P2win = Pay OR play to win. No Its WORK to win

AlucardStJames - Storm Legion
AlucardStJames - Storm Legion Posts: 29 Arc User
edited April 2011 in General Discussion
Look I know this is going ot be troll bait but here it goes

[Rant on]

I am really tired of people that whine and complain about the whole Ohh you can just buy stuff to win the game ****.

PWI has honestly one of the best F2P models I have seen. 90% of what you can get on the CS is availble to be trade in game meaning a large protion of stuff will end up on the AH trade market. What does this mean. THe Game is not jsut Pay to win. You have two choices. Play nonstop 24X7 and take full advantage of the game system to make money to get what you want or You can get off your lazy butt get a job and make the money yourself to get what you want.

I am Purposely leaving out the idea of Winning the game for a reason. There is no WINNING in an MMO. There is always going to be new stuff coming out that ups the ante. There is always going to be one class a little better then the other. there will never be absolute balance in any MMO because there will always be someone more dedicated then the next. Just like real life there will always be the person that can afford to buy something better then you can. How they get it is always moot. Bill Gates Can pretty much buy whatever he wants. he Lied cheated and stole his way to the top, but no matter how you look at it he worked his way there and deserves to enjoy his money as he sees fit. The same applies to the PWI system. Everyone has a chance to get what they want you just decide how you want to get it. Hard work in the game farming instances or what not. or sweating in a warehouse for 12 hours a day for the spare cash to buy what you want.

You have no rights complainng that someone else can afford something better then you do. As with anything in this world you always have the option to bust your butt as you see fit to get what you want. Hard work and dedication comes in many forms. THis is the same as whining that your neighbor with a decent job owns a Porche when your driving a Ford escort. If you want a Porche.. Go out and work for one! You want Rage fire gems in all slots for your character.. make Multiple characters.. Level them to 40 (not truly that hard) and Farm GL every day.. you will eventually get them.. Better yet. you could sell the ones you dont need to make gold to buy more gems off the AH..

Please stop the complaining that other people have decided to take a different route to enjoy their game experiance then you have.. You have the same options as anyone. heck Even Kids nowadays have ways of making money if your smart.

All In All the game is Work to "Win" its just a matter of the form of work you choose.

Thank you

That is all you can get the flamethrowers now

[Rant off]
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  • Candenza - Eyrda
    Candenza - Eyrda Posts: 534 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    +10000000000000000000000

    First sentance
    "I'm sick of people complaing"
    You earned a golden sticker for the day.
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  • Frost_Fang - Nyos
    Frost_Fang - Nyos Posts: 837 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Fact 1. It is WORK to win, problem is it doesn't have be you working, it can also be your dad and his credit card :D
    Fact 2. every F2P game allows the sale of cash-shop items (since that makes them sell more and they never sell money directly), so you obviously didn't play other games, yet you dare to say this one is among the best.... shame on you.
    Fact 3. I've got a job, that doesn't mean i'm gonna spend the money I worked for on this ****. If I really-really wanna throw away money, I'm gonna donate it to Japan or some other cause, not behave like a spoiled brat and buy myself a pony....literally.
    Fact 4. with PWe, nobody wins, we all lost the moment we downloaded the game...especially your dad and his credit card.
    Fact 5. Bill Gates bought the software used to create Microsoft, he didn't steal, PWe on the other hand steals any idea they come across be it a game or a movie (PoC much ? Twilight much ? werewolf Jacob ? seriously? )
    Fact 6. Bill Gates can't buy everything...He can't even buy a good game from PWe, cause they don't have one O,o
    Fact 7. everyone has the right to complain about everything... in some places u'll just get shot for it, but still, thats the freedom of speech :3

    Freeloaders in this game: 2 years to get decent gear
    Cash-shoppers: 1 minute to top all their hard work
    = not working out...

    P.S. it ain't nice talking behind Bill Gates back, we at least have the courtesy to talk bad about PWe on their own forum, unlike you >.>
    P.P.S. if we got no right to complain, how comes u've got the right to complain about us complaining ? So i'll complain about you complaining about us complaining, you of course are free to complain about me complaining, about you complaining about us complaining...
    I hope that was clear...

    Sincerly, a complainer.
    Member of "KoS_" cause unless you stand for something, you will fall for anything.
  • namestakenffs
    namestakenffs Posts: 348 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    It takes 95% less work to get a high paying job and drop $16,000 on the game after living expenses than to earn $250 ingame (probably less..)


    It is pay to win, regardless of whether or not gems are in the cash shop, period. Because it takes thousands to max one mastery and a maxed mastery triples or halves damage done or taken. Ridiculous really.

    P2P games give your money's worth, you can't say the same about F2Ps and that is why I'm not inclined to spend money on them. Perhaps if PW cheapened masteries and increased what you get for your money - perhaps follow PW-MY's very reasonable prices - I'd say otherwise.
  • cadiazz
    cadiazz Posts: 14 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    OP +1

    enough said

    and that frost_fang need to stop thinking that everyone uses their dad's credit card

    how long sice f2p model is out? I just dont get it why is it that some ppl still dont get it, my salary is not much but I can afford to spend $200-400 on games every months, whether it's console, pc or mmorpg. I enjoyed my time playing these games. Just as I enjoy my time doing other hobbys.

    what's wrong with p2w?NOTHING

    so you think it's unfair that other ppl can spend rl money on this game and you cant? if you think this game is garbage and not worth it then why are you playing?
    the thing you ppl need to think about is what can I do so I can enjoy my time playing this game. so I dont need to play 24/7 and sitting infront of computer grinding. (not if your like spending time just grinding and doing it the hard way)

    been said many times, either you work hard irl and make more money to spend it in game, or you work hard in game and achieve the same goal, you probably will spend a lot more time use one method than the other one, so it's obviously which option you should choose.

    Now, if someone still have a say about 'their dad's credit card', it's their dad, not yours, so you need to go blame your dad why cant he make enough moeny so you can spend them on games.
  • TheSprite - Lionheart
    TheSprite - Lionheart Posts: 203 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    I don't understand why people always choose to complain about these type of games. You know its a free to play game and the game needs to have money. They can either

    1) Don't sell good stuff in their CS to make people want to spend their money and have the game die out

    or

    2) Sell stuff that isn't really game breaking (except for mastery training really, but if a person really wants to spend thousands, power to them)

    What I want most people to realize, is that gems on the CS are ridiculously expensive compared to what they are in game. I see ragefire's in the AH that are 10 gold. Even at 3.5 a Merc statue, thats only 3 Merc Statues (60 leaves) which is still cheaper than the 84 you need in the CS. The fact that the market rate of these gems is under the CS price, means that these gems in the CS are not game breaking at all. If the cash shoppers really wanted the gems, they would be gone out of the AH. Period. AND as the game progresses, lvl 1 gems will be worth less and less as lvl 2 gems will become drops etc... This is in no way game breaking. Do your GL every day. Get a free gem. Less QQ.
  • Frost_Fang - Nyos
    Frost_Fang - Nyos Posts: 837 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    @Cadiazz:
    First of all: most people can SPEND, but the resposnible ones chose not to. And others simply have principles. Why would u give money to a greedy company that threats you like dirt.... standards...
    2nd of all: don't agree to the thread-posters novel by saying +1, if u're gonna say: whats wrong with p2w, after he made clear his point is this game isn't p2w... you obviously don't even know that u disagree with him.
    3rd of all: I'm complimenting everyone by assuming their kids that use their dads card...otherwise i'd have to insult their mental state :)

    Other than that: I can spend money on alot of things, well, not drugs, those are expensive, but I choose not to. I'd feel bad having an advantage over freeloaders. If I win in a duel, i'd know it's my money that made me win, not my skill...and thats why I always conclude I won't use money. If I'll ever pay for a game, it will be for a P2P one.
    I don't enjoy beating people with my stash of money...

    So, some of us (me and probably namestakenffs) actually do have jobs and could spend money on the game, but choose not to. You being spoiled and incompotented that u're not midning the advantage given to you... is not our problem. We have standards and spit on you who don't.
    And... I'm not attacking their dad, I'm feeling sorry for the poor man. There weren't any MMOs yet when my dad was buying me stuff, so i can't blame it on him, sorry :3

    @TheSprite: stuff (didn't care to read... maybe some other time) :|
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  • Cyphers - Lionheart
    Cyphers - Lionheart Posts: 393 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    still level 21 fang? come on, level moar!
  • Snuffkinka - Illyfue
    Snuffkinka - Illyfue Posts: 38 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    PWe on the other hand steals any idea they come across be it a game or a movie (PoC much ? Twilight much ? werewolf Jacob ? seriously? )

    I wouldn't call that stealing. Twilight and PotC? Those are just pop-culture references that makes the game "on-time" and enjoyable. There are TONS of other references if someone would really go through reading the quests. Those are just small things that make you smile if you like cross-over jokes.

    In the same way you could say that WoW is just a huge bag of stolen ideas, since they have all possible pop-culture references you can find. There is Old Spice guy joke, Dr Who jokes, Titanic scene rip-off, Lady Gaga's dances, I'm sure Twilight and PotC is somewhere as well and many many more. And somehow that mmo is considered by many as one of the best games ever.
    What I want most people to realize, is that gems on the CS are ridiculously expensive compared to what they are in game. I see ragefire's in the AH that are 10 gold. Even at 3.5 a Merc statue, thats only 3 Merc Statues (60 leaves) which is still cheaper than the 84 you need in the CS. The fact that the market rate of these gems is under the CS price, means that these gems in the CS are not game breaking at all. If the cash shoppers really wanted the gems, they would be gone out of the AH. Period. AND as the game progresses, lvl 1 gems will be worth less and less as lvl 2 gems will become drops etc... This is in no way game breaking. Do your GL every day. Get a free gem. Less QQ.

    CS is just made for "convenience" that doesn't mean "cheap". And I have to agree with that opinion above.

    Just because someone is lazy enough to buy something more expensive from CS than getting from the game system itself doesn't mean you should just sit like an angry kid yelling "PAY TO WIN GAME YAY!". 80% if not more of CS stuff is in game and getting it it's not really that hard. I was actually surprised that you can get that much from the game itself.

    And to be honest credit-card kids will just come, buy what they want, play a bit and leave since they're just that type of players. I haven't met any heavy-CS player that would stay for a longer in game. And imho they are better games than FW where they can buy power.
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  • Frost_Fang - Nyos
    Frost_Fang - Nyos Posts: 837 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Snuffkinka - it doesn't make me smile when the game has nothing to offer beside PoC / Tlight stuff... if I wanted a parody, i'd go watch scary movie, not play a game.
    WoW has stolen plenty ideas, true that, but when it comes to movies, it just mentions them and makes it funn.y while FW is being serious about a werewolf jacob and the big-bad-boss looking like davy jones... they literally are consistent out of that and nothing else. It's just a western PW + tlight + poc.

    And c-card kids... I didn't meet any specific players here, but on a certain other game I played...they stay...trust me, they stay and do they follow you around -_-' I wish kids would get bored and leave, but for some reason, they decide to invest 700 euros and a year of their lives exactly in the game u're playing...
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  • CamuiGackt - Lionheart
    CamuiGackt - Lionheart Posts: 213 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    @Cadiazz:
    First of all: most people can SPEND, but the resposnible ones chose not to. And others simply have principles. Why would u give money to a greedy company that threats you like dirt.... standards...

    None of these makes sense. Spend money in games is not irresponsible, unless you spend money that you had to use for eat, or to maintain your life.

    The second sentence is illogical. If you would think like that, you could also start to cultivate your own food. Every company is greedy. Some are greedier than others, but yes, all of them only exists to make money.

    Oh noes! I got <Sebestimated>!!!
  • Frost_Fang - Nyos
    Frost_Fang - Nyos Posts: 837 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    None of these makes sense. Spend money in games is not irresponsible, unless you spend money that you had to use for eat, or to maintain your life.

    The second sentence is illogical. If you would think like that, you could also start to cultivate your own food. Every company is greedy. Some are greedier than others, but yes, all of them only exists to make money.


    Blizzard fakes that they give a damn, PWe staff probably would too if they weren't working under the spam-mmo-factory tyranny. Each game they make, "good job guys, now do this one"... Personally, I think they're probably underpaid, overworked and simply had enough of it. If designing is art then their child really bears the scars of their lack of ambition, ideas and innovation.

    Say 1 great thing about this game... (plz say graphics, I'd like to laugh a bit more today)...

    It's iresponsible to throw money away, it doesn't matter if you need it for food, it's irresponsible cause you could use it better, cause there's people who need it... and u're wasting it to have a dress in a game ? for real ? I mean, I wouldn't say anything if it was something amazing... but seriously... they're not even trying to make impressive fashion...
    Unless you find it impressive, then I take it back...

    Either way...there's difference between plain greed and a quality product aiming for money. This is just plain ugly + marketing. If you consider this a quality product worth paying for.... then u really lack examples for comparison
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  • Frost_Fang - Nyos
    Frost_Fang - Nyos Posts: 837 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    PLAY Hard Go PrO

    O_o ....it kinda makes no sense...
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  • CamuiGackt - Lionheart
    CamuiGackt - Lionheart Posts: 213 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Sir, it is not irresponsible paying for entertainment, unless you are lacking in money. And you are in no place to say what is best for one or another person, unless the person is your son, and even then you could be wrong...

    One great thing about the game: I have fun playing it. Need moar? Well, I think no.

    And about the graphics, I think they are indeed good. Far from the best out there, but yet good.
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  • Frost_Fang - Nyos
    Frost_Fang - Nyos Posts: 837 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Sir, it is not irresponsible paying for entertainment, unless you are lacking in money. And you are in no place to say what is best for one or another person, unless the person is your son, and even then you could be wrong...

    One great thing about the game: I have fun playing it. Need moar? Well, I think no.

    And about the graphics, I think they are indeed good. Far from the best out there, but yet good.

    You don't even know whats the best out there, don't you :D ? and i'm not talking crysis 2... but MMO's. And yeah, paying for entertainment is very well irresponsible also, in fact, entertaining is the most commonly way to behave irresponsible. Funny how you chose the exact opposite term to justify irresponsibility. And no, I don't have to be someone's father, they probably know it themselves... but cause I'm not their father, they'll try and pretend they're in control of their needs and wishes.
    If a **** spends 600 dollars on a FREE 2play game (when he could get several years of subscription from a quality game) then somethings seriously messed up with him, since he's paying to gain advantage over others, cause he's an idiot or... cause he's really bad at math.
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  • saturn
    saturn Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    @Cadiazz:
    First of all: most people can SPEND, but the resposnible ones chose not to. And others simply have principles. Why would u give money to a greedy company that threats you like dirt.... standards...
    2nd of all: don't agree to the thread-posters novel by saying +1, if u're gonna say: whats wrong with p2w, after he made clear his point is this game isn't p2w... you obviously don't even know that u disagree with him.
    3rd of all: I'm complimenting everyone by assuming their kids that use their dads card...otherwise i'd have to insult their mental state :)

    Other than that: I can spend money on alot of things, well, not drugs, those are expensive, but I choose not to. I'd feel bad having an advantage over freeloaders. If I win in a duel, i'd know it's my money that made me win, not my skill...and thats why I always conclude I won't use money. If I'll ever pay for a game, it will be for a P2P one.
    I don't enjoy beating people with my stash of money...

    So, some of us (me and probably namestakenffs) actually do have jobs and could spend money on the game, but choose not to. You being spoiled and incompotented that u're not midning the advantage given to you... is not our problem. We have standards and spit on you who don't.
    And... I'm not attacking their dad, I'm feeling sorry for the poor man. There weren't any MMOs yet when my dad was buying me stuff, so i can't blame it on him, sorry :3

    @TheSprite: stuff (didn't care to read... maybe some other time) :|

    I respect that you see its a pay to win game yet you try to win without paying
  • Frost_Fang - Nyos
    Frost_Fang - Nyos Posts: 837 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    saturn wrote: »
    I respect that you see its a pay to win game yet you try to win without paying

    Even if I tried winning with paying, it wouldn't go... I'd either feel bad for being worse then someone or feel bad for having spent too much money on the game, lol...

    So it's a no go... I can't allow myself to spend 600 dollar on a game... seesh, thats some people's whole paycheck...
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  • angelnova
    angelnova Posts: 21 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    just get say this
    the game cash shop is pretty balanced. I've been playing a couple games with cash shop and so far
    fw was most balanced. I'm lvl 45 with pretty decent gear ( ragefire gem in every equip) and i have about 1.5 Diamond without playing 24/7
    you just need to know how to make those money!!!
  • Frost_Fang - Nyos
    Frost_Fang - Nyos Posts: 837 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    angelnova wrote: »
    just get say this
    the game cash shop is pretty balanced. I've been playing a couple games with cash shop and so far
    fw was most balanced. I'm lvl 45 with pretty decent gear ( ragefire gem in every equip) and i have about 1.5 Diamond without playing 24/7
    you just need to know how to make those money!!!

    They're not saying you can't make money, they're saying the cash-users have LOADS more money :P

    But yeah, it isn't so bad, personally I don't even complain, I just come here to sneak up on someone and jump him like a true assassin...pretending that I actually care for the side i'm representing, lol.

    I'm used to overpowered cash shops, so far this one didn't annoy me too much... I just ...face...a palm (there's plenty in sea of oblivion) each time I saw a kid who spent his lunch-box money on FW fashion, lol...
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  • Cyphers - Lionheart
    Cyphers - Lionheart Posts: 393 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    ^ don't hate on the fashion carebears! i wish they put more fashion in the cs O.O!
  • AlucardStJames - Storm Legion
    AlucardStJames - Storm Legion Posts: 29 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    To the person with the list of issues. Bill gates IS a thief know your history. If you are not smart enough to know what I mean by that im not wasting my time doing your research. and the organization he represents is too. but that was just making a point and your failure to see the actual point shows your not very good at comprehending logic.

    Next point of order.. the Kiddies buying with their daddies CC.. again SO what.. Im happy for them its these types that keep the games we enjoy so much for free in business adn again it does not have to have any impact on your gameplay what so ever. I was a kid too and most eran some sort of an allowance.. usually for uh oh guess what doing some sort of work either in getting grades or chores. And yes there are always going to be spoiled brats too.. Again they got lucky and have a Privileged life. Usually though the truly spoiled are off enjoying other things. And if they are stealing from their parents. Shame on them and sham on their parents for not paying better attention to what their kids are doing.

    So you have a job and choose not to buy from the CS.. Guess what thats your choice.. Other again earn their money and have the right to use it however they want. As long a their not taking food out of their kids mouths or harming anyone who cares what they do with the money they rightfully earned. Just because you CHOOSE (a very important word in this ordeal) to use your money another way does not mean a thing to the ones that do.

    I Did not say that PWE has the best but it is one of the best F2P models. The fact that it is one of the most recognized names in the F2P world says that alone.

    Many games use Pop Culture references so your failure of knowledge in the MMO world alone shows how poorly educated you are on teh subject and mostly invalidates any claim you have of "knowing" anything about it all. Besides

    YOUR LEVEL 21 Meaning you to are playing the game and therefore supporting it, your coming here and posting about the game, meaning you still choose to be an active supporter of the community. If PWE was such a poor company and there was so much hatred for it Walk away man. I has part of CB For a recent game. I loved it dearly but on release day they Shattered the world and environment, They falsley advertised stuff to work that didnt and jipped people on gameplay. Whil in CB I enjoyed the game so much i bought a LT sub for the game with high hopes for it. I even purchased a sub for a close friend of mine who enjoyed the game in CB also.. When they company basically destroys the game on release guess what...


    I STOPPED PLAYING AND LEFT THE COMMUNITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why? I had no desire to support in any way the company any longer for the poor and deceptive practices they used to draw people in.

    Everyone has a choice. noone forces anyone to do anything.

    Gear is not the measure of enjoyment for everyone. Its not even the basis of the game. Its a small part of a much larger system. and again.. With common sense and logic pretty much anything can be had well. In actuality it is more rewarding to Earn your gear and items in game then buy them. So what if it takes you 2 years to get all top gear and someone else gets it in mins with actaull money.. heck many would find them foolish in the first place spending that kind of money for stuff that could be earned for free. but again. ITs their CHOICE!

    To Name taken......

    Guess what . Again its actually not that hard to earn money in the game if you actually study it as use the mechanics to your advantage. It just takes time. And if getting a high paying job and making that kind of money is sooo easy.. THEN DO IT AND SHUT UP. You have the CHOICE to get that job and buy stuff just like the others do. There is no WIN in an MMO Period.. you cant win the measure of winnnig has nothing to do with the gear you have.. You dont WIN at life just because you own a Porsche over the guy that owns a Ford.. Guess what.. you both can still DRIVE to the same places and enjoy the same wonderful landscape. Heck the Porsche guy actually loses out more because they are usually going to fast to really recognize the view around them (GET THE SYMBOLISM?!?!?!?!)

    F2P actually has the best value for the dollar of any system.. WHY???? BECAUSE IT IS ALL FREE. you can get anything you want or need for free.. The only true dollar VALUE to the items is that your willing to spend for it and again.. If you earned that money you have the right to enjoy it how you see fit.

    In reality the CS items are overpriced but thats kind of the point. Price something in a convenience store at a gas station a drink or something. then check the price of that item in a super market. Most of the time the supermarket will have the same item Cheaper then a gas station. What are you paying for.. The convenience the ease of not having to go the the supermarket. Yes you can CHOOSE to just go to a real store but most people will buy it because its EASY. and again. NOTHING is forcing you to buy it. And as the saying goes. Nothing easy comes cheap. there is always a cost.

    I have seen games that Literally Make you buy CS items just to progress in the game or get to a higher level. And we are not talking Buffs or Fashion items.. Literally the game REQUIRED a lets say 3 dollar (Bound on purchase) item to move the quest and unlock an item. Yet when purchasing the "Gold" needed to buy the item you could only buy in 10$ increments (and there was no way to get anything else to do with the other 7$ left afterwards). THATS effed up.. PWE does nothing of the sort. all they are doing is providing options to make your life easier again you can choose to do it or not, but you cant fault anyone if they decide to do so and take the cheap easy way out. Heck at least they are keeping the game in business so you can continue to enjoy the game for free.

    No Matter what in some way people still have to work for what they want.. just because they choose to work in the real world and use what they got there to make a character that fits them so be it. its not hurting you. Your just being jealous because your not the biggest pee pee in the room. and if thats your issue you have some serious problems getting jealous over what others can afford or what they have.. Worry about your own back yard. if you were not so busy checking out what others have you would have more time enjoying things for what they are

    A GAME TO PLAY AND INTERACT WITH FRIENDS AND KILL STUFF!!!!!!
  • GustavoM - Eyrda
    GustavoM - Eyrda Posts: 111 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    WORK to win

    If you guys declare repetitive actions for several -MONTHS- as a proper way to obtain -FUN- In a -GAME-... I'm kinda speechless, since yes, several tastes does exist but wow: Taking tiresome actions as something good?

    Unless If someone pops a "Lulz but It's just a few weeks to obtain item x and y: It's all a matter of effort". Well then all I have to say Is: It's not the way you are thinking.

    Some people tends to stay In a game at all costs due to their guilds and whatnot, even If the obvious wraps Into their faces.

    Meh, ignorance Is a bliss, indeed.
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  • TheMagicPimp - Eyrda
    TheMagicPimp - Eyrda Posts: 114 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Lol @ all the ppl new at PWE games,reminds me of the ones that were supporting PWI a while ago and now would complain about everything they do to that game as well,because they have reasons to.

    You guys know that "in any business, where quality has a high value, complaining customer is a gift, not a disease" - by Paramedic

    I'm curious when something like this will hit FW : http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=938282


    EDIT : I used to support PWE like this too,now I'd support the ppl that are complaining about it but there's no reason to complain when you're not expecting anything from them anymore,ijs.

    Enjoy the ride while it lasts and try to get used to ppl complaining at almost after every update they make,you'll eventually see why :P
  • GustavoM - Eyrda
    GustavoM - Eyrda Posts: 111 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Everyone tends to make money In a game, nothing Is free etcetc but let's say that blatantly throwing on your face and/or FORCING you to spend money Is not the right way to go.

    Also:
    A GAME TO PLAY AND INTERACT WITH FRIENDS AND KILL STUFF!!!!!!

    I strongly advise you to try this since this game Is meant to be challenging and not for socializing.
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  • katozuma
    katozuma Posts: 705 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Fact 3. I've got a job, that doesn't mean i'm gonna spend the money I worked for on this ****. If I really-really wanna throw away money, I'm gonna donate it to Japan or some other cause, not behave like a spoiled brat and buy myself a pony....literally.

    Thrown my money with pwi, got to lvl 95 finally realizing how much time & money I wasted. *facepalm*
    Won't ever happen again.

    The game is what it is, PWE will remain the same, if want a better MMO experience I suggest try a different mmo. Dislike FW in cbt that I have yet to play it again...5 PWE games down that I won't ever again and 2 more to go(raiderz and Rusty hearts).
    Raiderz look like it use a different engine
    Rusty Hearts look like......
  • toshirohit
    toshirohit Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    if you complain, you can just choose not to play. It is just for fun anyways, and small part of life where you can kill things and enjoy
  • Frost_Fang - Nyos
    Frost_Fang - Nyos Posts: 837 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    To the person with the list of issues. Bill gates IS a thief know your history. If you are not smart enough to know what I mean by that im not wasting my time doing your research. and the organization he represents is too. but that was just making a point and your failure to see the actual point shows your not very good at comprehending logic.

    I stopped reading there...
    I see, so...there's an article about Microsoft stealing baby seals and using them in their ville research... and, all that cause some random douche on a forum said so. Makes sense...

    If you had any proof, you would already have mentioned it. But it's cute how you regard things as fact even tho they're your own opinions.

    Have fun wasting your daddies hard earned cash.
    Member of "KoS_" cause unless you stand for something, you will fall for anything.
  • Pieflavor - Storm Legion
    Pieflavor - Storm Legion Posts: 277 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    Im actually relieved when people spend on fashion, yep, someone will die in africa but at least no power was bought and there is still a sense of even field when tou fight soneone the same level as you but just with fashion
    <Sebestimated>
    GOT this title as Storm downtime compensation
  • Anaksha - Eyrda
    Anaksha - Eyrda Posts: 146 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    I don't understand why people always choose to complain about these type of games. You know its a free to play game and the game needs to have money. They can either

    1) Don't sell good stuff in their CS to make people want to spend their money and have the game die out

    or

    2) Sell stuff that isn't really game breaking (except for mastery training really, but if a person really wants to spend thousands, power to them)

    What I want most people to realize, is that gems on the CS are ridiculously expensive compared to what they are in game. I see ragefire's in the AH that are 10 gold. Even at 3.5 a Merc statue, thats only 3 Merc Statues (60 leaves) which is still cheaper than the 84 you need in the CS. The fact that the market rate of these gems is under the CS price, means that these gems in the CS are not game breaking at all. If the cash shoppers really wanted the gems, they would be gone out of the AH. Period. AND as the game progresses, lvl 1 gems will be worth less and less as lvl 2 gems will become drops etc... This is in no way game breaking. Do your GL every day. Get a free gem. Less QQ.

    This.
    /thread

    Oh, Edit;
    Fatties stop eating at McDonalds for a month and you can afford to CS every once in a while too ;D
    (We'll average 5 dollars to eat (in reality, its higher I know), 5 x 30 = $150 [and thats just for one person, one time a day.])
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  • Creegan - Illyfue
    Creegan - Illyfue Posts: 55 Arc User
    edited April 2011
    If you don't think this is p2 win already your a jerk.

    It's people who don't and blindly defend what is obviously a cobbled together game that has NO originality,the autotracking is SHAMEFUL and NPCS chat fill up your screen so quickly with endless inane babble that you lose the chat of your friends.

    And what genius designed the interface to pop back open EVERYTIME so you can say "see you"

    You know the people i mean,the ones that treat a GMs reply like the second coming.