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unusualsuspect1
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I had made a long post explaining it, but it seems it got removed by the admins. I'll keep this short and sweet, to see if it lives any longer.
FW is sorely in need of some trade gold injection. Casher's cannot get gold through any means other than the mega expensive 20 leaves for a single merc statue, which puts the leaf for gold exchange rate at a low point that I've not seen in my 5 years in the game.
Casher's can't get gold, farmers can't get gold (because the cashers don't have gold to spend to buy their stuff). Just 4D will see someone make the top 500 wealth list on Lionheart, and half of those characters on that list don't even play any more. There's a handful of characters with a significant amount of gold, but for the rest, they're only managing or short.
We need a merc pack sale, or orbs with gold in them, or something. Advancing characters costs gold, and the end game instances all demand for fairly mature well specced characters. If the majority can't get gold, then the game will die.
Prices of goods are in near total free-fall on Lionheart server, but the costs required to advance a character hasn't changed. Re-IDs, Fusion Agents, mastery/resists, rune making, relic spirit making, anima training (beyond a certain point) all cost gold, gold that is increasingly hard to come by.
This is frustrating those players who wish to participate in end-game instances, but cannot, due to lack of ways to obtain gold.
FW is sorely in need of some trade gold injection. Casher's cannot get gold through any means other than the mega expensive 20 leaves for a single merc statue, which puts the leaf for gold exchange rate at a low point that I've not seen in my 5 years in the game.
Casher's can't get gold, farmers can't get gold (because the cashers don't have gold to spend to buy their stuff). Just 4D will see someone make the top 500 wealth list on Lionheart, and half of those characters on that list don't even play any more. There's a handful of characters with a significant amount of gold, but for the rest, they're only managing or short.
We need a merc pack sale, or orbs with gold in them, or something. Advancing characters costs gold, and the end game instances all demand for fairly mature well specced characters. If the majority can't get gold, then the game will die.
Prices of goods are in near total free-fall on Lionheart server, but the costs required to advance a character hasn't changed. Re-IDs, Fusion Agents, mastery/resists, rune making, relic spirit making, anima training (beyond a certain point) all cost gold, gold that is increasingly hard to come by.
This is frustrating those players who wish to participate in end-game instances, but cannot, due to lack of ways to obtain gold.
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But if it's only Lionheart, you can transfer to Storm, Leaves bid and sell 1g all the time, cashers and farmers are fine here ;D
Maybe at Storm the leaf buyers haven't yet lost faith that there'll be good orbs again soon, or maybe there's still a lot of gold swimming about. On Lionheart, it's clearly starting to dry up as evidenced in the wealth list (except for a handful of stupendously wealthy individuals, half of which don't even play any more).
Even a decent sale of Merc Packs for 20 leaves each (15 leaves would be truly nice) would stabilise the economy again for a while.
Seeing FCs sell for under 60g now, Ragefire 1's for under 1g, Devirocks for as low as 3D. The only gems that have sustained any form of value are the Crystallines, which IMO are still overpriced, but also linked to those being the only really effective gems to level Divine Wing Charge yet. I am not confident that anyone is actually buying those either. People simply aren't buying gems because they can't afford to combine them.
our rune market is completely dead, you cannot get runes from botting any more only ghostfang on Wednesday or using ode pts, its nearly impossible to get some mediocre runes for all the inheritorss because there is no supply besides crappy orbs.
anole doesn't care because he "tried to give fw players a nice gold login event (merc packs during anniversary) but players just exploited it" so he could care less about that front. nevermind the fact that people are so desperate for gold they have to abuse free gifts just to get a decent amount should speak loud enough but pwe doesn't have common sense.
'I had a dream that I was one, that became two, that became one again.
I looked through my dark half's eyes and knew, the hunt must end.
Now we shall see...what lies at the dream's end.' UrVa, the Archer
In short, it's becoming a struggle, and it shouldn't have to be that way.
Problem is that there won't be a cow left to milk if it starves for what it needs to stay alive.
There's only about 2-3 truly die-hard whale CSers left on Lionheart that can be seen popping orbs fairly frequently across their alt toons. There's about 5 or so moderate CSers, and about 20 other low-end CSers. The whales are still progressing because they have enough money to throw at exorbitantly priced orbs that give quite little in reality, but they obtain so much that they still get enough of what little gold there is left by selling to the few that are still buying on dwindling reserves.
I know of many players (a few of them are truly big spenders at that) who would like to spend some/more money to advance their characters, but since there's simply nothing of good value in the boutique, and simply no gold to work with, so they've stopped spending almost entirely while waiting for PWE management to wake up and realise that the economy is in trouble.
Those players are getting bored waiting, and are already starting to look elsewhere at other non-PWE titles. These are guys who have been around forever that I thought would never look elsewhere, but they are now.
If something isn't done soon, that cow won't have any milk left to give, or its milk output is going to be severely reduced through sheer neglect.
And actually there's godzillions d's in game, but sadly are all in the hand od few whales and haxxor/exploiters (can remind you the one we got in illy that made like 300 d's A DAY for months? dunno if he's still there since i dont play much anymore but prolly seen now flames was at 30G haha), wealth rank mean a whole fking ZERO seen the tons of D's ppls hide on exchange lol.
Not sure what's gonna help a mercury pack in CS other than giving more golds to already endgame whales that dont need anything but uber stuff (like immo runes and so) and isnt gonna "help the economy" at all lmao, maybe you meant a login event with ms's.
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The Twitter account is pretty new, but we will be using it. We have been promoting the game on Facebook, more than some of our other games even.
...and yes, a decently priced (read NOT 30 leaves, but 15, 18, or 20 leaves) Merc Pack sale would help all those low/moderate CSers who are starved for cash that is preventing their advancing. Failing that, Polystone Orbs, or something similar.
All the gold tied up in on whale cs/exploit accounts in the exchange doesn't mean a thing, and doesn't help anyone, if it isn't flowing to those that need the gold.
Seriously, if you think the main issue is just the lack of gold income...
Let the banhammer come to exploiters, brings us tons of ingame events with active GMs playing those with us, reward our loyalty with something more than just NOTHING, fix bugs and OVERALL TAKE CARE OF YOUR DAMN GAME!
A whale would cash regardless: if (s)he doesn't play anymore it's either found another game or bored of lack of any interesting event (like Arena with some competition, for example).
All that's being asked here is to give PWE ideas on what would actually make both the player base slightly happier, while earning PWE some more money as well. If they can't even be bothered to do that, then what's the point of them even continuing this charade?
I'd love to aim for the stars here, but we all know that's never going to happen...
i csed lots i dont regret it, i had fun, but now? i understand its how game lives blabla, but this is ridiculous for the lack of quality of product, its like going into supermarket and buying an already expired yoghurt and eat it,you wasted your money and got sick from it, fw makes me sick everytime i log so its an expired yoghurt, no offense ofc.
For the ppl asking for arena to be fixed like myself, most of you will be dodged by the ones that want gear, or you will end up feeding your friends or getting feed each other score to help, cause lets face it there is not enough ppl for real queues, or they are dodging you, and some are willing to wait for 4 am to do it how big the despair is, you cant have real pvp in this p2w game.
This is the true, keep hiding it with those amazing events to create activity if you want, from me you will get nothing. I log for my guild and raid, thats all, dont need supersayian powers for showing off im the badass kido in the npctown or smtg, i need FUN, and that starts with even the coin chances.
'I had a dream that I was one, that became two, that became one again.
I looked through my dark half's eyes and knew, the hunt must end.
Now we shall see...what lies at the dream's end.' UrVa, the Archer
"BookerDewit: Blood Warrior"
I think part of the problem is that the boutique is so out of whack with leaf costs. Many items are priced 500% to 2000% higher than their in-game value. Management, not being players themselves looks at that 50 leaf item....hmmm 30 leaf this week they'll love that. Except in game its of much lower value like 5 gold (for 30g worth of leaf). The boutique prices need reevaluation.
If you ask me. Merc packs should permanently be priced at 15 gold per pack with periodic sales (every 3 to 6 months) with them priced down to 10-12 leaf per pack.
Is there really no way for management team to see the Boutique sales data for the week? If your sale sold 0 items than its obviously either not a desired item or grossly overpriced. If an item sells 500,000 units its probably too cheap. Find a balance maybe?
The population is declining because... 1.) Things aren't getting fixed, 2.) The economy is starved for gold and so people can't advance their characters, 3.) There is no advertising for this game. Some people will quit for reasons. If there isn't new blood the population goes poof.
Banner ads are cheap. Something like 50 cents per 1000 clicks I think. If we could get one on a Gaming site that'd be easily paid back in new CSers.
Get someone with many followers on Twitch.tv to stream playing a decently geared character. People get excited and will try FW.
Why aren't there any promotional videos for FW to share on social media? I think it's too big of an endeavor to task people for some contest, but if we could create a 60-90sec trailer to showcase things like Arena, Raids, Fashion, and Wings. I think if well edited it could pull in many people. Personally with the current state of the game, I feel too guilty to ask friends to join me. WoW is still the most popular MMO last I checked. At its best I like Forsaken World more than WoW and many of their players are looking for alternatives. Unfortunately at its worst its an abyss of despair and neglect for months. I've said before that this game could be amazing under management of a better company. It's not too late to turn it around.
Cliffs:
Boutique prices are overpriced
People need gold
Fix glitches
Get new players to try Forsaken World
Yes, the boutique prices need to be looked at too, but that's been said for 5+ years now, with no changes to date.
IMO, a fair leaf exchange rate give the sorts of orbs we've had in the last 2+ years, would be 1 leaf for 75s. Based upon that:
1 Merc Statue for 7 leaves
10 x Merc State Pack for 60 leaves
Fusion Agent 1 for 7 leaves, FA2 for 14 leaves, FA3 for 21 leaves
Paragon Pack for 2 leaves
Paragon Pack x 10 for 18 leaves
Everything else in Boutique price adjusted to reflect the in-game prices at a exchange rate of 1 leaf for 75s
These are all reasonable suggestions that would go a long way to saving the current state of the economy, plus reviving the game when bringing in lolnotyfg's suggestions.
Sadly, I am not optimistic that any of it will happen. It really feels like upper PWE management are utterly blind to doing anything reasonable for both this game, and themselves to profit from it as a result.
ALL OLD ORBS (ie. Pandora) - 10L
1day warlord / battlefield cards - 20L
7day warlord / battlefield / VIP cards - 100L
Life/Mana Serums - 25L
Seraphic Weapon - 40L
Action scrolls - 10L
Perfect Spacetime Sphere - 100L
Talent Compass - 40L
Wisdom Fruit - 20L
Anima x1 - 4L
Anima x100 - 300L
Anima Shard - 2L
Dropping to these prices merely brings sensibility to the CS. Prices are still often cheaper in the Auction House, but at least this makes the boutique an option if the AH were to be cleaned out. And should there be a SALE from this price point, there would even be INCENTIVE to bring new money to the game.
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