Resistances -- Masteries of Bosses and Mobs

Pve res are pretty much useless, few wb's (like anyanka or w/e is called, the lvl 78 Flying elite) use a water skill and maybe few other but tbh you can do with 0 res :P

And about hr everything in there do basic damage so only defence reduce it.

Yes, basically res are needed only for pvp, soz :P

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infamous628 wrote: »

Incorrect, if you plan on doing Elemental Bosses for the lv85 purple resistance gear such as

thats not really correct either. needing high resists (901+ to be exact except dark) for those bosses are so you dont accumulate stacks that increase damage taken, but the resists themselves dont reduce damage from the bosses like what OP and the person you quoted were referring to. and if you are pve, that is most definitely not the 'best gear in the game' so why would you even bother with those bosses/gear? has no pve intensity for higher damage.... (aside from helping guild out or something).

infamous628 wrote: »

The CC and Cdmg arguably make up for the lack of PvE intensity. And sure you don't NEED the res, but if you actually plan on doing the boss I'd like to see someone survive without the res needed lol. Besides, the bosses are PvE. I was stating a situation that is PvE that requires resistance, seeing as who I responded to said that res are "basically" useless in PvE.

[Edit] You mentioned these not being the best gear in the game for PvE, although I agree with you somewhat, I'd say that getting the ele boots and another piece would be fantastic with the 6 pieces of champion so that you get the set bonuses of that. I say boots specifically because they at the moment provide the highest HP of any boot gears, excluding the overpriced gold boots.

unless you have a full set of gear with pve intensity and a full set of arena/elemental gear to comment on how extra crit damage and chance make up for a lack of pve int, your opinion is purely speculative. i however, have two complete sets, one of 7pc champ + zodiac and one of 5pc arena with hands/boots ele + zod (not switching arena set out for other ele pieces til i have all 7). and i can tell you with 100% certainty that pve damage in arena/ele gear with full crit damage ids is a joke compared to champ set with mostly but not all crit damage ids. while fighting an elemental boss i have tested switching out hands with a 10% crit damage id for champ hands with no crit id at all and they do the same amount. now if i were lucky to get additional crit damage on those champ hands theyd be doing even more damage.

with the glitches in our x-server, its actually not very hard for someone with low resists to blow all cds and super dps the ele bosses for a few minutes until stacks accumulate then just go to xserver and reset both stacks and cd skills, to rinse and repeat if they were adventurous enough. elemental boots are nice despite no pve int but for most servers you have to have gold to afford buying them or be in the guilds getting the drops, whereas champ boots are relatively cheap point-wise. (free if you get gear drop in ESNM/HM).

so to the OP, champ gear is certainly the best choice for pve. it was already answered above that hell road is all basic damage to counteract with more defense, not resists. if you have any intention of doing pvp or elemental bosses, investing in resists would be useful but unless you want to spend a year farming the gold or cs a thousand dollars of gold to pump into resists, you likely arent going to get any high enough to matter. just do your hell road 2x a week and collect war god points for free resists points that should suffice for any pve mobs/bosses outside of the elemental prison.

infamous628 wrote: »

Incorrect, if you plan on doing Elemental Bosses for the lv85 purple resistance gear such as:
You need your resistances up in the 950+ zone, depending on which element boss you're doing. These bosses provide the best gear in game atm and you make a lot of cash from them, so saying PvE res is useless is quite wrong. Granted these bosses are for players that are definitely toward the endgame level.

this elemental gear is NOT engame, PW waits with lv85 arena gear because they want
that evryone transfers and IDS this elemental things

when evrything is done, PW got evrything they can get - > they will give us 85 arena gear
and no one will have the elemental gear again...

they only make 2 steps of incommings money waves, and only stupid idiots
make both steps

just an example why this crit and crit power additonal stuff is more than useless:
an endgame character has always arround 350% crit def/45% crit eva (with lv85 arena)
theres no need for double IDs and not even half of equip even with crit defens or crit evasion

an VERY high crit power/ crit player has arround 550%/70% endgame
(with no possible equal crit def/crit eva on his own)

we calculate with 100% crit rate, just because with skills this player can reach this easiely

then the Crit Pow. player can hit with 55% possible crit / 200% crit power
first -> its not 200%, its 20% less because of soultree, its only 160%

overalldamage/ damage summed up over time -> he strikes with 130%

summarized:
an lv4 winged with EVRYTHING in crit and crit power can only make 30% more damage
on an average geared arena 85 player

the better the arena gear player is geared, the less use an crit power setting gets
(arena gear 85 provides MORE resistance than elemental)

SAME geared player:
[COLOR="rgb(0, 191, 255)"]crit power/crit rate player makes 10-15% more damage [/COLOR]on arena setting player
arena setting geared player makes MORE THAN 50% additional damage on this elemental player

thats why arena gear will be the future and people wich are upping elemental gear at the momen
make this only for PW but not for themself

they are simply not upping endgame gear, they are upping "the endgame gear of this week"

thats how PW earns twice the money, and people loose twice the money for reaching endgame
evry month new

cureaustria wrote: »

this elemental gear is NOT engame

i dont see why elemental gear cant be 'endgame' just because we dont have new arena gear yet....elemental sets can have accuracy additional stats and id it, which makes it a great option for characters who want to maintain high cc/cdam while being able to reliably hit any of the few evasion players left.

on the flipside it can also get evasion additional stats and ids, which isnt a half bad option for eva players to not sacrifice a ton of damage or defensiveness via resists with blue or purple eva gear ids.

if you want to trade some versatility for cdef/cdodge, ele gear is definitely the way to go (and just because i quoted you does not mean i want you to reply back with all your super amazing stats that dont justify a single thing for the rest of the game population).

cureaustria wrote: »

this elemental gear is NOT engame, PW waits with lv85 arena gear because they want
that evryone transfers and IDS this elemental things

when evrything is done, PW got evrything they can get - > they will give us 85 arena gear
and no one will have the elemental gear again...

they only make 2 steps of incommings money waves, and only stupid idiots
make both steps

just an example why this crit and crit power additonal stuff is more than useless:
an endgame character has always arround 350% crit def/45% crit eva (with lv85 arena)
theres no need for double IDs and not even half of equip even with crit defens or crit evasion

an VERY high crit power/ crit player has arround 550%/70% endgame
(with no possible equal crit def/crit eva on his own)

we calculate with 100% crit rate, just because with skills this player can reach this easiely

then the Crit Pow. player can hit with 55% possible crit / 200% crit power
first -> its not 200%, its 20% less because of soultree, its only 160%

overalldamage/ damage summed up over time -> he strikes with 130%

summarized:
an lv4 winged with EVRYTHING in crit and crit power can only make 30% more damage
on an average geared arena 85 player

the better the arena gear player is geared, the less use an crit power setting gets
(arena gear 85 provides MORE resistance than elemental)

SAME geared player:
[COLOR="rgb(0, 191, 255)"]crit power/crit rate player makes 10-15% more damage [/COLOR]on arena setting player
arena setting geared player makes MORE THAN 50% additional damage on this elemental player

thats why arena gear will be the future and people wich are upping elemental gear at the momen
make this only for PW but not for themself

they are simply not upping endgame gear, they are upping "the endgame gear of this week"

thats how PW earns twice the money, and people loose twice the money for reaching endgame
evry month new

End game = the gear in which is the strongest OBTAINABLE AT THE CURRENT PATCH. IF we were going to go by your definition of end game, the only litteral "end game gear" would be the most powerful set in existance once the game is officially not being updated any longer. Sheesh.

shirayukihime wrote: »

Ummm... how are u spposed to do that if u cant go back at boss once u left? just asking o.o

tavannyl wrote: »

with the glitches in our x-server, its actually not very hard for someone with low resists to blow all cds and super dps the ele bosses for a few minutes until stacks accumulate then just go to xserver and reset both stacks and cd skills

seems pretty obvious to me. did you even read what you quoted?

note: as that was a dialogue between eyrda and lionheart players, clearly none of this applies to euro players.

spiceywings wrote: »

seems pretty obvious to me. did you even read what you quoted?

note: as that was a dialogue between eyrda and lionheart players, clearly none of this applies to euro players.

Well, what he was pointing out is, that once you left the 85ish ele boss instance you can't enter it again. And I doubt that going to X-Server from within that instance will bring you back to the instance on return.

conterkiller wrote: »

And what this guy Tavannyl said

she is going to murder you for dat

anyastroud wrote: »

Will give it a try today.

euro xserver and normal servers were never changed times to remove hopping glitch (since milas is still able to use it, no?) to create a new time wormhole so there is no plausible reason this would work for you. tough cookies.

amarantos wrote: »

euro xserver and normal servers were never changed times to remove hopping glitch (since milas is still able to use it, no?) to create a new time wormhole so there is no plausible reason this would work for you. tough cookies.

Yea, did not worked out. But still anything should always be tested on every server Not that the playbase is doing this public beta test anyway...