Computer Help!

npramirez
npramirez Posts: 78 Arc User
edited January 2011 in Technical Support Zone
I've read so many threads on the topic of FR, lag, graphic settings etc. and I still cannot decide. One thing I've noticed is that many people mention that FW requires more from the CPU and less from the GPU. Here are the 2 PC's I am deciding between. You'll notice one has a better GPU and the other has a better CPU. I'll post the links at the bottom for additional specs but I can already tell you they are nearly identical besides gpu and cpu.

PC 1
CPU: AMD Athlon II X2 240(2.8GHz)
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GT240 1GB

PC2
CPU: Intel Core i3 550(3.2GHz)
GPU: ATI Radeon HD 5450 512MB


Like I said earlier, the remaining specs are very close. The only real exception (I think) is that PC2 has twice the Hard Drive space (500gb vs 1tb).
My only real concern is Forsaken World. I may pick up other games later on but I can upgrade certain parts accordingly. I was originally set on PC1 because of the nice GPU but after reading so much about CPU being the important component, I've become confused. Please, any input would help. Price difference is negligible.

Links:
PC1: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=83-227-261&SortField=0&SummaryType=0&Pagesize=10&PurchaseMark=&SelectedRating=-1&VideoOnlyMark=False&VendorMark=&IsFeedbackTab=true&Page=2
PC2: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883227290
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  • francischutney
    francischutney Posts: 630 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    I say get PC2.

    Both PC's are on sale, but PC2 is a better deal.

    PC2 Was: $629.99 Now: $579.99 - What a bargain!
    PC1 Was: $599.99 Now: $569.99
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  • npramirez
    npramirez Posts: 78 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Lol, yes. It is more money off but I still need some solid evidence that proves it can run FW better.
  • darthpanda16
    darthpanda16 Posts: 9,471 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    The dual core ability of the game doesn't seem to be taking advantage of anyone's multi cores currently.

    Either one of those PCs could work.

    Please check the stickies in this thread sub forum though, and make note of some of the issues people have of running the game on a variety of Windows systems.
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  • mk16
    mk16 Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    PC2: Much , much better cpu. The passmark rating is 2x higher than the Athlon. Google if you want to see more specific and practical comparisons of the two, benchmarks don't always reflect real-world scenarios.

    -Somewhat slower GPU, with less vram . For the purpose of FW and FW alone... this won't concern you. You can upgrade later anyways - you can't upgrade with the lolAMD since it's probably using an AM2 board and amd's current offerings suck (unless you're poor).


    My personal recommendation is to build your own PC, for $600-700 you can pretty much get an i5 2500K that'll run at 4ghz with no effort; even at stock speeds one core will run at 3.8ghz.. You almost ALWAYS get better doing it yourself. I can throw out some example component links if you're interested.
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  • npramirez
    npramirez Posts: 78 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    mk16 wrote: »
    PC2: Much , much better cpu. The passmark rating is 2x higher than the Athlon. Google if you want to see more specific and practical comparisons of the two, benchmarks don't always reflect real-world scenarios.

    -Somewhat slower GPU, with less vram . For the purpose of FW and FW alone... this won't concern you. You can upgrade later anyways - you can't upgrade with the lolAMD since it's probably using an AM2 board and amd's current offerings suck (unless you're poor).


    My personal recommendation is to build your own PC, for $600-700 you can pretty much get an i5 2500K that'll run at 4ghz with no effort; even at stock speeds one core will run at 3.8ghz.. You almost ALWAYS get better doing it yourself. I can throw out some example component links if you're interested.

    That would be very helpful, mk16. My budget can only extend to about 600 bucks and maybe trickle a bit over. I considered building my own PC but I wasn't sure if it would be worth risking breaking something. A couple helpful links would be very appreciated!
  • mk16
    mk16 Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Scores
    My build for you: http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i5-2500K+%40+3.30GHz
    PC2: http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i3+550+%40+3.20GHz
    PC1: http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+Athlon+II+X2+240
    Real life performance... the 2500 is probably gonna give about 10%-20% more FPS than the i3 (in FW). Still, pretty good improvement, and you get four cores for the price of your two core system.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231274

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128460
    OR (low end option/onboard video/No Overclocking)
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128466

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072&cm_re=2500k-_-19-115-072-_-Product

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811103011

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136073

    (can't decide on optical drive for you, there is a whole forum devoted to the crappiness that is optical media drives and discs...) http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007589%20600003580&IsNodeId=1&name=2MB


    If you're wondering why it's expensive - it's a good, tier 2 brand. Cheap power supplies aren't advisable (factors like noise, ripple, and the cheap ones tend to blow up your entire system when they die)
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151094

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826104178

    So far - $600.
    Now we have 2 options:
    a. Use the H67 motherboard. This means you can use the crappy IGP on the CPU instead of buying a video card - but you can't overclock!
    or
    b. Since we can't use the IGP on the cpu with a P67 motherboard, you'll need to grab a cheapo video card. Unfortunately.
    I recommend buying a used card off ebay, local, craigslist etc - from a manufacturer with a lifetime warranty. XFX's is transferrable. If not, then just buy a cheap card til you can afford something decent. FW is not very GPU dependent.
    I don't advise spending money, period, on a card that scores less than 1,000 @ http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html.


    Now all that's left is a keyboard, mouse, and monitor. If you don't already have them.
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826104178
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009266


    As for OS - well, either use one you already have a license for, or install a W7 trial, or pirate, whatever works for you. Mydigitallife.info has some useful things, cough.


    If you need a computer building guide, search google, there are hundreds of them... literally. It's simple as long as you read the manuals your stuff comes with, and a guide.
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  • npramirez
    npramirez Posts: 78 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    WOW mk16, I really appreciate that info. I've already started watching a few youtube videos on building. THe mouse, keyboard and monitor are taken care of and this should be all the information I need. THank you so much!
  • mk16
    mk16 Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    By the way, the reason I only listed Gigabyte boards is because Gigabyte uses dual BIOS chips on all their new boards.

    If the BIOS gets bricked on a board without a backup... you gotta send it back.
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