no products or goods. Devaluation is your perception.

    That being said good luck either way.

  • naekuhnaekuh Posts: 10
    edited April 2021

    Wow at least some of u guys actually got the assasin pack.

    What about the people that dumped just as much as you guys did and didn't get it? Do they not deserve a compensation because the holy gacha failed to deliver?

    Im sorry but i am with the majority of these people.

    You PAID for BETA. Its not the first time its been done like this either. You guys also got other stuff like the other items including the bloodsoaked alter and other items which you could of sold at the broker for 400K+ gold, essentially giving u a head start. Infact that is where all your money went to, to get a head start, aka pay to progress nonsense dev's put in to justify Pay 2 Win.

    So no, if the DEV's do any form of compensation, then it should be applied to EVERYONE who bought a pack regardless of getting the assasin unlock or not. Of many offer the compensation in raw amount of how much Zen you bought. Otherwise it won't be fair in any grounds.

    Hence why even tho i also have 200 dollars invested in this game, i will not ask for any form of compensation, because i paid to progress, (lulz).

  • swillswazz#3383 swillswazz Posts: 20
    edited April 2021

    It's been over a week, and nothing is done. I paid about $300 because the Devs also lied to me about how to unlock the Dimir Assassin class. What did we get out of the Dimir packs then? Artifact/Spell/Trait unlocks are worth gold. All we got is gold. However, there are many players that exploited a Greenwarden (mythic card) shop bug (MANY OF THESE PLAYERS ARE SPONSORED STREAMERS...) and now have MILLIONS OF GOLD. Yes, you heard me, hundreds of millions of gold. They never have to worry about gold again. All the Artifact/Spell/Trait unlock from the class packs? Well legit players had to sell those to make gold, so exploiters can just buy them from the Consignment Broker for 400k. Not bad considering they have infinite gold. The Devs allowed them to keep this broken economy, and even stream the bug live...

    Go watch a Magic Legends streamer and they probably have millions of gold from that bug, and they didn't spend a cent on the game. But hey, as long as the brand gets recognized, I don't think MTG:L cares. That's my issue. They are catering to the cheaters lol.


    TLDR; I shouldn't have tried to pay to outrace the exploiters, cause I lost. *planeswalks out*

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  • I understand people are waiting, but it was just Easter Weekend. So a long weekend, it's going to take time. I for one, would also like some sort of compensation. I'm not saying a Full Refund, as that's ridiculous, but a partial refund of Zen. Maybe they can give us the next class for free as compensation? Hey, just thinking out loud, and honestly. Lots of mixed feelings. I trust Arc to do what's in the best interest of the player base. Sometimes that's at a loss.

  • update?

  • almightybob2almightybob2 Posts: 13

    Just my 2 cents, not that it matters but...


    No, there should def not be a full refund and not even a full zen refund - that's just not how these things work and it'd likely create more problems than it solves.

    Yes, there should be at least partial compensation as a gesture of good faith due to devs doing a great thing and listening to the community but still creating feelbads for ppl who had already spent money.


    Some of the analogies I've seen have been laughably bad tho... (from both sides)

    I'm staying vague as I just rly don't want drama and my perspective is pretty neutral anyway.

  • noviscki#4647 noviscki Posts: 29
    edited April 2021

    To the post, i agree with you, i feel damaged not because other people have it, i'm glad. But just by the time the prize was "the only way to get the class" it motivated me to purchase yes, even if you got yoru dimir or not. That's the REASON you purchase a lootbox. The Reason you spent money, i don't care about that, i of course would use that same money BUT i would use other ways, more efficiently, I think it's fair to us who bought paccks (only for packs purchases of PACKS applicable, i know they must have a way to track that info) to get a % (only a %) of the ZEN back. Not the money, but the Zen, that wen't to waste.

    I'm pretty sure it's unanimous that we're feeling damaged. We're talking about real life money into a gamble. People said "Buy the packs, sell then and buy the class' but tell me, how do you find anyone selling the class? i'm playing for 14 days and didn't found ANY in Broker.


    And answering the Staff Answer, i'm pretty sure that people who got the Dimir are LESS DAMAGED than those who didn't. At least they can play the class, they might sell the other they'll get and get some gold from it.

  • It's been 3 weeks or so, Still no response i't safe to say they don't give a fck.

    Well i don't give a fck abaut the game anymore, I think it already destroyed itself.

    Good luck to the people still playing this pile of shit

    I have a good tip spend 30$ on Last Epoch, Or diablo 2 or 3.

    You will alot more fun and actually something worth your time and money.

    Last time i play a Cryptic or PWI game.

  • biplexbiplex Posts: 47

    if you paid by CC you should request refund from your bank.

  • kingjeldorankingjeldoran Posts: 23

    If you get a refund you should have your account reset back to lvl 1. :)

  • I think getting it a second time is more then enough. you can easily sell it for 10 mil and on top of that, can manipulate the market to make billions in only 1 hour. a refund seems a little over kill for that. if anything, you should get a refund of like 5k zen but then would have to forfeit the unlock in battle pass. the class purchase need to be addressed 1st since that purchase has no gain whatsoever now. if you bought them all, you lost out on 5500 zen.

  • modda#2065 modda Posts: 3

    Yea but if he does a chargeback he will prob be banned

  • biplexbiplex Posts: 47

    If enough players would request chargeback, then yes, someone would be banned, and it would be cryptic banned from VISA... players are just a bunch of idiots who let companies like cryptic rip them off and keep playing

  • If you spent money on the beta version of a f2p game, then you should either feel like you got what you paid for, or you should feel dumb. If you want to feel cheated, feel like you cheated yourself by not thinking it through, first.

    Nope, no refund should be required. If you spent money on a beta, then you got what you paid for.

    I am in $30 for Premium Legendary Battlepass and that's it. If any of that changes to free, I have no room to complain because I thought it through and recognized the inherent risk. I am getting exactly what I paid for.

    Take some responsibility for your actions. Ignorance is not an excuse.

  • Oh, and if you need a game to make you feel empowered and valuable you have much bigger problems than losing a few hundred dollars on a beta. Spend that money on a therapist. They're typically around $100/hr. How much did you spend on this game already? Man, you could've made some major breakthroughs and be on your way to living your best life instead of wallowing in your own self-pity trying to exercise some form of non-existent entitlement because you made a bad decision.

  • evilsoup#0655 evilsoup Posts: 274
    edited April 2021

    I can see why you pay $100 an hour for a therapist. your people skills need work. they cant just ignore the complaints. those of us that spend money in the game are a more valuable client then people like you who will spend $30 every 90 days if you don't leave before that. if it was not for our feedback on the roll for the assassin class, it would not be in battle pass. yes we bought the classes at a price we agreed for but that was without the knowledge of there being a free giveaway or them being 1k less zen each a week later. this is a complaint that has been on many discussions and has been submitted many times to devs. the devs should be open to hearing any feedback on this matter whether your for the refund or not but, as you have not invested in this, you have no say in the matter.

  • No one who spent money on this beta is entitled to any kind of restitution for their own bad decision. They need to own up to it and take responsibility for their own actions. However, it would be in the company's best interest not to alienate the folks that feel they are entitled to something.

    I will not apologize for speaking the honest truth even though it may come across as hurtful. It hurts because it's true. You feel you made a bad decision and you don't feel you should have to live with it. I get it. But, that doesn't entitle you to anything. If you get anything back it's because the company did it out of their own good will, not because you are owed. There is a difference.

  • I do not feel I made a bad decision. I feel like a refund for zen should be in place for the free class that I am owed. again this does not apply to you so your opinion is useless and your just looking to see everyone who spent money on this game get cheated because it gives you some satisfaction thinking that your useless opinion alone on every trend will make the devs listen to you. if you need me to tell you this, then I would save that $100 a month and just keep posting here every now and again if I were you.

  • Honestly I could care less about the money at this point. I still think that was really messed up ,to punk out, on switching the exclusive item behind a LEGIT paywall to a "free" item. In the end, it was MY choice to spend money on this game. Regardless of how I feel, I would have had more respect for a company that told me to go pound salt ,rather than lead us on, and then leave it in limbo.. Anyways, I still have well wishes for MTG:Legends, but I have already moved onto other games, and eyeing some great upcoming releases. As a businessman, I don't blame you one bit for taking the money, it might be all this game every makes... but I would have found it much respectable to tell us al to get f*cked, than leave it in limbo.

    Your favorite narcissist,

    Cryosalt

    P.S. I am tapping out of this conversation, and my download just finished!! peace <3

  • scutipuff#2559 scutipuff Posts: 81
    edited April 2021

    Cheers! This is what I mean. Peace out, Cryosalt. Take note, Evilsoup. Cryo is being an adult instead of a whiny self-entitled baby. I don't need your approval to be right. Take your self-entitlement somewhere else and grow up.

    I'm gonna do you all a favor and tap out, too.

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