Leading mages and assassins of each server...

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  • Viscom - Eyrda
    Viscom - Eyrda Posts: 162 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    mms are basically ranged assassins with more overall damage, just as much acc/burst/CC, and a bubble.

    Imagine an edge sin that has the base damage of venom, and he can gouge/silence from 20 meters away... and he kites YOU instead of the other way around. And bubble.

    The only flaw with mms is their puny and ugly physique. water bards are feminine and mms are ugly, maybe an unpleasant exterior is the price they pay for being OP in combat lol.
  • porndmg
    porndmg Posts: 298 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    gosh, I CANT WAIT FOR CROSS SERVER PVP !! will be sooooo much fun fighting new faces :D trying new enemyes, and overall meet new people :D Seeing so many people here, and so many various builds makes me wanna try and get better again :D Since i kinda stopped improving after a time. I know who can beat me, and i know who i can beat. There are only a couple of battles that would go ,,undecided".

    And so far, the longest and most fun fight i had was against VidarXZ (eva aegis war), a few minutes of 1 on 1 in the middle of Immortal Rift with his guild and my guild on the sides, because none would have made a difference against us (they tryed to butt in, but they kinda died and didnt dare to get close :P )


    Guys, hope to see you all go against iLikeBigGuns, and try to tank him, or try to solo AuroOra or Beeknees :D or even stand more than a couple of crits from Seksowny (no doubt that he will crit you), or VelvetStrike(he is kinda squishy tho, if you manage to make him miss a couple of hits). 1 on 1 with Satayra, EvilSheep or Vincent, and talk then about strong DD's or pvp tactics (ok, maybe not for sheep or vincent, cuz they go for str8 dmg). Stand only 1 critical from Aiusha, and youre strong (i'm not even gonna begin to fable his crit dmg on a red hand). Go against Celennes(ice mage) and see what mages can do, and that they arent so squishy. Also, run when you see a big protector coming towards you, if he's called BlueDragon :D

    Imma let you meet the rest of the people, cuz i've intentionally left alot of them out. It's better to be surprised by them in a fight xD Ain't that right Kiser? Gini? Dudettte ? *cough* Knall? ZeroMyth? and i only named 5 wars here xD
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  • porndmg
    porndmg Posts: 298 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    natsss wrote: »
    yeah i hope this cross server :cool:

    u'll see our priest with near 50% crit dodge

    you'll see the diff between a crit build and arena gear

    we have our own people with arena gears, even if we are a pve server (illyfue). it's not uncommon. In fact, we have too many people that have farmed the arena gears at lvl 70, because they were afraid of bumping into Guns or Auro, or BlueDragon....i know some examples >_> alot of the people would prefer paying Guns and Auro to farm them the scores, wich, if you ask me, is pathethic, since it just shows how a flawed system is leeched, and it shows you cant do much yourself, unless you got some strong people behind. I, for one, like to see how far i can get on my own, and how far i can pull other people after me. But not to the point of being the strongest, or the most whatever. Would cut the fun out of the game, just 1 hitting everyone >_>



    edit: i think that a fight betwen 2 evasion players is the best to watch, because you get to use strategyes and get to use most (if not all) of your skills. It can even last for a few minutes :P And those are true tensionate moments. Not ,,first hit wins" sort of matches >_>
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  • creepyguy
    creepyguy Posts: 295 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    You have a big list of people but I don't think any of them can beat DeadlyTones 1v1.
  • porndmg
    porndmg Posts: 298 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    creepyguy wrote: »
    You have a big list of people but I don't think any of them can beat DeadlyTones 1v1.

    that list is only the tip of the iceberg, and i am pretty darn sure that Guns would own any ****, even if i dislike him :P that guy is a walking beast....godly boots and only godly gloves on our server. He can 1 on 1 anyone on our server. I'm not sure how he fairs against Seksowny tho, since Sek is a sin that can hit 65k crits without red hand. So idk how that would go, but one of them can prolly own most of your server. But idk DeadlyTonnes, so i wouldnt hold my breath for it. So i guess is a ,,wait and see " matter :D
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  • taeshi
    taeshi Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    porndmg wrote: »
    that list is only the tip of the iceberg, and i am pretty darn sure that Guns would own any ****, even if i dislike him :P that guy is a walking beast....godly boots and only godly gloves on our server. He can 1 on 1 anyone on our server. I'm not sure how he fairs against Seksowny tho, since Sek is a sin that can hit 65k crits without red hand. So idk how that would go, but one of them can prolly own most of your server. But idk DeadlyTonnes, so i wouldnt hold my breath for it. So i guess is a ,,wait and see " matter :D

    deadlytones is a water bard with lvl 100 mastery and resistances
    and all the possible V gems ( full lvl V goldspark, shatter, rage and blood)
    his anima rage has 2k+ pts in water
  • porndmg
    porndmg Posts: 298 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    taeshi wrote: »
    deadlytones is a water bard with lvl 100 mastery and resistances
    and all the possible V gems ( full lvl V goldspark, shatter, rage and blood)
    his anima rage has 2k+ pts in water

    guess some people live in the game :D The amount of money needed to get to that extent is more than i make in 1 year (around 17k euros).

    I guess is nice to be rich....but doesnt it cut the fun from the game? 1 hitting everyone? where is the challenge? the purpose of improving constantly ? the fun of the ,,unknown" ?

    But yeh, would like to see our Guns against Tonnes :D should be fun xD Because that being a water bard with max ress, Seksowny is rolled out of the question. wouldnt really hold a candle to it. And we dont have any noticeable water bards that could stand up to him.


    Guns, we are couting on you in arena and Fjord :D !!
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  • ILikeBigGu - Illyfue
    ILikeBigGu - Illyfue Posts: 1,066 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    natsss wrote: »
    i think that gun have a lack of resistance ( crit dodge / def ) but well :d

    deadlytone is from ? ?O.O dyos ? eyrda?

    tone is eyrda i think

    and i wont have a chance vs that bard most likely drained mana or im dead already before i kill him/her, aswell i lack experience vs water bard as its the only character we dont have here sadly enough >.<
    Will learn pretttty quick i guess but till then pretty clueless

    crit dodge i lack indeed but i dont know if a bard go for crit chance? i assume he go for arena
    im 220 crit def and 600~ res fully buffed its decent here but not really good

    crit dodge make the diffrence when it comes to tanking, imo

    puredmg also base all his judgement on fjord pretty much, like seks dont have any success in arena? high dps wars should break me down easily with DU as i lack dodge. anyway someone particular alone isn't frightening for arena its nicely combined classes with great teamwork.

    If your not a bard you cannot really work the arena on your own you have to have a good team, even as a bard you can still get closed out by trans+bonds so you always need a great team which can prevent that from happening

    Even though it's no doubt at all tones make a huuge diffrence with full V and 100 masteries+resis.
    Always dreamt of beeing a water bard, awesome pvp class x.x
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  • ILikeBigGu - Illyfue
    ILikeBigGu - Illyfue Posts: 1,066 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    natsss wrote: »
    vs water bard
    hunter mark first ( logic it's the first skill xD )
    use your burst of rage first ( 6hit ) he'll lose his shield then use soul snipe for stun then silence .... normaly you use CC first then burst of rage
    but versus water bard you cant cc him when he have his shield so you have to destroy hit before

    another advice for you :
    disarm works when he have his shield so even if exorcising bullet's silence dont work on him when he is under sonata of water( SoW = water bard shield ) the disarm do work :)
    burning swirl disarm works too =)

    However they have 2 shields or not? I usally do hm exo 6shot then do extreme sniping right after if bubble down or the swirl and other skills.... somehow still maintaining bubble and keep dpsing all the time, or maybe thats rune bonus? or he just remove cc and stuff with badge and use anima shield or something? The few we meet i just ignore and take the bards down last as the shot bubble down doesn't seem to work at all, however i do notice the disarm cc'ing them but still can rather make a full cc train at other classes than waste my time on bard if i wont kill it - at our server, idk how to deal with others
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  • ILikeBigGu - Illyfue
    ILikeBigGu - Illyfue Posts: 1,066 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    natsss wrote: »
    the shield have 10 sec cd with a rune :x

    And length of it? I mean can it be cast at start and it stay forever? with just 10 sec CD
    Like mm bubble pass after 10seconds, does bard stay forever? 0.0
    Else i'll assume using badge to remove cc and priest removed some others
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  • taeshi
    taeshi Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    porndmg wrote: »
    guess some people live in the game :D The amount of money needed to get to that extent is more than i make in 1 year (around 17k euros).

    I guess is nice to be rich....but doesnt it cut the fun from the game? 1 hitting everyone? where is the challenge? the purpose of improving constantly ? the fun of the ,,unknown" ?

    But yeh, would like to see our Guns against Tonnes :D should be fun xD Because that being a water bard with max ress, Seksowny is rolled out of the question. wouldnt really hold a candle to it. And we dont have any noticeable water bards that could stand up to him.


    Guns, we are couting on you in arena and Fjord :D !!

    yea thats how competitive Eyrda is

    but he's not the only one in Eyrda
    my team can beat his team sometimes too but the odds favor them :(
  • creepyguy
    creepyguy Posts: 295 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    You can make the bard shield last longer than 6 hits, up to around 10-12 hits. Bards can cast the shield through some CCs.

    DeadlyTones sure does hit hard (about 1k mastery and pretty high attack). He has 3xx% crit dmg. However it is almost impossible to kill him 1v1 (due to his character's strength and because he is a water bard). His resistances self buffed are about all in the 900s with I believe 2 of them in the 1ks. He has high crit dodge and 3xx% crit defense. With all this, you have to hit pretty hard over his shield to not heal him.

    PS bonds doesn't work on a bard with their shield up.
  • Kateena - Storm Legion
    Kateena - Storm Legion Posts: 83 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    taeshi wrote: »
    deadlytones is a water bard with lvl 100 mastery and resistances
    and all the possible V gems ( full lvl V goldspark, shatter, rage and blood)
    his anima rage has 2k+ pts in water

    Time to give my bard some level 5 gems, but I will be so behind in soul power and anima training :(
  • creepyguy
    creepyguy Posts: 295 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    natsss wrote: »
    hmm ?

    normaly if you cast SoW
    then let someone hit you ( no miss huh ) it's 6hit

    he can cast it again but i'm pretty sure that's only 6 hit :confused::confused:

    It depends on the amount of D chords they have when they cast their shield. The talent description is wrong.
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  • ILikeBigGu - Illyfue
    ILikeBigGu - Illyfue Posts: 1,066 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    wish i were a water bard :o

    is there any downside of casting alot of D chords so you tank that many hits, because the bubble is what make water really OP, so having it about twice as long makes it even more epic
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  • creepyguy
    creepyguy Posts: 295 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    wish i were a water bard :o

    is there any downside of casting alot of D chords so you tank that many hits, because the bubble is what make water really OP, so having it about twice as long makes it even more epic

    I think most water skills don't give you D chords. I'm not a water bard so I don't really know their skill rotations.
  • creepyguy
    creepyguy Posts: 295 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    natsss wrote: »
    D = water
    C= wind
    E = light no ?

    so their skill rotation would be
    CDD DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDCDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD !

    k juts trolling but it's something like that :D

    Yes you are correct.

    They can also cast their shield during stuns, silence, sleep and probably disarm (they can cast it without a weapon).
  • Viscom - Eyrda
    Viscom - Eyrda Posts: 162 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    tone is eyrda i think

    and i wont have a chance vs that bard most likely drained mana or im dead already before i kill him/her, aswell i lack experience vs water bard as its the only character we dont have here sadly enough >.<
    Will learn pretttty quick i guess but till then pretty clueless

    crit dodge i lack indeed but i dont know if a bard go for crit chance? i assume he go for arena
    im 220 crit def and 600~ res fully buffed its decent here but not really good

    crit dodge make the diffrence when it comes to tanking, imo

    puredmg also base all his judgement on fjord pretty much, like seks dont have any success in arena? high dps wars should break me down easily with DU as i lack dodge. anyway someone particular alone isn't frightening for arena its nicely combined classes with great teamwork.

    If your not a bard you cannot really work the arena on your own you have to have a good team, even as a bard you can still get closed out by trans+bonds so you always need a great team which can prevent that from happening

    Even though it's no doubt at all tones make a huuge diffrence with full V and 100 masteries+resis.
    Always dreamt of beeing a water bard, awesome pvp class x.x

    I believe you will have 0 chance against tones then. Your build may be extremely high damage but 600 resis and 220 crit defense are not acceptable by Eyrda standards. Our people have (if arena geared) 800-1000 resis and 310-330 crit defense.

    Our server has been **** so brutally by crit damage stacking assassins in its history that resist, HP, and crit def are now the foundation of any Eyrdan PvP build. Evasion is a rarity.
  • Viscom - Eyrda
    Viscom - Eyrda Posts: 162 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Regarding extremely geared water bards in general (Eyrda has two of them, DeadlyTones and Kadanza), there is no point even theory-crafting or thinking about how to beat them alone in a fair fight unless you are one of the following:

    -fire mage
    -venom sin
    -physical warrior

    Other classes hardly even hit more than their bubble heals. At 100 resis and 50k mana all conventional damage is effectively 0 against bubble.

    For example level 80 mastery warriors + a priest will lose to tones, simply because he is literally not doing damage. The only way to win for a warrior is hope that he will disconnect or lag, and autoattack your BoR lol.
  • ReinaStark - Lionheart
    ReinaStark - Lionheart Posts: 210 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I'm frightened o/

    can we get the china patch that makes water bard bubble purgeable already? :p
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