Nova Pack 2.0? re: new orbs

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  • minml
    minml Posts: 66 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    hits4hire wrote: »
    3) for goodness sakes, in CN version it's easier to make a decent toon than it is on private server and they are doing great economically speaking

    Thanks to us. And all the other non CN servers of the game under PWE.
  • jhkx123
    jhkx123 Posts: 80 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    hits4hire wrote: »
    yes, i'm aware of all these points, but:

    1) just because i have a join date of last year doesn't mean i've been playing for just a year
    2) CN still has a ton of content not implemented into our version yet that we will probably get
    3) for goodness sakes, in CN version it's easier to make a decent toon than it is on private server and they are doing great economically speaking

    CN has a bigger population and they balance out the playerbase with providing free things to players that are pay to get here.. like flare gem cards are given out for free.. So not a valid point because they keep the balance of csers and noncsers well..
  • Rothj - Eyrda
    Rothj - Eyrda Posts: 474 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Yeah but not everyone has "Completely Max" as their goal..
    most people's goal is around lv80-90 mast/resists.. which are almost achievable with the FREE Anniversary orbs alone for anybody that farmed checkings before.. lol

    Stuff that people were planning to get in a couple months.. they just got it handed to them in a week.. and once they reach a point where they feel ok with it.. they'll go play their "maxed" toons a little.. get bored of same old pvping with nothing else to get.. and quit.. for a non boring game with new stuff to farm and upgrade and achieve..

    This is your assumption but you don't have anything to back this up. I have a char that is beyond what you listed as your requirements. I just set higher goals and I actually feel comfortable with the game atm and am having fun with it. I would like to get level 4 wings. Do I think I'll get them in the near future? No, but it's a nice thing I can aim for long term. After that I still need 80 rune energy, a purple pet, gold gear, level 90 resists, better id's, more accessories, champ shoulder, gloops, etc.... there is a lot to do in fw.

    I cs. Not hardcore, but I cs enough that it's a noticeable help. I farm a lot also. In current game state I would be comfortable not csing at all because my char is good and there is still a lot of things to do and ways to progress. On the private server people didn't quit cause they suddenly got maxed, they found things to do to make their char better. It wasn't boring and I don't find fw boring atm as a game I just would like more pvp and arena and such which is my main problem.

    Lastly, as people have said there is diminishing returns. Things that will get one person from level 50-70 resist will get another person from 90-91 resist(don't quote me on this). The first person in question will benefit A LOT more and be able to at least play the game without dying. It is also okay to accept a new player might have to cs A LITTLE to catch up. There are people in my guild that are casual players who spent 50 bucks today. They csed yeah but they are still the people who need to catch up. You yourself are a noncser but you aren't the type of player that needs helped. There ARE some people who might cs small amounts or casually who can use the help to catch up.
  • hits4hire
    hits4hire Posts: 183 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    minml wrote: »
    Thanks to us. And all the other non CN servers of the game under PWE.

    pretty sure they were doing just as fine when the game was exclusive to CN servers
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  • hits4hire
    hits4hire Posts: 183 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    jhkx123 wrote: »
    CN has a bigger population and they balance out the playerbase with providing free things to players that are pay to get here.. like flare gem cards are given out for free.. So not a valid point because they keep the balance of csers and noncsers well..

    yes, i'm aware of the population, that was the WHOLE point. the more population we can bring to this company, the more we will be rewarded with better deals in the CS. it's the whole dang point. however upsetting it may be to you and others, this is what Domino and PWE have deemed necessary and you just have to accept it. you may not like it, you might qq and quit, but someone will be there to take your place when you leave.
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  • jhkx123
    jhkx123 Posts: 80 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    hits4hire wrote: »
    yes, i'm aware of the population, that was the WHOLE point. the more population we can bring to this company, the more we will be rewarded with better deals in the CS. it's the whole dang point. however upsetting it may be to you and others, this is what Domino and PWE have deemed necessary and you just have to accept it. you may not like it, you might qq and quit, but someone will be there to take your place when you leave.

    There's no new players.. Just old players with new toons..
  • hits4hire
    hits4hire Posts: 183 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    jhkx123 wrote: »
    There's no new players.. Just old players with new toons..

    yes because all the new names we see everyday (not returning players from years ago) asking questions in WC on LH about what to do in the game, on a daily basis, and all the other questions expected from a new toon, doesn't somehow count as new players?
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  • Sephmeister - Eyrda
    Sephmeister - Eyrda Posts: 1,249 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    This thread is so intense...!!! :o
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  • jhkx123
    jhkx123 Posts: 80 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    hits4hire wrote: »
    yes because all the new names we see everyday (not returning players from years ago) asking questions in WC on LH about what to do in the game, on a daily basis, and all the other questions expected from a new toon, doesn't somehow count as new players?

    Lol.. ur cute.. fine fine.. we'll see who cries soon.. =D

    I spoke my piece about this matter.. I made my points known..

    enjoy the days to follow..
  • Bhyl - Lionheart
    Bhyl - Lionheart Posts: 410 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Don't forget the orbs are time limited. It's not like they are permanent additions to the shop.

    Wouldn't be surprised if we see more promotions like it though.
  • darkerlocust68
    darkerlocust68 Posts: 171 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    jhkx123 wrote: »
    Lol.. ur cute.. fine fine.. we'll see who cries soon.. =D

    I spoke my piece about this matter.. I made my points known..

    enjoy the days to follow..

    that's a bad combination, ignorance and arrogance should never be mixed.
  • Ulrezaj - Storm Legion
    Ulrezaj - Storm Legion Posts: 140 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    This game has become a joke..and a really bad joke.

    You people talk about goals? let me stop laughing ...i can achieve any goal in this game tomorrow as long i am good at clicking orbs.
    This is not a game anymore it is an online casino whit rewards in pixels. Please tell me what most of you did in the last days? let me answer it for you : u opened orbs ...not 100 not 200 but thousands.

    What is the point anymore to work towards anything really?
    They should just add all the new armors rings etc to an orb or a pack. Because lets face it ...most afk anyway to get the points needed. Also no point to farm gems anymore..why farm when people now just use a script to afk and get gems from x-server/pray bug.

    Idk how anyone can even be so ignorant to find excuses for the management anymore. This is now the equivalent of a private server. And it will stay like this till they decide to close it.

    Game has no new players anymore just old players or former players that came back.

    And to be honest i find milking the cows in another game i play or planting some trees in that game in the hope to get a rare thuderstruck more exciting then anything in FW lol. And that says allot coming from someone who played this game since it's release and has stuck to the game whit all the bugs and issues it had.

    This was a good game but it was ruined by FW's greed and incompetence .
  • Ayumichan - Storm Legion
    Ayumichan - Storm Legion Posts: 364 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    PWE is not ruined anything this time,on the contrary...i didnt saw this kind of life in the game since the Freedom Falls update,or even before that. CS-er are happy,and most non-cs is happy as well. Old players are returning,not many but still its something that PWE hasnt achieved long ago.

    "We" always QQ that new players cant catch up to old players,now they can. Sure they have to spend some bucks but not even remotely close to the amount they would have to before this pack.

    Its not perfect,but still a very good step into the right direction,now if they would make a few character advancing stuff for soul leafs as well, like flare gem card or even mastery-resist book,that would be awesome.

    I can say that already that things are definitely changing,try to adapt,if you cant then take a break and wait for new changes that will maybe more non-cs friendly step. Im almost sure they will come in the near future.
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  • conterkiller
    conterkiller Posts: 2,479 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    hits4hire wrote: »
    yes, i'm aware of all these points, but:

    1) just because i have a join date of last year doesn't mean i've been playing for just a year
    2) CN still has a ton of content not implemented into our version yet that we will probably get
    3) for goodness sakes, in CN version it's easier to make a decent toon than it is on private server and they are doing great economically speaking

    i didnt even look at your date.. i just said it becaus of how you talk about the game.. lol

    Yeah.. China has it.. not us.. we still havent even gotten lv85 arena gear that was introduced in china a year ago.. but we got free orbs to blindly make most of the people happy.. lol

    And CN isnt easier than private.. and u cant compare both version because of how different they are when it comes to the Cash shop..

    This is your assumption but you don't have anything to back this up. I have a char that is beyond what you listed as your requirements. I just set higher goals and I actually feel comfortable with the game atm and am having fun with it. I would like to get level 4 wings. Do I think I'll get them in the near future? No, but it's a nice thing I can aim for long term. After that I still need 80 rune energy, a purple pet, gold gear, level 90 resists, better id's, more accessories, champ shoulder, gloops, etc.... there is a lot to do in fw.

    I cs. Not hardcore, but I cs enough that it's a noticeable help. I farm a lot also. In current game state I would be comfortable not csing at all because my char is good and there is still a lot of things to do and ways to progress. On the private server people didn't quit cause they suddenly got maxed, they found things to do to make their char better. It wasn't boring and I don't find fw boring atm as a game I just would like more pvp and arena and such which is my main problem.

    Lastly, as people have said there is diminishing returns. Things that will get one person from level 50-70 resist will get another person from 90-91 resist(don't quote me on this). The first person in question will benefit A LOT more and be able to at least play the game without dying. It is also okay to accept a new player might have to cs A LITTLE to catch up. There are people in my guild that are casual players who spent 50 bucks today. They csed yeah but they are still the people who need to catch up. You yourself are a noncser but you aren't the type of player that needs helped. There ARE some people who might cs small amounts or casually who can use the help to catch up.
    Man you are the first one to complain in WC of how bored you are all the time.. and you quit the game not long ago for a couple months as well..
    You are not complaining this past few days cuz you been too busy being distracted with free orbs.. like most of everyone else.. lol
    hits4hire wrote: »
    pretty sure they were doing just as fine when the game was exclusive to CN servers

    CN was only exclussive for about 3-6 months.. before NA version came out.. but as time passed by.. our patches kept delaying more and more.. and right now we are like a whole year behind, specially when it comes to Arena gears lol
    PWE is not ruined anything this time,on the contrary...i didnt saw this kind of life in the game since the Freedom Falls update,or even before that. CS-er are happy,and most non-cs is happy as well. Old players are returning,not many but still its something that PWE hasnt achieved long ago.

    "We" always QQ that new players cant catch up to old players,now they can. Sure they have to spend some bucks but not even remotely close to the amount they would have to before this pack.

    Its not perfect,but still a very good step into the right direction,now if they would make a few character advancing stuff for soul leafs as well, like flare gem card or even mastery-resist book,that would be awesome.

    I can say that already that things are definitely changing,try to adapt,if you cant then take a break and wait for new changes that will maybe more non-cs friendly step. Im almost sure they will come in the near future.
    I think what u saw was just an infinite amount of alts, made by a small group of players.. just spamming orbs in world chat.. and running around trading their stuff to their mains.. lol
    Just like people say.. there are not new players.. just new characters of old players..

    Why would a promotion or an free anniversary prize.. that had no press coverage or propaganda.. Bring in new players to the game?? lol

    What does that has to do with anything about bringing new players? New players wouldn't know what they are getting.. or wouldn't be able to get anniversary orbs..
    and why would a new player come here and care about CSing when he doesn't even know or understand the game?

    W/e u think u saw.. it was not a new players.. it was most likely just a new toon of an old player.. since its so easy to max them with this whole free stuff nowadays.. or in the rarest case.. some old player returning to get some free stuff.. and quitting again in a couple weeks, since no real changes have been done to the important stuff in the game.. lol

  • hits4hire
    hits4hire Posts: 183 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    i didnt even look at your date.. i just said it becaus of how you talk about the game.. lol

    Yeah.. China has it.. not us.. we still havent even gotten lv85 arena gear that was introduced in china a year ago.. but we got free orbs to blindly make most of the people happy.. lol

    And CN isnt easier than private.. and u cant compare both version because of how different they are when it comes to the Cash shop..



    Man you are the first one to complain in WC of how bored you are all the time.. and you quit the game not long ago for a couple months as well..
    You are not complaining this past few days cuz you been too busy being distracted with free orbs.. like most of everyone else.. lol



    CN was only exclussive for about 3-6 months.. before NA version came out.. but as time passed by.. our patches kept delaying more and more.. and right now we are like a whole year behind, specially when it comes to Arena gears lol


    I think what u saw was just an infinite amount of alts, made by a small group of players.. just spamming orbs in world chat.. and running around trading their stuff to their mains.. lol
    Just like people say.. there are not new players.. just new characters of old players..

    Why would a promotion or an free anniversary prize.. that had no press coverage or propaganda.. Bring in new players to the game?? lol

    What does that has to do with anything about bringing new players? New players wouldn't know what they are getting.. or wouldn't be able to get anniversary orbs..
    and why would a new player come here and care about CSing when he doesn't even know or understand the game?

    W/e u think u saw.. it was not a new players.. it was most likely just a new toon of an old player.. since its so easy to max them with this whole free stuff nowadays.. or in the rarest case.. some old player returning to get some free stuff.. and quitting again in a couple weeks, since no real changes have been done to the important stuff in the game.. lol

    in the end, it doesn't really matter. they will do what they want to make money how they see fit. pitching a fit isn't going to prevent them from taking the game where they feel it should be. i honestly don't even see how this is up for discussion, especially on a F2P game. if in exchange i get to keep playing this game for free while CSers get stronger, then, well, it's my own fault for not creating a budget that allows me to see the gains on my toon i want and i will kindly accept that for being able to at least continue to farm on my toon and slowly, but surely get stronger.
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  • jhkx123
    jhkx123 Posts: 80 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    hits4hire wrote: »
    in the end, it doesn't really matter. they will do what they want to make money how they see fit. pitching a fit isn't going to prevent them from taking the game where they feel it should be. i honestly don't even see how this is up for discussion, especially on a F2P game. if in exchange i get to keep playing this game for free while CSers get stronger, then, well, it's my own fault for not creating a budget that allows me to see the gains on my toon i want and i will kindly accept that for being able to at least continue to farm on my toon and slowly, but surely get stronger.

    Well, it is a forum where players are allowed to discuss on things regarding events that happens... Or are you gonna share with me ur opinion on what a forum is as well?

    Ok, cheap shot.. Last one ill make.. So thats the future of the game you want? To see it last a little while longer while u get stronger? And for what? So that the next day the game is empty or shut down? See here, what ur looking at are short term result.. Ppl came back coz they heard about this new orb that gives them what they were tired of farming for and the reason why they left in the first place.. But when they realised after the illusion of good gifts wears off, that nothing has changed and they have even lesser things to do now... Bye bye again... For even longer..

    Short term win, long term loss.. And im telling right now.. U may argue with what conter n i are saying... But we're actually on the side of keeping this game around..
  • hits4hire
    hits4hire Posts: 183 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    if you want to change things so badly, then just convince people not to CS. please, go on and try to convince people not to take advantage of timed sales that allows them to feel more empowered by getting more for their time and money invested. the people you speak of that are somehow gonna get bored and leave are people that were going to leave at a certain point anyways. However, I still see people close to what some would consider a maxed toon playing the game on a fairly regular basis. they play their toon with pride and leaving is the last thing on their mind.

    nobody is going to run out of things to do anytime soon. so really, you'll drive each other away from the game before you somehow manage to max everything.
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  • stefanlehman
    stefanlehman Posts: 49 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Just a casino +1. Ist person farmville, no challenges, just pretty scenery. For several types of players being forced to have the same equipment as everyone else has no allure. No more rewards for excelling. Why bother? You have to have a full group anyways. Options for those who enjoy them. And trying them are gone. Only one road to choose lays before you. Same one as everyone else. The open ended sandbox to play in is gone. Not all will see it this way I know. But those who do are fleeing in droves.
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