RCExpert....what's the deal

mistressofsnow · January 2016

Is anyone else having a ungodly hard time in RCE? Is it broke? What? Because so far everyone I've spoken to say the same thing: Crazy and impossible.... which is basically **** alot of us out of our daily Chall today!

thenamesdomino · January 2016

Well it is Expert Mode. Things are tougher now. If it was just as easy as it ever was, then life would get very boring very fast.

mistressofsnow · January 2016

But it gives us 3 options of difficulty and even when we choose easy just to see what it's all about it's saying we clicked option 3 instead of the first one lol...

lcorndogl · January 2016

mistressofsnow said:
But it gives us 3 options of difficulty and even when we choose easy just to see what it's all about it's saying we clicked option 3 instead of the first one lol...

This

Also - manual entrance does 12k damage from a mob instead of 8k (rank 3 was the 8k one, manual 50% more difficult?!?)

ridiculous1 · January 2016

Cool it's how it was supposed to be, Domino, try running it, and then buy back 7 day hero cards

darkseed · January 2016

RCI:E (Easy) should be roughly as difficult as Sickle Island and Elemental Shrine (Easy) were when the 80 level cap was first lifted to 90. But this seems like it's giving us some sort of hard mode even when easy is selected. The instances are not complete-able for the majority of the playerbase who had been 90 for a long time and geared up. In response to Domino, the "very boring very fast" remedy was the fast that it can also have normal and hard modes. Easy mode should not be as hard as it is, which makes me believe that the difficulty selection is broken.

mistressofsnow · January 2016

Exactly Darkseed. And now come to find out 12's is broke thus our battlefield cards are being wasted... what's gonna be done about that if anything =/

midnighthaley · January 2016

I like it. I wiped three times on a boss earlier today, never had so much fun in a PVE instance before. Finally there's an actual challenge. Unfortunately, it'll end up being a faceroll once we level and get new gear, so all you complainers will end up being happy in the end.

ashidvren · January 2016

Finished RCIE with a group around 1730 server on Storm. Started With Wind Reaper, Venom Sin, Light Bard, Divine Priest, Wind Bard, and me Edge Sin.

After a few wipes Priest bailed on us right before final boss, so I brought in my light bard alt to finish it...FYI the entrance to Bottomless Inferno is listed as Hell Road LVL3....don't you believe it...not sure what the actual difficulty was. But yeah it said we chose #3 as well.

Before going to bosses make sure you kill ALL the trash mobs as some bosses like to run. Last Boss has 10k per second fire that slowly moves or shifts and frontal flamethrower. We chose the outheal it option and tanked/spanked it. On the boulder run back up the slide make use of the side edges to avoid the stunning boulders coming down. Best of luck to everyone!

Bienvenu,
~Sorrow

putki · January 2016

Last boss's name is Hell Road LV3: Boss 1 xD

I enjoy play new rci runs, finally some not too easy in pve, we get wiped few times too but its totally beatable with ~100k hp on easy mode which anyone got with +12 lv88 champ set. Medium is prolly meant for lv95 and hard 100lvl, prolly op parties already beat them too?

yosias · January 2016

i wouldn't complain if the dam easy mode wasn't broken or set to lvl 3
seriously, is this intensional to be this hard to beat?
or by chosing lvl 1 the game get angry at us and set it to lvl 3 out of spite?

azariel13 · January 2016

Although the difficulty does seem to be glitched, it appears to be set to easy as default if you simply don't bother changing it at the NPC.
Is it decently hard atm? Yes, but that's exactly how it should be, I think its wonderful to have a non-raid instance again that actually requires healing and once people get into 95 gear it'll be dramatically easier.

ridiculous1 · January 2016

I need to restate my opinion, glad a few players find this fun. I have yet to speak to anyone who has completed it yet on the server. Real life can be challenging enough, trust me. A game is an escape from that. When the game ceases to be fun, or becomes impossible its time to move on. The majority of the playerbase can't complete this. there IS a problem.
Boring, no, frustrating yes. Guess what will drive players away faster?

jazerk · January 2016

People wont even let you join a party unles you ave 100 HP. This patch is messed up bi time!

jhereg4250 · January 2016

I don't think it is glitched at all. I think the mobs are set to lvl 95 or higher, so a lvl 90 party would have it's DPS nerfed while the boss's damage would be boosted. Once we get toward lvl 95 and the game does not restrict you it should be ok.

rsydakota · January 2016

Really? guys? You do realize that even the mobs are a higher lv than you rn and youre complaining that it is hard? Wait until youre 95 with new gear if it is to hard now... We went in there with a light bard and divine and a lot of dps and had a hard time... but we expected it to be hard xD Give it time and it wont be hard as it is now...

mistressofsnow · January 2016

What is being complained about is the fact that EVERY DAY we get these RCE's for CHALLENGE quest which means bam there goes our champ points (dbl champ for those of us running a Hero Card.)

chiffoncake · January 2016

Back in the day when I bot SI at lv80, wiped. Same here, I bot first wave of RCIE bosses (two) at lv90 pretty tough, now lv91 abit easier at first wave but wiped at 2nd wave (I think that boss(war) slash storm us to dead lol), so I assume I can bot easily when I level up more and get few upgrade from new patch (champ set or other stuff). Thank you FW, so far a lot of fun stuff with this new patch ,GJ!!!

mistressofsnow · January 2016

Lol, I dont remember the parties I ran Sickle Island with ever having this hard of a time. And there was some squishies in some of them first parties.

edira · January 2016

mistressofsnow wrote: »

What is being complained about is the fact that EVERY DAY we get these RCE's for CHALLENGE quest which means bam there goes our champ points (dbl champ for those of us running a Hero Card.)

This....

If the instance is for lv95+ chars it shouldn't have been forced per challenge quest on chars below 95....

mistressofsnow · January 2016

Exactly Edira

jazerk · January 2016

chiffoncake said:
Back in the day when I bot SI at lv80, wiped. Same here, I bot first wave of RCIE bosses (two) at lv90 pretty tough, now lv91 abit easier at first wave but wiped at 2nd wave (I think that boss(war) slash storm us to dead lol), so I assume I can bot easily when I level up more and get few upgrade from new patch (champ set or other stuff). Thank you FW, so far a lot of fun stuff with this new patch ,GJ!!!

It takes champ points to upgrade your gear. SO if you get the challenge quest every day for that RCIE NO champ points for that

unusualsuspect1 · January 2016

Yay, no more snooze and drool!!

My g/f on her glacial priest, and myself on my MM, have been able to duo tank pretty much everything ERC has thrown at us even after the rest of the party (including the dedicated healer) has died.

I'm guessing that many have gotten used to tank and spank runs, and aren't prepared for the need to run and think on one's feet and adapt strategies as the battles unfold.

If an, albeit fairly strong, glacial priest and MM can duo pretty much every boss fight at present without additional assistance, then all it really takes is a full party of people who are thinking on their feet instead of shift-z and snoozing.

We've slowly gotten to know people who despite even not being amazingly geared, will still contribute, cos they don't stand about in effects until dying. They also have a good time with the challenge of it.

That, at least to my eye, seems to be the key here. You can't bot heal. You can't stand and shoot. You DO have to watch what's going on.

That, to me, is what's made the game fun again.

shirayukihime · January 2016

Can u guys pls tell me how can we kill second boss from first try? At pull all run like in tod? Any secret? And anyone got anythig else (after wipe) besides huge spider dat stuns and aoe and ivenia with his fire?

gitshrekt · January 2016

If you talk about bottomless inferno
1. boss can be dragon / khnum / sickle first boss axe guy
2. boss got an aoe around him so try to stay out of it or run out asap and idk my parties stood in a circle cos boss can lazer pets too = won't lazer person and we stood still in that way <
3. last booss just avoid fire behind boss don't go to boulders cos they stun + burn 3k I think
tbh outhealing the lazer is easier in there than tod but that's only my opinion.

application · January 2016

I ran the rce the other day and found it to be easy, we need more of these. I like having the mobs hit like a boss!

infamous628 · January 2016

gitshrekt#8600 said:
If you talk about bottomless inferno
1. boss can be dragon / khnum / sickle first boss axe guy
2. boss got an aoe around him so try to stay out of it or run out asap and idk my parties stood in a circle cos boss can lazer pets too = won't lazer person and we stood still in that way <
3. last booss just avoid fire behind boss don't go to boulders cos they stun + burn 3k I think
tbh outhealing the lazer is easier in there than tod but that's only my opinion.

Boss can be either version of Khnum, the one from HR or the one from ToD.

motorstrom67 · January 2016

To be honest I think over all if the party cap was increased it would be a bit easier for all who want to run a RCIE and only just for RCIE like with every other instance 6player party is fine but once you go do a RCIE instead of 6players maybe 8-12 would be better over all. Cause even a RCIE feels like a ESNM or even a ESHM to be honest and thoses are parties with more then 12players in them.

shirayukihime · January 2016

Ty for answers guys ^^

Ps: i love how at the end of rcie my hand hurts from healing... no more boring bot ^^

RCExpert....what's the deal

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