Jazziel's In-Depth Vampire Guide

lorekan
lorekan Posts: 0 Arc User
edited June 2012 in Vampire Discussion
UNDER CONSTRUCTION. IMPROVED AND MAINTAINED AS OF 23/3/2011.
Welcome, to my (Jazziel), guide to the Vampire Class!!
The vampire is a extraordinary class and something distinguishing , in that it has several different abilities that governs this class.To sort out one issue, vampires happen not to be overpowered, their damage is easily countered by the low def they have and the low damage autoatks, the fact that all their spells are cast also is a hindrance. That being vampires are powerful if used properly and a class to be reckoned with. This guide will be split into three sections for the three class talent trees and here we start with....

Inferno Vampire
Pros:
Greatest damage out of all three trees, and powerful dps that is capable of killing people easily.
Gets a effect from Gale Wings that 60% of the speed is retained after the effect is gone, allowing for a very fast moving character.
Strongest Dps skill out of all three trees, possibly in the game, capable of dealing 1k+ damage every few sec.

Cons:
No effective debuff whatsoever.
Mp cost is again HUGE! possibly the biggest in the game, capable of eating more than 4k mp in 1min.
The main Inferno Vampire attack, Evil Flame has 2sec cast time, meaning u cant move or defend in those 2sec.

Equips:
Those should be targetted at fire mastery, hp + and heal effect increase items. Only use attack if there is nothing else available for your weapon. Even Def is preferable. Try to get A good grade Wither Set as soon as possible, good hp, good def, and fire mastery increase.

Player versus Player:
When Fighting your main skill should always be feast, it allows you to apply seed of flame and evil flame curse, then change to vampire mode, charmed strike 4x apply and finish with evil flame. This should be a combo that allows you to kill before your opponent can effectively kill you. Also a good idea is to keep a finger on the dark contract, and to start casting it when your hp is around 1k-2k. Now for specialist advice depending on your opponent.

Assassin:

Your probably most common enemy as there are so many of them, I advice not starting the fight straight away with feast, and run around till they have atked you, the moment they are out of the hide mode use autoatk to stop em going into hide mode again, and keep up with some Evil flame attack when possible. Always keep moving. When the second hide mode is used immediately use feast, then use the combo affore mentioned, or just hit with the seed of flame and evil flame curse, then evil flame till they die.

Warrior:
A very tricky class to kill, your best bet is to use gale wings after the stun and heal up straight away, I do not advice fightin a experienced warrior without feast, this will most likely end up in your death. Your best hope is to kill em during feast mode while not trying to come too close.

Protector:
The moment they stun use feast and gale wing to heal up, be careful of their immune so as not to waste your skills when it has no effect. Use Invigoration till it passes, watch out for slow. Dont ever get close to them, their damage is not much but coupled with stun it can overwhelm you quickly.

Priest:
A fairly straightforward fight, a steady dark contract, seed of flame, evil flame curse, and evil flame attacks should make you the winner after one vampire form, if that.

Marksman:
Get in with evil flame as soon as possible, use your dark contract slighly early so as to maintain a high health bar. Dot here is your best bet.

Mage:
Pretty much like bard, be careful to keep healing as their damage can quickly kill you if not careful. If you run out of mp keep potting. Dont waste time trying to move, just stack Evil flame and seed as much as possible. Remember to pot mp and heal up steadily

Bard:
Same with mage, be careful to maintain a steady steam of Dark contract and WATCH OUT FOR MP.

This is pretty much it for the Inferno Vampire Section, If Anything else you think is required to be added, please leave a comment.
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  • lorekan
    lorekan Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Blood Vampire

    Pros:
    Uses the least mp out of all 3 vampire talent trees
    Good Hp battery for party
    Hard to kill in PvP
    Most Versatile out of all 3 types, can be used for decent DoT, damage and /or healing depending on equips.

    Cons:
    Lowest damage naturally, takes equips to bring out the best in this class damage wise.
    The Debuffing/DoT is not the best out of all 3 types.
    Requires equips to bring out the best in this type.

    Equips:
    Your equips as a blood vampire should be focused on health increase, and crit reduction, Health increase, dark mastery/attack increase If you can afford it is ur best bet. Having some heal effect in your weapon is a good idea also.

    Player Versus Player
    When Fighting your main starting skill after being hit should always be seed of Life, then start stacking the DoTs ( Evil flame curse, evil flame, vampire sigil etc) Keep up a steady vampire sigil attack for the extra damage and healing, while alternating with dark ripple for fast vampire mode trigger. Use charmed strike when possible. Now for some targetted tips and pointers.

    Warrior:
    If stunned use feast and gale wing to heal up, try and get in as many DoTs during feast as possible. I do not advice fighting a warrior with no feast, careful of their slow.

    Protector:
    The moment they stun use feast and gale wing to heal up, be careful of their immune so as not to waste your skills when it has no effect. Use Invigoration till it passes, watch out for slow

    Assassin:
    Use feast after their second stealth, be sure to keep up auto atks and DoT to stop them using stealth again, always keep moving. watch out for their slow.

    Mage:
    Rely on DoT mostly, keep up the health as much as possible, stack the DoT to the max but again watch out for your health.

    Bard:
    Same thing with mage, keep up the DoT, keep up the health, watch out for your mp bar and dont let them outlast you.

    This is it Pretty much for the Blood Vampire section. Keep an eye out For Dark Vampire! Will be updated as soon as possible.
  • lorekan
    lorekan Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Dark Vampire
    *Credits to Kaiker*

    Pros:
    High Burst DPS,
    Great in PvP both Mass and 1v1,
    Only class to possess stuns
    TWO 1 second stuns,
    11 second Feast (longest feast possible )

    Cons:
    Very squishy.
    Requires equips to bring out the best in this type.

    Equips:
    Your equips as a dark vampire should be focused on health increase, and attack, dark mastery/attack increase If you can afford it is ur best bet.

    Player Versus Player
    When Fighting, your main skills should always be your stuns a feast lasting 11sec will result in a easily won pvp

    Warrior:
    If stunned use feast and gale wing to heal up, try and get in as many DoTs during feast as possible. I do not advice fighting a warrior with no feast, careful of their slow. Stay close enof to stop em stunning but far enof not to be hit by their sword atk, takes practise but its easy.

    Protector:
    The moment they stun use feast and gale wing to heal up, be careful of their immune so as not to waste your skills when it has no effect. Use Invigoration till it passes, watch out for slow. A good prot will have huge hp so it will take awhile, be careful of their 10 Fury

    Assassin:
    Use feast after their second stealth, be sure to keep up auto atks and DoT to stop them using stealth again, always keep moving. watch out for their slow.

    Mage:
    Race to the Kill. Stun as often as possible
    Bard:
    Same thing with mage, keep up the DoT, keep up the health, watch out for your mp bar and dont let them outlast you.

    This is it Pretty much for the Dark Vampire section.
    Will be updated as more Info is gotten on this section!
  • lorekan
    lorekan Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Saved For Guide And/ Or Answers to Questions.
    EDIT: Im thinking of expanding the guide to include specific stuff like skill trees, effects of adding and leveling grounds and stuff. Tell me if it should be added!
  • ilovechristi
    ilovechristi Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Hey, may I ask if you know when Forsaken World is coming out OB? Plus, should I go for Fire or Blood, thanks in advance.
  • agentx0123
    agentx0123 Posts: 21 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Hey, may I ask if you know when Forsaken World is coming out OB? Plus, should I go for Fire or Blood, thanks in advance.

    ob i dunno but if u wanna know when u can play for sure it will be at late feb early mar
  • leocord
    leocord Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    nice guide!!!!
    a dark build naw???

    i still dont get y ppl who troll all over forums just ignored this thread....

    atleast give ur view or say ty.....
  • lorekan
    lorekan Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    leocord wrote: »
    nice guide!!!!
    a dark build naw???

    i still dont get y ppl who troll all over forums just ignored this thread....

    atleast give ur view or say ty.....

    Thanks, building the dark build is kinda tricky cuz alot of their skills r still bugged. waiting for fixes, also i might(MIGHT) release talent tree builds including those for hybrids
  • goadale
    goadale Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Thanks for this guide! Very useful for getting started with the class.
  • kaiker
    kaiker Posts: 9 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Hello, glad you put up the guide. I played a vamp since day 1 OB, also, played with the best vamps in the game. So, some constructive criticism.

    Inferno Vampire

    The inferno class, is better described as 'steady' dps rather than powerful. A dark vamp can kill anything less than a Warrior or Protectors health much faster than an inferno vamp. Inferno is a steady dps class that depends on dots and damage debuffs. None of which matter in a fight lasting less than 30 seconds, which in most cases is either PvP or regular mobs.

    About the mana drain. Once again, the dark vamp, has MUCH higher mana drain because of its burst dps nature. The cooldown reduction of Flash Flame does not match Advanced Dark Ripples 1 second cooldown. Not to mention on average, a dark vamp will proc vamp mode more often, because of lower cast AND lower cooldown times which then opens up the huge drain that is Charmed Strike.

    As for equips, attack and hp take priority over everything. HP > Def when it comes to preventing damage especially when taking into consideration the average amount of Def vs HP you get as additional attributes. HP needs to be buffed most because despite being a ranged caster, charmed strike and our 12 meter range keeps us in the aoe zone of most bosses. As for PvP, seriously, anything less than pure HP, attack, and Mastery is jank.

    Assassin Strategy
    Pop feast first. Any decent sin can kill you before your second heal. Running away is completely pointless because of their speed debuff/ensnare and personal speed buff. A well equpped and refined vamp should get an easy kill, otherwise, if they aren't at 25% or less and the snare ends, gg.

    Warrior Strategy
    First move is ALWAYS Gale Wing, assuming this is 1v1, you don't run away from a warrior, you stay CLOSE. The minute you lcose range they can no longer stun you. From here you feast, move to 5 step and clean up.

    Protector Strategy
    They have ONE ranged stun, suffer that and Dots them to death. Don't drag on the fight, one well placed 10 Fury hit is a one shot - assuming wrath is normal or higher.

    Priest Strategy
    Meh, your right. Dots > constant priest heal

    Marksman Strategy
    Squishy class, put them down fast, they have high damage output. It's purely a race to kill. DOTS are bad.

    Mage Strategy
    Use Pots get banned from dueling in the public. GJ

    Bard Strategy
    I would tell you if more actually dueled >_>

    Blood Vampire
    Pros: I would say that rather than 'hard to kill' they take long to kill.
    Cons: Blood Vamps don't need equips to be appreciated, the problem is their utility. in mass pvp I wouldn't think you need more than 1 per 20 people.

    Equips: Health > Healing Effect > Dark Mastery/Dark Attack/Attack > everything else

    Strategy:
    "Fighting your main starting skill after being hit should always be seed of flame" What the **** are you talking about?
    Spam Heal before fight for proc Vamp before battle. Same goes for all vamps

    Everything else: Same as inferno, expect longer fights, and less chances of winning. This isn't a 1v1 class, it is pure utility in mass pvp.

    Dark Vampire
    Considering I play one, and I will go ahead and put up pointers/ the whole part

    Pros: High Burst DPS, great in PvP both Mass and 1v1, TWO 1 second stuns, and 11 second Feast
    Cons: Very Squishy, Very gear based

    Equips: HP, Attack, Dark Mastery, nuff said.
    You can go for a crit build, because of Shadow Scar's two hit, and Dark Ripples bonus 5%, combined with fast cast rates.

    PVP
    Stuns, Feast for 11 seconds, /good game

    Warrior: Proc Vamp before fight, Gale Wings, Stun for 2 seconds with Charmed Strike, 5 hit kill

    Protector: Inferno strategy, Stun => reset charmed strike => stun

    Mage/Bard/Priest: Completely gear based, you need to either outrace heals or damage. Don't trying healing, it is precious time wasted.

    Assassin: Pop feast, attack, snare is 11 seconds, easy kill, if you CD is up for Feast just stun and pray they are badly geared.

    Note: Meh, I could refine what I said. But it is late and I am tired.
  • lorekan
    lorekan Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    2 things, 1 a good vamp should have hp, atk in wep at least, and w/e mastery (inferno needs flame, dark needs dark ofc) , in set def is HELPFUL but ofc hp is prefered.
    the seed of flame hting in blood section was a ****ing error >.>. meant seed of life.
    WTH u mean Inferno isnt powerful and ism ore steady dps? im inferno and dmg wise im hitting easily 1ks 2ks in pvp without crits and with dot involved my dmg is higher. after u use the DPS apply 1x u dont use it again unless ur taking on some long fight.
    Vs warriors? u still run just not far enof to allow stun to be used. isnt that hard to say away from sword but close enof for stun not to work, gale of wings should still be used in a bad situation but yeh i like using it afetr that 1st stun and pop invigor.
    Vs sins? if u can actually bloody heal with ur dark contract u should be able to survive easily till they use that second hide after uve atked them. Most sins cant touch a vamp easily unless u stay still, their atk range is **** and no stun whatsoever.ive kileld sins b4 without losing anymore thn 1-2k hp.
    MM: it actually depends how u start the fight, if ur fast on the button bash u should be able to evil flame curse, seed of flame and evil flame b4 uve lost 1 or 2k in ur hp, im inferno vamp and im VERY sure of that.
    Proc vamp b4 fight: Soz didint hink i had to put that up, doesnt every1 do that alrdy O.O?
    Dark Vampire

    K ima put up that section now thanks for posting
    Give me your name ingame so i can reach u for more info on dark vamps
  • kaiker
    kaiker Posts: 9 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Defense is useless. EX: One defense gem(+10 Def) vs one hp gem(+150)
    For defense to be EQUAL as useful as hp, you need to be hit THIRTY times for it to have reduced as much damaged as you could gain from one hp gem.

    Dark vs Inferno
    Darks have low CD and cast time.
    Inferno has dots.
    For an inferno to do more damage than dark, you need to be fighting for a min of 30secs, for the dots damage to have outraced the dark damage.
    Therefore, Inferno has a stready stream of damage, while Dark comes bursting out of the gate with it.

    As for sins, play against Bladez, Dragedo, Wiked, invertedXIII, or Soly. Any of them can 5-6 shot you. With a 1 second cast time per sin skill, you heals cast(1) + cd(min 1.5) time can't outrace the damage.

    As for warriors, they have roughly the same dps as a Sin currently, a 3 second stun is mostly a win on their part. To get out of range, you need to be a min of 22 yards away. Which is out of anyones attack range. Which is why I suggested staying in the range with Gale Wings, and just out DPSing them, or in the case of Blood out healing.

    Lastly, add high mana drain, to the "Cons" sections of Dark. I can burn myself out in a min. T_T

    As for IGN: Grimmer 40 Vampire Condottieri
  • mahasuke
    mahasuke Posts: 55 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    For one I'm only going to talk about Blood cuz thats all I know. I agree with kaiker on def being useless compared to hp (when I finish testing the value of def in regards to the feast talent I'll get back to you). More HP for Blood specs means higher survivability and dps. I don't agree that a Sin will necessarily out dps the heals tho. Gemming for heals and HP could mean the difference between victory and defeat. Also if you spec far enough down into Fire to get Seeds of Flame you can watch the Sin kill himself and feast on him to prolong the process. Another thing to factor is Vampire mode with enhances everything giving the vamp a dps surge that could tip the scales. Those with Blood/Dark spec could chain stun with charmed strike while Vamp mode lasted giving them a further advantage.
  • salpic
    salpic Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Vey nice guide for vampires. Thanks you
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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  • vergatario
    vergatario Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Hi all Vamps.

    It seems there is no more vampires players in games, cause the guides are out of date for the current lvl cap in CB 3, and there is no more discussion about vampires, what happens with vampires players?

    i think i go for pure inferno Vampire when CB 4 start, but there is not too much info in vampire class discussion to take a final decission. But CB 4 will going to put some light on it for me XD (I hope to be in game).

    I like more to do pve than pvp, but pvp-pkrs are around the corner ever ( :
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • mahasuke
    mahasuke Posts: 55 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    vergatario wrote: »
    Hi all Vamps.

    It seems there is no more vampires players in games, cause the guides are out of date for the current lvl cap in CB 3, and there is no more discussion about vampires, what happens with vampires players?

    i think i go for pure inferno Vampire when CB 4 start, but there is not too much info in vampire class discussion to take a final decission. But CB 4 will going to put some light on it for me XD (I hope to be in game).

    I like more to do pve than pvp, but pvp-pkrs are around the corner ever ( :

    I have seen a lot of vampires in the game, they may choose not to post on the forum.
  • auyong8809
    auyong8809 Posts: 11
    edited February 2011
    lorekan wrote: »
    Dark Vampire
    *Credits to Kaiker*

    Pros:
    High Burst DPS,
    Great in PvP both Mass and 1v1,
    Only class to possess stuns
    TWO 1 second stuns,
    11 second Feast (longest feast possible )

    Cons:
    Very squishy.
    Requires equips to bring out the best in this type.

    Equips:
    Your equips as a dark vampire should be focused on health increase, and attack, dark mastery/attack increase If you can afford it is ur best bet.

    Player Versus Player
    When Fighting, your main skills should always be your stuns a feast lasting 11sec will result in a easily won pvp

    Warrior:
    If stunned use feast and gale wing to heal up, try and get in as many DoTs during feast as possible. I do not advice fighting a warrior with no feast, careful of their slow. Stay close enof to stop em stunning but far enof not to be hit by their sword atk, takes practise but its easy.

    Protector:
    The moment they stun use feast and gale wing to heal up, be careful of their immune so as not to waste your skills when it has no effect. Use Invigoration till it passes, watch out for slow. A good prot will have huge hp so it will take awhile, be careful of their 10 Fury

    Assassin:
    Use feast after their second stealth, be sure to keep up auto atks and DoT to stop them using stealth again, always keep moving. watch out for their slow.

    Mage:
    Race to the Kill. Stun as often as possible
    Bard:
    Same thing with mage, keep up the DoT, keep up the health, watch out for your mp bar and dont let them outlast you.

    This is it Pretty much for the Dark Vampire section.
    Will be updated as more Info is gotten on this section!


    Finnaly i understand abit about dark vampire...hope it can still kill without putting real money on my vamps
  • bloodline122
    bloodline122 Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    do dark/inferno build work liike put like 5 pionts on dark and focused on inferno
  • xaneo
    xaneo Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Im back now so yeh.
  • lorekan
    lorekan Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    oops im Xaneo. wrong acc so yeh im active again :D
    Not Only That But 1st page has been updated too, please look on it briefly.
  • nig2win
    nig2win Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Can u come out with a talent tree chart with inferno and dark? it would be better if u post your talent tree for reference thanks :)
  • kangkongka
    kangkongka Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    this tread i think is very misleading.. inferno vampires are strong. but. dark vamps. are more versatile in pve or pvp.. in fact you can choose both if you want..its to early in the game to have a thread like this.. this game is new.. and so is the talents.. build your way to the top. and make this kind of thread
  • Pheratrix - Lionheart
    Pheratrix - Lionheart Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Neat thread. I'll be contributing soon enough, I'm making DPS Thread sheets.. Gonna' need a few Talent Compasses :P
  • Dominnoe - Eyrda
    Dominnoe - Eyrda Posts: 11 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    I don't know if it is out of date or someone got their facts wrong but the pvp section on dark vamps is highly inaccurate, i can't say much about the other trees though since i don't play them.

    First of all there is a tactic that i like to call flower striking. Basically what you do is once vamp form has activated after a decent length battle you will be using charmed strike. Instead of being Brain dead and spamming charmed strike the moment you enter vamp form you use it in intervals, you use it once right away, then run to gather 2-3 orbs in the opposite direction. Since they aren't normally in a straight line behind him you usually loop to get more than 1, after you gather a couple you use charmed strike again, making a petal. do this 3 or 4 times until you have red hand and the shape you make sort of resembles a flower. It is very useful against Priests Warriors and Protectors. I'll try to post a video or something later on to show you what I'm talking about.

    Dark Vamp:

    Vs. Warrior: A fairly easy kill if you know what you are doing. Kite within the appropriate distance (6-8 meters depending on their build) until vamp form is activated. After that use the strategy described above. Do NOT use bat right away, i cannot stress this enough, save it for when you are getting low on health, the distance you go is longer than the range of Assault so you will get at least 1 heal in. (i think it's about the same range as a Phantom build's Assault)

    Vs. Protector: for non-pvp specced Protectors it isn't that hard of a fight, generally about the same as a warrior, just longer. For a Marble Prot (i think that's the pvp build) you are going to want to activate vamp form immediately. The idea here is to stun them before they stun you. Start off with a stun and throw a seed of darkness on afterwards, charmed strike them again and hope you get lucky with the second stun. If you do use dark ripple for lowered accuracy, and to activate SoD slow (Dark curse auto activates it for those who haven't read the skill) and start kiting, get as far away from them as possible or else they're going to stun lock you till you die.

    Vs. Sin: Hope you know how to kite, if you don't then it's game over, if they have a refined weapon then they'll be taking huge chunks from your hp. You can hope that you don't miss with charmed strike, but if you do then good luck surviving. I'm serious, they're the hardest class for me to beat right now.

    Vs. Mage: Fairly easy kill, just make sure vamp form is activated and use charmed strike whenever they freeze you to make sure they don't get away, once barrier is down it doesn't take but 5 seconds to kill them.

    Vs. Priest: Flower strike, if you don't then they'll just heal what you hit. Get the red hand, Put SoD on them and get four hits to make sure they won't heal and blow a fully stacked Charmed strike on them.

    Vs. Bard: easier than a mage really. They have the same range so they can't kite you, and they don't have a barrier like mages (well water bards do, but it doesn't last long) just dps them to the ground.

    Vs. Marksman: Stay close. It's sort of like a warrior vs. warrior fight where all there is to do is hit fast and hit hard. Use charmed strike also (as always) to stay close if they try to kite or for just spike damage.

    Vs. Vamps: Treat blood vamps the same as Priests, for Inferno i think it's just a dps contest, stun locking never hurt anyone though. Against other darks vamps it's basically who gets vamp form first wins.

    This is from a perspective of 40+, i'll come back and change what i have said once i get higher.
  • Grimmer - Eyrda
    Grimmer - Eyrda Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    I don't know if it is out of date or someone got their facts wrong but the pvp section on dark vamps is highly inaccurate, i can't say much about the other trees though since i don't play them.

    And who are you?

    I will admit that Dark section was terribly written. But in CB 'I' was top Vamp, and a Dark one too. Considering that ALL, literally non-withstanding, current top Vamps in the Eyrda server are in Condotta, were we share all the same tactics, I think my info is a lot more accurate than yours.

    First of all, kiting isn't even possible in FW range values and cast times make it never worth it to kite. And your 'flower striking' is not only a waste of time, but you don't seem to understand the cast time glitch that Charmed Strike provides.

    Vs. Warriors:
    NEVER BAT AWAY, Assault glitches bat EVERY TIME, I've tested this 5 ways to the sun. Bat is to close in before they can pop assault. Proper Dark vamps use it to kill, not to run. We are based around superior damage, not survival. Fighting Warriors is all about player skill regarding timing. A proper Dark Vamp against an equal leveled and geared opponent should be based around out DDing them. Control through Dark Bonds is necessary only when they pop Divine Uphold.
    Tested Against: Peaness, MustAnkh, Elaine, Goncourt

    Vs. Protectors:
    The fact that you think Marble is the PvP tree discredits you completely. Diamond is the PvP tree. Protectors have the highest accuracy of any class, even MM, so your debuff info is completely wrong. Protectors usually try to build up Fury before unleashing a stun lock. During that period you want all your Wrath Kill bebuffs down on them. When it reaches the point in the fight were they will attempt stun lock, you need to pop Invigorate and fly. The stun will catch you mid air but because Protector stuns are glitchy like the warrior's Assault, you can get 'mostly' away. At this point you need to Charmed Strike them to get them to pop their Rocky Protection. Once they do that, just use Dark Bonds, and gg is yours.
    Tested Against: KingOfTheBongo, Wulfgar, BobzeConquerer

    Vs Assassins:
    Sins do mediocre damage compared to a Vamp when they don't have orbs. What you want to do is bat away from their initial position and constantly Invigorate and heal yourself. What you are hoping for is a proc to Vamp form and/or they come out of stealth because they can't reach you. Superior Control through Dark Bonds and CHarmed Strikes should leave you with enough openings to kill a Sin due to their lack of control skills.
    Tested Against: Dragedo, Zyke, Bladez

    Vs Mage:
    Here you are right, pure DPS.
    I found that you can easily dps most mages in 1v1 situations.
    Tested Against: Borsuc(Borsook), Ranker, BetaDudeTwo(Polar)

    Vs Priest:
    Hard-fast Burst Damage, this will force them to use all their heals, do this once or twice while collecting orbs in between. Not to often can you out DPS their heals if they are a 'very good' priest.
    Tested Against: SevenDeuce, Winters

    Vs Bard:
    Not enough info. Bards ARE NOT EASY if they know their class.
    The fact that you think it is easy shows your ignorance and how bad your
    opponents are.
    Tested Against: Chanted

    Vs Marksman:
    This class fell off the face of the planet.
    Ideally, you bat in, they run away, you chase and kill.
    I have no specific tactic here.

    Vs Vampires:
    >_> You figure it out if you haven't already.

    Now, seeing as you have experience only up to your level and not to level 50 and up, I don't think you word is worth much.

    And, seriously, who did you fight of any importance in duels?
    I'm sure my lists of wins is a lot better. Most of whom listed made Top 20 and were
    very well known names in CB.

    Sorry to sound pretentious, but the combination of you calling me outright wrong along with your inherent misunderstanding of how Dark Vamps work just hit me in the wrong place.
  • Dominnoe - Eyrda
    Dominnoe - Eyrda Posts: 11 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Ok, ok I'm sorry. You're right i am a nobody, i'm just speaking from what little experience i have. I don't even know why i wrote anything beyond the first paragraph to be honest, i was tired and groggy at the time from just waking up. I didn't mean to strike a nerve or anything, but the dark section's pvp part makes it sound like we can't survive without feast.
  • slenderjari
    slenderjari Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Ugh the whole thread made me confused now. Im ganna go with hp, mana and umm str. But umm thanks for the headsup.
  • kinsnor
    kinsnor Posts: 70 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Ugh the whole thread made me confused now. Im ganna go with hp, mana and umm str. But umm thanks for the headsup.

    There is no Str by the way. and there are many threads that have better and more up to date info than this one. A quick search/scroll through section should find them. Or just make a new thread and ask.
  • linkalmighty
    linkalmighty Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    So I saw some really intelligent dark vamps here in this thread. I know it is an old thread from CB... but I am still going to post this in hopes that I can get SOME feedback on it. I'm a level 47 inferno vamp that is going dark. I have my talent compass and am going to be converting to dark once I get my dark mastery offhand.

    After ruling out only the most important skills (up to lvl 47) based around a vamp form+cstrike dark build, I put them all on the talent tree calculator you all to see. I'll post the link below.

    http://fw.perfectworld.com/talentcalc?cls=vampire&r=kin&b=t2a13a25b12b22c14c22d13d25e22

    Give some feedback if you see this please! :) I followed this guild and tried to pick the most important skills I could at my current level.

    There's some I left out like the increase in time for feast, mostly because feast has a 300s cooldown and I dont want to spend good talent points on a skill I can only use every 5 mins when I could be using it on stuns/heals.

    This is just a general direction of where I'm headed in the future. I do not plan on being maxed for I do have a life and know how much time it would consume xD I'll give it a shot, but I don't see the point on making a build that goes to level 80 for that is a LONG time away. This build is for level 56 and has, what I think, is the most important talent skills up to level 56 for dark vamps.

    http://fw.perfectworld.com/talentcalc?cls=vampire&r=kin&b=t2a15a25b12b22c14c22d13d25e14e22g12h21

    Please give me feedback! :DDD I love my vamp but haven't been dark, so I am not as familiar with the best talents to get.
  • kingkevo7878
    kingkevo7878 Posts: 21 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    i look for a guide and all i see is people saying this is better then that at pvp... this isnt a guide at all this is just an opinion.. though most can say that about any guide... but to me... a guide is........

    List of skills
    List of preferable armor/weapons



    but most important

    a discussion on which skills are good which are useless which should be upgraded and how much..... these are important issues....


    not inferno vamp is good vs this class vs dark or blood...

    give some background info PLEASE.... tell me WHY this character is good ... what skills/equipment is good for this class ect ect

    as for that dark vamp skill tree link... it doesnt work
  • Luciferia - Illyfue
    Luciferia - Illyfue Posts: 3,982 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    i look for a guide and all i see is people saying this is better then that at pvp... this isnt a guide at all this is just an opinion.. though most can say that about any guide... but to me... a guide is........

    List of skills
    List of preferable armor/weapons



    but most important

    a discussion on which skills are good which are useless which should be upgraded and how much..... these are important issues....


    not inferno vamp is good vs this class vs dark or blood...

    give some background info PLEASE.... tell me WHY this character is good ... what skills/equipment is good for this class ect ect

    as for that dark vamp skill tree link... it doesnt work

    The guide is half a year old... I doubt the writer is still in the game, not to mention that there have been a ton new skills/talents/skill balances since then, so it's outdated... read the stickie for a newer and better guide...

    As, for the tree links... the page is down a month now so it's not a surprise...
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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