So... lets talk about drop rates.

Bhyl - Lionheart
Bhyl - Lionheart Posts: 410 Arc User
edited September 2014 in General Discussion
The Maint thead is not for this discussion, so lets start a new one.

Following this week's maintenance, you'll find a new server wide modifier enabled for everyone.. 2x drop rate! Everything will have double their drop % chance for items. Along with it, the territory maps will be reset and will be refreshed every 6 months.



The economy is going to be in for a shock, there is no doubt about it. Prices on certain items WILL drop.

More rune drop - more lv5 runes, the price will come down for the "meh" ones. But there will be a higher chance, from more combining happening, for those super rare "once a year" ones.

Looking at the good things - Flame crystals & magic rock dusts. From this modifier we should see an increase in rate, meaning the cost & grind to getting legendary gear in theory should be easier. I am hoping this also effects devirocks.

More star crystals... wonder what the drops from wades/DDT will look like once it's updated?

I have more thoughts, good and bad, but this is only my first ones, lets have a discussion.
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  • shadrim
    shadrim Posts: 1,040 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Economy wise i would not believe it has such a big impact. Mere droprates will neither affect the quality of drops nor the quality of outcomes of processing and upgrade mechanics like rune merging or (re)identing so i dont really see a big impact there.
    Doubled droprate for the rare items will also not automatically mean double drops but - if anything is visible at all - a slight improvement at best.
    Two times 0.00001% is not really much better. ;)

    I have no idea if pet souls are something droprate related or if a drop rate augmentation will modify things that spawn automatically in your inventory.

    Anyhow i think this will stir up some bad mood, as almost everyone will expect way better drop rates for the things he is hunting for than this thing will give.

    The games "random" system as well as the publisher and devs alike have a bad enough reputation already. Tampering with a huge part of the so called "luck" in such a situation is not a wise idea IMHO.
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  • _Avenger_ - Eyrda
    _Avenger_ - Eyrda Posts: 312 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    The Maint thead is not for this discussion, so lets start a new one.




    The economy is going to be in for a shock, there is no doubt about it. Prices on certain items WILL drop.

    More rune drop - more lv5 runes, the price will come down for the "meh" ones. But there will be a higher chance, from more combining happening, for those super rare "once a year" ones.

    Looking at the good things - Flame crystals & magic rock dusts. From this modifier we should see an increase in rate, meaning the cost & grind to getting legendary gear in theory should be easier. I am hoping this also effects devirocks.

    More star crystals... wonder what the drops from wades/DDT will look like once it's updated?

    I have more thoughts, good and bad, but this is only my first ones, lets have a discussion.

    legendary gear si still imposible n will remain imposible, its been over a year and no1 has a single gold ring, the max raids for dragons n ESNM n HM per week in eyrda is like maybe 12 at max counting all guild n the whole week, n they dont drop those occasionally, its rly a rare care when u see em so even with the x2 drop i dont think we will ever get those gears.

    x2 drop rate how exactly affects this game? since there is a few small things that u can farm, ores, plants ect, mobs dont rly drop anythign valueable, maybe 1 star crystal after long hours of botting, wbs are only alloed to drop 1 thing at the time they r killed so x2 drop rate wouldnt help at all cos they will just drop either 1 flux or a chest, is not like other games that mobs + wbs drops multiple loots n has a good chance to drop extra loots of the same so when there is a x2 drop event or w.e they willl have a 100% chance to get the extra loot cos of the x2 drop rate, gale wont eb affected by this cos ive never seen ppl getting 4 boxes or having a chance to get an extra gem box, weekly events like **, x2 drop rate wont, the reward is either 1 lv85 purple or 3-4 blue dark parchs.
  • Bhyl - Lionheart
    Bhyl - Lionheart Posts: 410 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    legendary gear si still imposible n will remain imposible, its been over a year and no1 has a single gold ring, the max raids for dragons n ESNM n HM per week in eyrda is like maybe 12 at max counting all guild n the whole week, n they dont drop those occasionally, its rly a rare care when u see em so even with the x2 drop i dont think we will ever get those gears.

    Just a couple of questions, 12 runs total or 12 runs for each instance? If the drop rates on things such as flame crystals were noticeably different do you think more people would run the instances?
  • miciociccio
    miciociccio Posts: 642 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    The Maint thead is not for this discussion, so lets start a new one.




    The economy is going to be in for a shock, there is no doubt about it. Prices on certain items WILL drop.

    More rune drop - more lv5 runes, the price will come down for the "meh" ones. But there will be a higher chance, from more combining happening, for those super rare "once a year" ones.

    Looking at the good things - Flame crystals & magic rock dusts. From this modifier we should see an increase in rate, meaning the cost & grind to getting legendary gear in theory should be easier. I am hoping this also effects devirocks.

    More star crystals... wonder what the drops from wades/DDT will look like once it's updated?

    I have more thoughts, good and bad, but this is only my first ones, lets have a discussion.

    Flame Crystal maybe but devirocks? you get those from a quest not Killing mobs/bosses so wont change.

    Same for Zod bosses and anything else that got fixed drop.

    Runes dunno , actually in illyfue almost no one seem botherign anymore with them? used to be 2 or even 3 pages in ah back then, now barely 1.

    Wb, the 85 ones drop fixed items, 1 chest/flux and 3 piece of gear, so will be only easier for them to drop purp maybe.

    Wade is kind alike the wb, it Always drop 1/4 tokens, maybe there will be more chance for highe rnumber but dunno, as "good" side you will get more skill scrolls to trash :3

    Scs from botting dont really affect anything seen you can get with sl anyway now, getting 2 in place of one a night is lol.

    Thb that sound a lot like a big smoke in the eyes, hell, anyone ever seen a single blue drop from mobs in isles? (mobs not bosses) i didnt so making 0% chance x2 dont change much :P

    As a good side you maybe will get 2 or even 3 Honor coins a night so you can slack a bit more, that is :P

    So tbh i dont see where to shock is, more shock will be when we get those osom cs pots for 15% cc 15% attackl and 15% dodge rofl (time to afk Whole time in pvp and do hr up to 30 only :P).

    Scorpioluca
  • Bhyl - Lionheart
    Bhyl - Lionheart Posts: 410 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    I am really hoping it effects devirock, but I wasn't sure because of how it is obtained, what will effect devirock is magic rock dusts. Hopefully we will see them more than once in a blue moon when killing dragons.

    Thb that sound a lot like a big smoke in the eyes, hell, anyone ever seen a single blue drop from mobs in isles? (mobs not bosses) i didnt so making 0% chance x2 dont change much :P

    As a good side you maybe will get 2 or even 3 Honor coins a night so you can slack a bit more, that is :P

    I just remembered about the footprint drops from those mobs... They are bad enough already

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  • miciociccio
    miciociccio Posts: 642 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    I am really hoping it effects devirock, but I wasn't sure because of how it is obtained, what will effect devirock is magic rock dusts. Hopefully we will see them more than once in a blue moon when killing dragons.



    I just remembered about the footprint drops from those mobs... They are bad enough already

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    You mean from isles? i got them all and i dont both anymore from ages... took me like 30 mins get last 2 i noticed was mising, (from ghosts and wind elemental) but well you got a point here though, easier get rare cards from wb and cracked :3

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  • Mythrarin - Lionheart
    Mythrarin - Lionheart Posts: 72 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    legendary gear si still imposible n will remain imposible, its been over a year and no1 has a single gold ring, the max raids for dragons n ESNM n HM per week in eyrda is like maybe 12 at max counting all guild n the whole week, n they dont drop those occasionally, its rly a rare care when u see em so even with the x2 drop i dont think we will ever get those gears.

    x2 drop rate how exactly affects this game? since there is a few small things that u can farm, ores, plants ect, mobs dont rly drop anythign valueable, maybe 1 star crystal after long hours of botting, wbs are only alloed to drop 1 thing at the time they r killed so x2 drop rate wouldnt help at all cos they will just drop either 1 flux or a chest, is not like other games that mobs + wbs drops multiple loots n has a good chance to drop extra loots of the same so when there is a x2 drop event or w.e they willl have a 100% chance to get the extra loot cos of the x2 drop rate, gale wont eb affected by this cos ive never seen ppl getting 4 boxes or having a chance to get an extra gem box, weekly events like **, x2 drop rate wont, the reward is either 1 lv85 purple or 3-4 blue dark parchs.

    gonna stamp this in the dirt real fast, if i remember correctly VelvetStrike has 1 of those
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  • BlackLuster - Eyrda
    BlackLuster - Eyrda Posts: 495 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    legendary gear si still imposible n will remain imposible, its been over a year and no1 has a single gold ring, the max raids for dragons n ESNM n HM per week in eyrda is like maybe 12 at max counting all guild n the whole week, n they dont drop those occasionally, its rly a rare care when u see em so even with the x2 drop i dont think we will ever get those gears.

    x2 drop rate how exactly affects this game? since there is a few small things that u can farm, ores, plants ect, mobs dont rly drop anythign valueable, maybe 1 star crystal after long hours of botting, wbs are only alloed to drop 1 thing at the time they r killed so x2 drop rate wouldnt help at all cos they will just drop either 1 flux or a chest, is not like other games that mobs + wbs drops multiple loots n has a good chance to drop extra loots of the same so when there is a x2 drop event or w.e they willl have a 100% chance to get the extra loot cos of the x2 drop rate, gale wont eb affected by this cos ive never seen ppl getting 4 boxes or having a chance to get an extra gem box, weekly events like **, x2 drop rate wont, the reward is either 1 lv85 purple or 3-4 blue dark parchs.

    Over 100 flame crystal on the server now. But I doubt anybody on Eyrda will have any interested of buying them. Maybe DT who else I don't know. Most people just collect them maybe hope getting 100 one day. I have 6 in my bank since nobody buying them.
  • Sephmeister - Eyrda
    Sephmeister - Eyrda Posts: 1,249 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    gonna stamp this in the dirt real fast, if i remember correctly VelvetStrike has 1 of those

    VelvetStrike has only one of those and i doubt he is going for the complete set due to the ridiculous numbers on our game version. BigGuns could be going for a part too but come on.. This is ridiculous.. on our version... :s
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  • nihooya
    nihooya Posts: 607 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    VelvetStrike has only one of those and i doubt he is going for the complete set due to the ridiculous numbers on our game version. BigGuns could be going for a part too but come on.. This is ridiculous.. on our version... :s

    VS said sometime ago he want only this one with cd
  • DoomRaven - Storm Legion
    DoomRaven - Storm Legion Posts: 829 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    By the time someone manages to gather many for the level 75 set, there will either be a lvl 95 set or 100, or the game will be closed.
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  • Brim_McRoy - Eyrda
    Brim_McRoy - Eyrda Posts: 3,047 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    can anyone even confirm the drop rate works casue ive botted as long as i usually do and only got 1/5th of the gems and not even a foot print but im in the brown for exhaustion
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  • Rothj - Eyrda
    Rothj - Eyrda Posts: 474 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    So all monsters have x2 drops, or so it seems based off the red text in game. What is beneficial from this?
  • Brim_McRoy - Eyrda
    Brim_McRoy - Eyrda Posts: 3,047 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    So all monsters have x2 drops, or so it seems based off the red text in game. What is beneficial from this?

    better question... does it even freaking work?
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  • blazder
    blazder Posts: 295 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Well i feel like i got a couple more pots to drop while botting.
  • _Avenger_ - Eyrda
    _Avenger_ - Eyrda Posts: 312 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Just a couple of questions, 12 runs total or 12 runs for each instance? If the drop rates on things such as flame crystals were noticeably different do you think more people would run the instances?

    12 total runs ESNM+HM+dragosn combined but its decreasing slowly, ic see less ppl running anything nowdays, i got myself 47 crystals i havent rly been much into buying em but thats not the point, lv78 gold rings will be trash next patch cos you cant fortify them, only the 85s ones n 12s 85s just the gem amplifier will give you more stats than what a whole set of 78 gold rings gives u + the attack n hp ect, but as the guy above stated, devirock shards wont be affected because its a quest reward not a mob.
  • Bhyl - Lionheart
    Bhyl - Lionheart Posts: 410 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    It looks like the drop rate buff isn't on, Nyxa has asked DoD to look at it so here's hoping it's fixed soon.

    Botted over night, 14 lv1 runes 2 honour coin on 12k kills. IMO no change.
    DT2 last night, elite beard, tail and 2 gear pieces dropped.

    No one has noticed increased drop from WBs either at this point.
  • Brim_McRoy - Eyrda
    Brim_McRoy - Eyrda Posts: 3,047 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    It looks like the drop rate buff isn't on, Nyxa has asked DoD to look at it so here's hoping it's fixed soon.

    Botted over night, 14 lv1 runes 2 honour coin on 12k kills. IMO no change.
    DT2 last night, elite beard, tail and 2 gear pieces dropped.

    No one has noticed increased drop from WBs either at this point.

    looks at news page, looks at brim botting, yeah they just turned it on i have runes in places there shouldnt be
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  • Shapelle - Lionheart
    Shapelle - Lionheart Posts: 250 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    So, let's sum this up. Maintenance was delayed for a patch, so no timely reset so no EB spawns happened (AGAIN). Then, rather than maintenance happening when it was said, there was a 5 minute advance forum post update, and the servers thrown into sudden maintenance, leaving all of those who were running stuff in total surprise (I was on the 2nd last boss of Sickle when the 4 minute WC notification hit), and we had the final boss on its way down when the servers shut down. Then, after the servers restarted, and we're all now seeing WC notifications about a 2x drop rate, we discover that this actually isn't even working at all, and no fashion table updates, and the Guild War map reset never happened. Oh, and plenty of people complaining about not receiving charge rewards either.


    So, basically, it's been a fail, after a fail, after a fail, after a fail, after a fail, in the space of two days.

    I wanted to spend some money, I have some money to spend, but really, I don't feel like it. I've lost all trust. There needs to be some serious acts of goodwill to restore the player base trust and morale again, 'cos right now, I see my friends leaving the game in droves (3 Earl level CS'ers I know quit the game for good this week, and believe me, they are GONE for good), and really, can ANYONE blame them?
  • _Avenger_ - Eyrda
    _Avenger_ - Eyrda Posts: 312 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    So, let's sum this up. Maintenance was delayed for a patch, so no timely reset so no EB spawns happened (AGAIN). Then, rather than maintenance happening when it was said, there was a 5 minute advance forum post update, and the servers thrown into sudden maintenance, leaving all of those who were running stuff in total surprise (I was on the 2nd last boss of Sickle when the 4 minute WC notification hit), and we had the final boss on its way down when the servers shut down. Then, after the servers restarted, and we're all now seeing WC notifications about a 2x drop rate, we discover that this actually isn't even working at all, and no fashion table updates, and the Guild War map reset never happened. Oh, and plenty of people complaining about not receiving charge rewards either.


    So, basically, it's been a fail, after a fail, after a fail, after a fail, after a fail, in the space of two days.

    I wanted to spend some money, I have some money to spend, but really, I don't feel like it. I've lost all trust. There needs to be some serious acts of goodwill to restore the player base trust and morale again, 'cos right now, I see my friends leaving the game in droves (3 Earl level CS'ers I know quit the game for good this week, and believe me, they are GONE for good), and really, can ANYONE blame them?

    same reason why i stopped csing even if i could afford my lv4 wings but with this poor management? gotta love the ppl that still buy their lies but once again everything that was said even the smallest thing ever was a fail? ignoring the state of the game and ways to help it out to talk about ir reset n fashion (which seems more important than the real problem) but even that didnt happen this week.
  • shadrim
    shadrim Posts: 1,040 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    After a typical botting night there is no sign at all that any drop rate has been altered in any visible way.

    I can check back after work but i believe from what i have heard through guild and ingame contacs as well as what i have been reading here so far that whatever they did to the servers, the drop rates have not been changed at all.

    /disinterested sarcasm on
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  • miciociccio
    miciociccio Posts: 642 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    I dont think it's on aswell, can only tell about wb's and yes seen no changed (actually got 2 purps from 85 one's twed and none since maint until now).

    Anyway isnt that what i wanted to say, more, find so ***** funny all those menaces "i stopped cs, i wil lstop cs", yes in Illyfue you dont see many mains open orbs from cs reward anymore but instead a Whole army of new cs alts is being created, ppls that claim they stopped cs get everything farming ZERO (gues stuff fall from the sky, sgs included :3).

    So just sto pthat i dont cs anymore ****, the day ppls wont cs anymore pwe will just close the game and bb all, like they care with other 246 games going rofl :P

    Right now with charge reward each week, ms bogo each 3 days , fusion sale each 4 and new CS events (orbs and Raffles) am pretty sure ppls are csing like never before (and about that rofl at Croxe that at start was saying "bogos will be rare", we seen haha leafs at 60 silvers, if any on sale ofc hehe).

    On, and btw i am marquess if for that, too bad i spent 80% of my total way before the cs rank (and the bogos fest )even came out and yes now we can say i dont cs anymore but not for those stupid craps i dgaff like zod fails (weapon i will never have anyway :P) and some useless x2drop rates not working.

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  • Sephmeister - Eyrda
    Sephmeister - Eyrda Posts: 1,249 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    So, let's sum this up. Maintenance was delayed for a patch, so no timely reset so no EB spawns happened (AGAIN). Then, rather than maintenance happening when it was said, there was a 5 minute advance forum post update, and the servers thrown into sudden maintenance, leaving all of those who were running stuff in total surprise (I was on the 2nd last boss of Sickle when the 4 minute WC notification hit), and we had the final boss on its way down when the servers shut down. Then, after the servers restarted, and we're all now seeing WC notifications about a 2x drop rate, we discover that this actually isn't even working at all, and no fashion table updates, and the Guild War map reset never happened. Oh, and plenty of people complaining about not receiving charge rewards either.


    So, basically, it's been a fail, after a fail, after a fail, after a fail, after a fail, in the space of two days.

    I wanted to spend some money, I have some money to spend, but really, I don't feel like it. I've lost all trust. There needs to be some serious acts of goodwill to restore the player base trust and morale again, 'cos right now, I see my friends leaving the game in droves (3 Earl level CS'ers I know quit the game for good this week, and believe me, they are GONE for good), and really, can ANYONE blame them?

    This post..! Very much this, yes! Give this person a beer!!
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  • nihooya
    nihooya Posts: 607 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    This post..! Very much this, yes! Give this person a beer!!

    And what if his not 18yo, 21 in US(so i heard only from movies/sitcoms)
  • Shapelle - Lionheart
    Shapelle - Lionheart Posts: 250 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    nihooya wrote: »
    And what if his not 18yo, 21 in US(so i heard only from movies/sitcoms)

    I'm older than 21. I'll take a whiskey instead of a beer though, if it's all the same, lol
  • perfectallusion
    perfectallusion Posts: 63 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    I'm older than 21. I'll take a whiskey instead of a beer though, if it's all the same, lol

    Beer is cheap, wisky is not, do you really think anyone has money for real liquir with the way the game is bleeding everyone dry.

    better hope they don't add water to your beer at this rate
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  • anyastroud
    anyastroud Posts: 235 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Beer is cheap, wisky is not, do you really think anyone has money for real liquir with the way the game is bleeding everyone dry.

    better hope they don't add water to your beer at this rate
    Sure, it is one of the few ways to bear this game despite the amount of cash one sinked ;)
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