HR Depths - Intentionally broken?

Shapelle - Lionheart
Shapelle - Lionheart Posts: 250 Arc User
edited February 2015 in General Discussion
I mean, I'm fully buffed. I'm a marksman. 60% crit-chance base. Around 11K attack. 470% crit-damage. 92K health. 4.5K defense (prot buff). 1200 earth and 1000 fire mastery (91 fire/earth mastery level on both). Full hero 3 gear, yadda yadda.

First room, get my **** handed to me. Don't even get the boss down to half-health as time is running out, and my health going down fairly quickly. Sloshing down Life Serum like it's free (it isn't), and still run out of health (and die) with 5% time remaining, and the boss at 50% health.

I get it's meant to be a challenge, but I'm like a 90% maxed character, and I can't even get past the first frigging room to get the drops to upgrade the demon with (she's at 486 roses).

So really, wtf is this? another lame cash-grab attempt? "Sorry, but you need to spend at least $5K on masteries and acquire 420 chroma if you want to pass the first room?"

I wasn't expecting HR Depths to be a cake-walk, but seriously guys. That's just fcking ****.
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  • infamous628
    infamous628 Posts: 621 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    I tried it and got wreaked. But don't complain, it's good. An actual challenge.
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  • ridingstones
    ridingstones Posts: 13 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    I tried it and got wreaked. But don't complain, it's good. An actual challenge.

    its made to be that way, HR Depths is the hardest instance (solo) you'll face for a very long time
  • bbadggirll
    bbadggirll Posts: 24 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    a sadistic part of me is happy to hear this, purely because now instead of smug bragging about how they **** their way through HR, there will be emo **** from the major CSers instead.
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  • BalthazarF - Shylia
    BalthazarF - Shylia Posts: 646 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    guys they are so many more stats to get on chars. Get those stats (by exemple a lot lot more atk with new ff rings and necklace) and then try again :)
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  • Freezatron - Lionheart
    Freezatron - Lionheart Posts: 261 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Room 10 was my maxed room -_- nearly killed boss just ran out of time.
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  • Shapelle - Lionheart
    Shapelle - Lionheart Posts: 250 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    bbadggirll wrote: »
    a sadistic part of me is happy to hear this, purely because now instead of smug bragging about how they **** their way through HR, there will be emo **** from the major CSers instead.

    The sad thing is, it'll now just be worse. Only the very biggest CS'ers will be able to progress, and everyone else will be unable to complete even the first room to unlock more rose points to even hope to progress.

    It will very much extend that notion of elitist haves and have nots, and amplify it, 'cos once you're able to surpass that first hurdle, you can accelerate from there. You can't accelerate when there's a solid brick wall placed in your way from the very first room that you're not even half-way capable of making it through.

    Unless I'm missing something major, such as the new god skills, for which I'm still confused as fck on, despite reading their really poorly worded translations many times.
  • viiix
    viiix Posts: 1,270 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    The sad thing is, it'll now just be worse. Only the very biggest CS'ers will be able to progress, and everyone else will be unable to complete even the first room to unlock more rose points to even hope to progress.

    It will very much extend that notion of elitist haves and have nots, and amplify it, 'cos once you're able to surpass that first hurdle, you can accelerate from there. You can't accelerate when there's a solid brick wall placed in your way from the very first room that you're not even half-way capable of making it through.

    Unless I'm missing something major, such as the new god skills, for which I'm still confused as fck on, despite reading their really poorly worded translations many times.

    I dunno if that's true. Most people don't have a full set of Hero 4 gears yet, and they're missing new rings and necklaces. I'm guess it'll be easier after all that stuff is done. Non-CSers were able to do HR50 before the 90s patch, so I'm gonna go on a limb and say it'll be the same for HR Depth now. Lots of people couldn't do HR50 back them (myself included), so it's not really that big of a change.
  • CountVonCo - Illyfue
    CountVonCo - Illyfue Posts: 668 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    bbadggirll wrote: »
    a sadistic part of me is happy to hear this, purely because now instead of smug bragging about how they **** their way through HR, there will be emo **** from the major CSers instead.

    I dont CS and I breeze through HR and its boring, you're point sounds like sour grapes to me.

    Back to topic; As Balthazar states, dont expect to get far in HR depths until u have ur new jewelry forted gem'd and have a few V gems too.

    Also to note, regular HR as has also been optimized to adjust difficulty, some saying its a bit harder too.
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  • _Humpriest - Illyfue
    _Humpriest - Illyfue Posts: 29 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    viiix wrote: »
    I dunno if that's true. Most people don't have a full set of Hero 4 gears yet, and they're missing new rings and necklaces. I'm guess it'll be easier after all that stuff is done. Non-CSers were able to do HR50 before the 90s patch, so I'm gonna go on a limb and say it'll be the same for HR Depth now. Lots of people couldn't do HR50 back them (myself included), so it's not really that big of a change.

    Yes but at least everyone were capable of beating room 1 of normal hell road when it came out,unless you were lv60 with level 5 gear from starting grounds and no skills learned.

    Also I doubt that getting the foritifed FF jewelry and hero rank 4 gear is enough of a upgrade to pass room 1 (51) when you already have the stats the OP has.
  • Dyvim - Eyrda
    Dyvim - Eyrda Posts: 89 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Idk, I bet it will be actually. the rank 4 champ gears give even more PvE intensity, which as most people know is OP as hell in PvE, with sexier stats. Not to mention how amazing the ring ring and neck will be with more stats and 4 gem slots. Don't forget you can now make 3 Gems that give additional PvE intensity. 1 can be equipped in each ring/ring/neck. That alone is huggge. That is a lot of damage we can't even comprehend yet, but I'm betting once you get 2 new upgrades might be able to get past 51, who knows, just guessing. The jewelry is huge bonus to PvE though with the new Gem. Anyway, thanks for sharing your experience on its difficulty. sounds like a bish, at least you guys tried it. I'm still on Khnum :)
  • Gurbir - Dyos
    Gurbir - Dyos Posts: 9 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    beat 1st floor barley, it gives only adv purple stuff each is x200 , 2nd room u gota face 2 mobs same time tough as 1st floor mob
  • almightysaints
    almightysaints Posts: 72 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    The sad thing is, it'll now just be worse. Only the very biggest CS'ers will be able to progress, and everyone else will be unable to complete even the first room to unlock more rose points to even hope to progress.

    It will very much extend that notion of elitist haves and have nots, and amplify it, 'cos once you're able to surpass that first hurdle, you can accelerate from there. You can't accelerate when there's a solid brick wall placed in your way from the very first room that you're not even half-way capable of making it through.

    Unless I'm missing something major, such as the new god skills, for which I'm still confused as fck on, despite reading their really poorly worded translations many times.
    From the look of it seems like your a pretty high cser yourself maybe getting to know your toon alil better and when to use what skills when might help you out in HR. I for one love the fact that HR is harder to do now.
  • hits4hire
    hits4hire Posts: 183 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    From the look of it seems like your a pretty high cser yourself maybe getting to know your toon alil better and when to use what skills when might help you out in HR. I for one love the fact that HR is harder to do now.

    Shap is one of the top MM on Lionheart, so i doubt there is anything he could do to "learn his toon a lil better". The post relating to PVE intensity was what i was initially thinking myself. With more PVE intensity you should have better results.

    Now that I think about it, a pet buff for PVE intensity would be great
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  • Shapelle - Lionheart
    Shapelle - Lionheart Posts: 250 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    From the look of it seems like your a pretty high cser yourself maybe getting to know your toon alil better and when to use what skills when might help you out in HR. I for one love the fact that HR is harder to do now.

    I call a failed troll attempt :)

    More PvE probably will help, but I'm thinking that again, this is just another form of cash grab. It's true, I'm a moderate CS'er, however what I've spent (either time-wise, or $$ wise [is there any real difference?]) falls well short of the truly hard core.

    I think fundamentally what I'm objecting to here is the transparent cash grab mentality to progress. Games are meant to be casual fun, not things to sink thousands of dollars into in order swing a bigger epeen about, or to surrender one's ability to work productively in order to farm sufficiently to even complete what should be fairly basic entry level tasks.
  • cureaustria
    cureaustria Posts: 497 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    79% crit with 472% crit power and 9,8k attack

    all buffed what its available, pure pve damage rebell tree,
    maxxed princess on attack and i can hold against her

    i critted him 20 hits in a row at the end, but boss had 7% left
    (this stack does 12,8k each second)
    second try
    a few seconds befor tim out -> room "1" done

    thought "WHAT dafuq was that o0"

    not sure if 2-3k more attack could help further than room 15

    Edit: second room nooo chance with 15k damage/second
    too much selfheal/ too less damage, not even one was down
  • ToLLL - Shylia
    ToLLL - Shylia Posts: 200 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    I don't know what are your "top MM on storm", but I easily beat first rooms.
    But yeah, this is way harder than previous HR.
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  • BornAtLast - Storm Legion
    BornAtLast - Storm Legion Posts: 21 Arc User
    edited February 2015
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    Help me ._.
    Should of probably gotten prot buff



    Only got it down to 19% with prot buff :/
  • waskiu1
    waskiu1 Posts: 85 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    That sounds prety nice, new challenge to face. Can't wait when they fix Soulforce trinkets again to work for non-CSer to make use of my Lv 4 flappers :)
  • ILikeBigGu - Illyfue
    ILikeBigGu - Illyfue Posts: 1,066 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    I don't know what are your "top MM on storm", but I easily beat first rooms.
    But yeah, this is way harder than previous HR.

    What did you previously run room 50 at? Acclaim before this patch i mean

    And do you have fortify and intens, rage gems yet?
    I've got new gems but im not champ gear neither precision, so not sure how i'll do. Will probably try it out today or tomorrow!

    Soul should work better in HR now though, IMO.(yet not tested) longer bubbles = less hp lost and princess can attack more instead of heal
    Earlier precision been having aloot easier time beating HR.. ^^
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  • KlKO - Lionheart
    KlKO - Lionheart Posts: 230 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    i love how you all btch HR got way to easy
    now you can't beat it anymore it's to "broken"
    lol and you wonder why FW staff quit
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  • ToLLL - Shylia
    ToLLL - Shylia Posts: 200 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    What did you previously run room 50 at? Acclaim before this patch i mean

    And do you have fortify and intens, rage gems yet?
    I've got new gems but im not champ gear neither precision, so not sure how i'll do. Will probably try it out today or tomorrow!

    Soul should work better in HR now though, IMO.(yet not tested) longer bubbles = less hp lost and princess can attack more instead of heal
    Earlier precision been having aloot easier time beating HR.. ^^

    Room 50 = ~120/130.
    Global HR score pre-extension= ~6750.
    I don't have anything new from extension (fortify, pve intensity, still 280 chroma (no V Gems, no new gems).
    But yes, HR was made to be done in precision, way better damage/buff/debuff in this specialisation than soul.
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  • Shapelle - Lionheart
    Shapelle - Lionheart Posts: 250 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    i love how you all btch HR got way to easy
    now you can't beat it anymore it's to "broken"
    lol and you wonder why FW staff quit

    Not everyone believes that dumping $10K into a game is a reasonable use of money...
  • nihooya
    nihooya Posts: 607 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    i love how you all btch HR got way to easy
    now you can't beat it anymore it's to "broken"
    lol and you wonder why FW staff quit

    I love morons that bitched game have no players and is dead now **** on players bitching oh thats just to much.
  • ILikeBigGu - Illyfue
    ILikeBigGu - Illyfue Posts: 1,066 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Mostly the bosses are hard as mm (soul/burst spec tried only) rest you can easily pass, mobs aren't same as normal HR either. Following
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  • wolfenstorm
    wolfenstorm Posts: 135 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Normal HR did not become any easier for me, personally. The only change I noticed was an increase in shards one receives to upgrade the princess helper.
  • arendh
    arendh Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2015
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    Room 11, with elem gear (no pve intensity), no G5, no new rings/gems
  • serenity234876
    serenity234876 Posts: 726 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    :D ty for making hell road a challenage again

    if you were strong before patch you should get between 5-10 now in depths if not then I guess you wasn't as strong as you thought and your toon lacks

    Lh already has a strong precision mm getting to 10 hr without making any improves to his gear from after patch additions.

    with after patch additions not including the additional roses we have potential to gain upwards of 3k attack more cc more cd a lot more mastery/pveintesity and more def. im sure after you gain a lot of those aspects and farm the roses completing depths may become more realistic toon

    shap you are a strong mm but you also lack in many many aspects. keep working to improve your toon and it doesn't take all cs to do it either. rather than lash out and blame though ask for help on how u could improve
  • sharii69
    sharii69 Posts: 205 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    I mean.. im on room 18 currently and I haven't tried to go further yet.. Ill let you know when I cant get any further
  • sillyputy
    sillyputy Posts: 33 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    sharii69 wrote: »
    I mean.. im on room 18 currently and I haven't tried to go further yet.. Ill let you know when I cant get any further

    Well to be fair, you and clever are the closest to maxxed toons than anyone else and that includes Europe too. You two have no say!!
  • KlKO - Lionheart
    KlKO - Lionheart Posts: 230 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Not everyone believes that dumping $10K into a game is a reasonable use of money...

    its okai
    believe what you want
    you will still cry in the end anyways
    you probably csed more than me lol
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