With how the Variable robot was originally designed, it was pretty much MADE for being sold for 1000 Zen. Well that is until the price change.
Just look at the concept. It has layers of parts and alternate pieces. Not just one pair of shoulder pads. Not just one pair of bracers. I would easily buy that for $10.
We're waiting for the second group of pieces to get added once these are fixed.
Yeah. I was really looking forward to the WHOLE thing, and was prepared to pay for that. Seeing so much get cut, especially pieces I was REALLY looking forward to (like the sword/pistol) was absolutely devastating.
Alright im going to be blunt about this, i was really surprised when they decided that they're going to make the variable robot set, but this set right now in its current doesnt truely live up to what the concept art shows.
I may seem like im complaining now but a lot of the parts seem like they're too clunky, big and generally clip in all the wrong places.
As i cannot access the PTS i cannot give much feedback but from what is shown here, a lot of the parts seem a bit too clunky.
Also a lot is missing, the arm blades and guns that are drawn aren't even included, im scared to even see what my set is going to look like if this is considered 'finished'. Include as much as you can cryptic because right now it seems extremely rushed. What is drawn in the concept art is what we expect to see, if you cannot include it for any reason once so ever.. at least give us a reason why, otherwise there is no excuse.
Im one to rarely complain but right now i feel sorry for Meeda.
Take this set back and rework it a bit more, check out the concept art again and take some tips from the community, just rework it entirely and make a bit more sleeker... more fitting to the body and less clunky.
Take your time if you have to, no offense to the artist that had to model it but it feels rushed.
I've been on the PTS, I was looking EXTREMELY forward to this set, so, here are my current thoughts. I do apologize if I may be rinsing and repeating some concerns already stated;
1) Incomplete Set: This seems to be only based off one of the concepts, which was the flight type. The full art picture showed MULTIPLE parts, from medium armor bits, tank parts, weapon arms, etc. I would hope that what is on the PTS, is NOT the complete product, and more is going to be added.
2) Needs refinement: I know the parts are listed strangely in the costume list since it's on PTS, that part doesn't bother me too much. What bothers me is the lack of polish right now. I try to adjust the body size of say, shoulders, legs, etc, and SOME of the pieces don't adjust. I find the current look to be WAY too clunky compared to the original art piece, so when I try to shrink the shoulders...only the 'body' shoulders shrink...but not the shoulder pieces. I would hope this is just an oversight or something that hasn't been implemented yet. It's the same thing with the chest, WAY too bulky. I try to shrink the chest, only the upper body shrinks, leaving a HUGE gut that's just...wrong.
3) Needs Re-working: A friend of mine saw this and she was disappointed in the look. The current wings look almost NOTHING like the original, which showed A LOT of detail. Currently, the backpack is too...simple? No curved wings or anything like that, to make it seem dynamic or stand out. The gloves don't seem finished, it's just a model that doesn't seem textured (the original art showed the joints and all those things that help the fingers open, close, etc). Heck, the current tights seems like a re-work of an already existing set of tights. Both of which are just lines across the body. The original art piece together as a whole was AMAZING and emphasized that even the tights should look robotic.
I could 'nitpick' more on this, but I don't think it's my place to criticize too much as I am no moddeler myself. I do really, REALLY hope, that the team puts their heart and soul into this. I LOVE anime and especially mecha, and I've found CO with a huge case of lacking mech and mecha. City of Heroes/Villains had the right idea releasing it's mecha set during it's running time, so I hope Cryptic will do the same and bring us this set, and hopefully more robot/mecha sets in the future. That's my 2 cents for the day.
If they fix some of the issues they already said they're interested in fixing(clipping, parts in not enough categories, use of all 3 basic materials) and maybe angle those wings a little bit... I'd say it isn't all that terrible of a costume set by itself, it isn't worth 1000zen imo but it isn't a totally wasted effort. Sure the concept art had a lot of other neat things that would have been cool if they were included, but concept art is just that...a concept, something to give the modeler a basic idea to work around and subject to change depending on the time, effort, and resources available.
I doubt I will be running out to buy this one the very day it is released, I currently do not have any big robots in my roster that need this... but maybe some day if the mood strikes me I might decide to pick it up.(though the price might be a factor, I'll have to wait and see.)
Or, y'know, they've said all there is to say for now, and (as LadyGadfly revealed in chat last night) they're adding a week to the development cycle to address some of our quite valid concerns regarding this piece and will let us know when the next revision is ready...
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Or, y'know, they've said all there is to say for now, and (as LadyGadfly revealed in chat last night) they're adding a week to the development cycle to address some of our quite valid concerns regarding this piece and will let us know when the next revision is ready...
That's good to know jon. Thanks for the information.
I have been trying to test a few of the updates on the test server, but so far, I get about 15 minutes into playing and all of a sudden, my entire PC restarts. I've had it happen 4 times thus far, and I'm doing something and standing somewhere totally different every time.
I have also tested my temperature and it's remaining within 30-35C.
I think it's pretty obvious that the dev(s) working on this costume set were simply handed the concept picture as displayed in the Media link of the CO site. That picture just shows the robot costume.
And if that one robot picture was all that there was to the submission, I'd say they copied the look very well and would just need to work on the resizing and clipping issues. But there was more to the concept design that isn't displayed on the Media page. Thus why we expect more.
Or, y'know, they've said all there is to say for now, and (as LadyGadfly revealed in chat last night) they're adding a week to the development cycle to address some of our quite valid concerns regarding this piece and will let us know when the next revision is ready...
The usual.
Their maximum delay in these situations seems to be one additional week, not enough time to make any significant changes, certainly nothing like the set deserves to make this set on par with the other prize winners.
It's going live, make no mistake about that, no matter what state it's in.
Is zone chat really the proper place to reveal significant news when we have been begging them for additional feedback here?
Nice to kown, while we're going to still have butt-hurt people like comment above me, hopefully they will fix and flesh out. While I have to agree they chuold of said here but oh well, what said is said.
Or, y'know, they've said all there is to say for now, and (as LadyGadfly revealed in chat last night) they're adding a week to the development cycle to address some of our quite valid concerns regarding this piece and will let us know when the next revision is ready...
Wait when did they say this?, I guess I was asleep, but good to kown like I said..
Their maximum delay in these situations seems to be one additional week, not enough time to make any significant changes, certainly nothing like the set deserves to make this set on par with the other prize winners.
It's going live, make no mistake about that, no matter what state it's in.
Is zone chat really the proper place to reveal significant news when we have been begging them for additional feedback here?
They can't do more than they're allowed to, really. I doubt they're even allowed to cancel the set's release, especially after the blog stating for a fact it's coming out. The higher-ups probably don't understand the situation, nor care.
I think we should just encourage the devs to merely do what they can do for now.
I think it's pretty obvious that the dev(s) working on this costume set were simply handed the concept picture as displayed in the Media link of the CO site. That picture just shows the robot costume.
And if that one robot picture was all that there was to the submission, I'd say they copied the look very well and would just need to work on the resizing and clipping issues. But there was more to the concept design that isn't displayed on the Media page. Thus why we expect more.
And if that one robot picture on Arc media page is all that there was to the submission despite links to the full concept being submitted to CO Facebook gallery as well, it's the management fault for not looking for more.
For not asking the community manager if there was anything more.
And then there's the small thing that engine gondolas on the back are nearly the same as on smaller drawings, so it looks like an entire art was shown.
Also, CrypticProper having only Arc media picture makes them look unprepared.
Because it means that there's no communication between different branches in company.
One branch started the contest and voted projects, the second branch was realising it, and downloaded concept or player comments were not passed from one branch to another. Like, for an example, they did understand that concept was popular, but not why it was popular. So things cut out were mostly these more popular ideas, like guns and weapons.
What was left in was the most generic thing which is, I suppose, OK for most voters, but not that many people were waiting for (it's not that appealing unless you own any of the Hawkwing or VTOL vehicles and only them).
It's usual chaos and lack of communication. It's just a different reason. Not the modeler's fault, the management's one.
Overall, the Urban Anime, the Scientist, now the Variable Robot, are sets that are slap in the face for everyone on this forum who was actually advocating rise in prices for costumes. Myself included.
It really doesn't give any hopes for this game and its new direction.
Unfortunately, the costume set was scheduled for release, some work was done on it, so it will be released, whatever its state will be.
I don't really believe in any changes made to it aside of fixing technical bugs, so... *shrug*
I do hope the set will flop.
Not because I think it will change anything with the Variable Robot. No. This set is already done.
A week or so it's about enough to fix things, doublecheck textures and scaling and whatnot.
But this set selling poorly is the only way the company may learn and not repeat it in the future. And by the company I mean the decision makers, not the people charged with execution.
Seriously. let them work on another set, and try this one again some other time. Releasing it in a form anything like this is an insult to the designer.
It's not an insult, but the way I see it's more like a mismanagement resulting in a wasted opportunity.
The costume will miss being bought by people, who actually had intent of buying it, because they aren't really interested in exclusively Hawkwing jet costume.
We should encourage them to NOT RELEASE THE SET if it's not going to get much better than the pathetic crap it is now.
Seriously. let them work on another set, and try this one again some other time. Releasing it in a form anything like this is an insult to the designer.
The thing is, do we really know if they have control over which sets can get released and which get held back? Or do the higher-ups we don't get to converse with do that?
They read our posts. They see our concerns. But if their bosses decide what goes where once developed(or in this case, partially developed), all we can do is convince the devs to try convincing their bosses.
We should encourage them to NOT RELEASE THE SET if it's not going to get much better than the pathetic crap it is now.
Seriously. let them work on another set, and try this one again some other time. Releasing it in a form anything like this is an insult to the designer.
All I can do is laugh, I agree with you, but all I can do is laugh.
Do you think it was necessary for the people to still be hurt?, to comment like that?
No?
I expect people that haven't even heard of it yet to come in here and post long after we've forgotten about it. No sense in assuming everyone saw the news right when it was first posted.
if you are worried about the designer's feelings then you should try your best to get this costume put on hold.
If we are this outraged at the current set, how do you think someone will react if they actually paid for it? At the new price range no less. I know I would want my money back.
I expect people that haven't even heard of it yet to come in here and post long after we've forgotten about it. No sense in assuming everyone saw the news right when it
Yeah, that's true, and makes sense too and even with the news they saw, people will still complain, but oh well, lel, its human nature to complain
But some out-there, who do, are a little bit over the top.
If we are this outraged at the current set, how do you think someone will react if they actually paid for it? At the new price range no less. I know I would want my money back.
That's an pretty good qeastion, while some chuold see before they buy it in the tailor and images, before buying it, then I guess they are alright, and if they still did buy it and then became outraged, then its their own fault, but if they maybe did it by mistake by miss-clicking or so, then yeah, but really unsure how someone chuold do that. So that is an REALLY good qeastion.
Hey cry? How's that application for CO GM/Moderator going?
I know this was or tryed to be an joke , but I am going to give you the real answer for it, Not good, as I don't think there is even an Job Application for one, I looked in the Arc website unless im blind and can't find it, one of the two.
But yeah, really bad ,oh and for some reason when people call me "Cry", they keep thinking im that famous You Tuber, Cry. Unsure if you kown him, but its really awkward, I wish there was a way to change your account name on the forums
Suggestion: Over half of the costume pieces given in the suggestion for the Variable Robot set are MISSING! These would be the Double Intakes and Robotic Heavy Tank Chestpieces, the Tank Cannon and Jetpack Heavy Armored Turbine Backpieces, Robotic Heavy Boots, Robotic Windshield Shoulderpads, Variable Weapons (Pistol, Heavy Weapons, Martial Arts Blade), Long Glove Barrel/Blade, a version of the tights that has the plated armor as suggested, Short Hands version of the current Handpieces without the excess armor on the forearm.
Suggestion: The Armor Plating that is currently missing on the tights can also be individual pieces on their own such as Chest Pieces, Arm Accessories, Leg Accessories, Bracers, Feet, and Shoulder options. This would allow players to use these pieces on more than just the tights that come with the set, which is always nice.
Suggestion: The Camouflage patterns suggested with the set aren't available. Please add this.
Bug: All pieces should have the bare minimum of Cloth, Leather, and Metal options. These costume pieces do not have them yet.
Bug: Leg and Feet options force the character to be using Robotic Leg Types.
Bug: Left/Right options are tagged separately and are unavailable when trying to select them using "Both".
Bug: Variable Arm pieces are unable to be removed once applied if you are using a category other than the respective Robotic Arm category of the Variable Arm you wish to remove. This happens because they are separate pieces and do not fit under the normal "Arms" category, instead they exist in "Arms Left" or "Arms Right". These should be "Bracer" and "Arm Accessory" Options instead of "Arms" options.
Hope this feedback helps you fix up the set to be the awesome set it should be and not some rushed garbage that would make the creator of this concept upset.
Suggestion: Over half of the costume pieces given in the suggestion for the Variable Robot set are MISSING! These would be the Double Intakes and Robotic Heavy Tank Chestpieces, the Tank Cannon and Jetpack Heavy Armored Turbine Backpieces, Robotic Heavy Boots, Robotic Windshield Shoulderpads, Variable Weapons (Pistol, Heavy Weapons, Martial Arts Blade), Long Glove Barrel/Blade, a version of the tights that has the plated armor as suggested, Short Hands version of the current Handpieces without the excess armor on the forearm.
Suggestion: The Armor Plating that is currently missing on the tights can also be individual pieces on their own such as Chest Pieces, Arm Accessories, Leg Accessories, Bracers, Feet, and Shoulder options. This would allow players to use these pieces on more than just the tights that come with the set, which is always nice.
Suggestion: The Camouflage patterns suggested with the set aren't available. Please add this.
Bug: All pieces should have the bare minimum of Cloth, Leather, and Metal options. These costume pieces do not have them yet.
Bug: Leg and Feet options force the character to be using Robotic Leg Types.
Bug: Left/Right options are tagged separately and are unavailable when trying to select them using "Both".
Bug: Variable Arm pieces are unable to be removed once applied if you are using a category other than the respective Robotic Arm category of the Variable Arm you wish to remove. This happens because they are separate pieces and do not fit under the normal "Arms" category, instead they exist in "Arms Left" or "Arms Right". These should be "Bracer" and "Arm Accessory" Options instead of "Arms" options.
Hope this feedback helps you fix up the set to be the awesome set it should be and not some rushed garbage that would make the creator of this concept upset.
I gotta say that I am very much in approval of those suggestions, Turando.
You kown...now Im starting to feel everyone pain, why did they not say on here?, it whuold of cleared up alot, I won't be on the PC for a week the following week after this next one, and I can bet you the "update" to this PTS won't be out by then.
You kown...now Im starting to feel everyone pain, why did they not say on here?, it whuold of cleared up alot, I won't be on the PC for a week the following week after this next one, and I can bet you the "update" to this PTS won't be out by then.
I'm betting it right now...
Gads, I hope not. As it stands, this thing ain't ready for prime time.
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This is the exact kind of crap that people have been raging against. I honestly think they would have made this the $10 if they thought they could get away with it.
It lacks quality, it doesn't follow the artist's vision for it, and it really does look like they couldn't be bothered to try on it. I know a lot of people are looking forward to this set, but to do what they did and try to run with it, is the exact kind of thing that makes so many people drop this game.
I'm really hoping they are taking the feedback from this seriously. They need to scrap this model and redo it, making sure to add in the extra bits, allowing the various vehicle forms. If they actually put in effort, and not Cryptic's usual standard of "nothing to half a butt cheek", they could make a lot of money off this concept.
The transformer's fans will eat it up.
The people who already use this as a character concept will love it.
People will likely get vehicles just to make this concept.
They could add various versions (as less expensive costumes) for each vehicle.
I know there is only a handful of staff on CO, and Cryptic/pwe really couldn't care less, but don't disservice the fans or the artist who made the concept. If done right, people will through money at you. If done the Cryptic way, people will toss you the bird and spend their money else where. As it is, I wouldn't even waste stipend zen on this, let alone real money. And considering how little there is to spend free zen on, maybe Cryptic should do a little more than just toss out a cheap knock off of a costume they didn't even design.
The people who already use this as a character concept will love it.
People will likely get vehicles just to make this concept.
As someone who meets the criteria for all three of those, I can confirm this. Would LOVE to see this set released in its full glory and it would indeed change my CO experience(and spending habits) drastically.
OK but you already said that, I'm afraid if you repeat it too much people will start overreacting as usual and then the thread will be screwed up by overzealous moderation
OK but you already said that, I'm afraid if you repeat it too much people will start overreacting as usual and then the thread will be screwed up by overzealous moderation
Oh don't worry, I've still got an week left, before I vanish for an week, so Im guessing what I said before might be true, no update!
Edit: Oh if you read into the topic, they have replied...
ok, you've scared off the ART dev.
They are now hiding in the corner, flinching at the sight of a 3d model.
TT has had to install cardboard cutouts around them to keep them calm.
Just curious, its been what a week now since we heard anything from anyone at Cryptic. No feed back on our feed back. We need to know what is going on, are they going to listen and hold off the release until they can do it right, or are they going to ignore us and just hope they get enough new players that buy it not knowing any better so it doesn't look like a complete flop.
Seriously, lack of real communication with the Devs about player feed back was one of the main reasons I stopped playing DCUO completely instead of splitting my time between it and CO.
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I have sadly gotten used to it after the many year's I have played games..Starting with the former SOE with Everquest Star wars galaxies.....Grrrr...Lol sorry still very bitter about that after working so hard to get a maxed out creature handler and then Tabula Rasa beta.....
So after all that i tend to get used to the silence of devs and such.
I have sadly gotten used to it after the many year's I have played games..Starting with the former SOE with Everquest Star wars galaxies.....Grrrr...Lol sorry still very bitter about that after working so hard to get a maxed out creature handler and then Tabula Rasa beta.....
So after all that i tend to get used to the silence of devs and such.
We should be used to it here, given the history of Dev communication. Though it could also mean they are busy making changes.
Really, how long does it take to have their community manager respond?
Correct me if I'm mistaken but doesn't TT work on multiple games? I'm not saying its okay for this to have gone on for this long without communication but as it has been suggested, it could be that they are off making changes.
After all the amount of feedback on here from players has been great, especially from the creator of the set, so they have a lot to work on, so that could be why.
Really, how long does it take to have their community manager respond?
Apparently longer than we have currently waited?
*shrugs* Personally I do not blame him. While MANY have given great feedback, there have been plenty of people giving horrible and insulting feedback-or feedback that can be read that way. I wouldn't expect anything until the next patch and the notes to go along with that.
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Yeah. I was really looking forward to the WHOLE thing, and was prepared to pay for that. Seeing so much get cut, especially pieces I was REALLY looking forward to (like the sword/pistol) was absolutely devastating.
I may seem like im complaining now but a lot of the parts seem like they're too clunky, big and generally clip in all the wrong places.
As i cannot access the PTS i cannot give much feedback but from what is shown here, a lot of the parts seem a bit too clunky.
Also a lot is missing, the arm blades and guns that are drawn aren't even included, im scared to even see what my set is going to look like if this is considered 'finished'. Include as much as you can cryptic because right now it seems extremely rushed. What is drawn in the concept art is what we expect to see, if you cannot include it for any reason once so ever.. at least give us a reason why, otherwise there is no excuse.
Im one to rarely complain but right now i feel sorry for Meeda.
Take this set back and rework it a bit more, check out the concept art again and take some tips from the community, just rework it entirely and make a bit more sleeker... more fitting to the body and less clunky.
Take your time if you have to, no offense to the artist that had to model it but it feels rushed.
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1) Incomplete Set: This seems to be only based off one of the concepts, which was the flight type. The full art picture showed MULTIPLE parts, from medium armor bits, tank parts, weapon arms, etc. I would hope that what is on the PTS, is NOT the complete product, and more is going to be added.
2) Needs refinement: I know the parts are listed strangely in the costume list since it's on PTS, that part doesn't bother me too much. What bothers me is the lack of polish right now. I try to adjust the body size of say, shoulders, legs, etc, and SOME of the pieces don't adjust. I find the current look to be WAY too clunky compared to the original art piece, so when I try to shrink the shoulders...only the 'body' shoulders shrink...but not the shoulder pieces. I would hope this is just an oversight or something that hasn't been implemented yet. It's the same thing with the chest, WAY too bulky. I try to shrink the chest, only the upper body shrinks, leaving a HUGE gut that's just...wrong.
3) Needs Re-working: A friend of mine saw this and she was disappointed in the look. The current wings look almost NOTHING like the original, which showed A LOT of detail. Currently, the backpack is too...simple? No curved wings or anything like that, to make it seem dynamic or stand out. The gloves don't seem finished, it's just a model that doesn't seem textured (the original art showed the joints and all those things that help the fingers open, close, etc). Heck, the current tights seems like a re-work of an already existing set of tights. Both of which are just lines across the body. The original art piece together as a whole was AMAZING and emphasized that even the tights should look robotic.
I could 'nitpick' more on this, but I don't think it's my place to criticize too much as I am no moddeler myself. I do really, REALLY hope, that the team puts their heart and soul into this. I LOVE anime and especially mecha, and I've found CO with a huge case of lacking mech and mecha. City of Heroes/Villains had the right idea releasing it's mecha set during it's running time, so I hope Cryptic will do the same and bring us this set, and hopefully more robot/mecha sets in the future. That's my 2 cents for the day.
I doubt I will be running out to buy this one the very day it is released, I currently do not have any big robots in my roster that need this... but maybe some day if the mood strikes me I might decide to pick it up.(though the price might be a factor, I'll have to wait and see.)
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That's good to know jon. Thanks for the information.
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I have also tested my temperature and it's remaining within 30-35C.
And if that one robot picture was all that there was to the submission, I'd say they copied the look very well and would just need to work on the resizing and clipping issues. But there was more to the concept design that isn't displayed on the Media page. Thus why we expect more.
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The usual.
Their maximum delay in these situations seems to be one additional week, not enough time to make any significant changes, certainly nothing like the set deserves to make this set on par with the other prize winners.
It's going live, make no mistake about that, no matter what state it's in.
Is zone chat really the proper place to reveal significant news when we have been begging them for additional feedback here?
Wait when did they say this?, I guess I was asleep, but good to kown like I said..
I think we should just encourage the devs to merely do what they can do for now.
Was that really necessary?
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you've got a person who has been dumped with a , not exactly simple costume to make.
Try not to scare them off, they may be the only art dev we have.
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And if that one robot picture on Arc media page is all that there was to the submission despite links to the full concept being submitted to CO Facebook gallery as well, it's the management fault for not looking for more.
For not asking the community manager if there was anything more.
And then there's the small thing that engine gondolas on the back are nearly the same as on smaller drawings, so it looks like an entire art was shown.
Also, CrypticProper having only Arc media picture makes them look unprepared.
Because it means that there's no communication between different branches in company.
One branch started the contest and voted projects, the second branch was realising it, and downloaded concept or player comments were not passed from one branch to another. Like, for an example, they did understand that concept was popular, but not why it was popular. So things cut out were mostly these more popular ideas, like guns and weapons.
What was left in was the most generic thing which is, I suppose, OK for most voters, but not that many people were waiting for (it's not that appealing unless you own any of the Hawkwing or VTOL vehicles and only them).
It's usual chaos and lack of communication. It's just a different reason. Not the modeler's fault, the management's one.
Overall, the Urban Anime, the Scientist, now the Variable Robot, are sets that are slap in the face for everyone on this forum who was actually advocating rise in prices for costumes. Myself included.
It really doesn't give any hopes for this game and its new direction.
Unfortunately, the costume set was scheduled for release, some work was done on it, so it will be released, whatever its state will be.
I don't really believe in any changes made to it aside of fixing technical bugs, so... *shrug*
I do hope the set will flop.
Not because I think it will change anything with the Variable Robot. No. This set is already done.
A week or so it's about enough to fix things, doublecheck textures and scaling and whatnot.
But this set selling poorly is the only way the company may learn and not repeat it in the future. And by the company I mean the decision makers, not the people charged with execution.
It's not an insult, but the way I see it's more like a mismanagement resulting in a wasted opportunity.
The costume will miss being bought by people, who actually had intent of buying it, because they aren't really interested in exclusively Hawkwing jet costume.
It's more practical than personal.
They read our posts. They see our concerns. But if their bosses decide what goes where once developed(or in this case, partially developed), all we can do is convince the devs to try convincing their bosses.
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Do you think it was necessary for the people to still be hurt?, to comment like that?
No?
Then It was, if you don;t like it, then sorry
All I can do is laugh, I agree with you, but all I can do is laugh.
Hey cry? How's that application for CO GM/Moderator going?
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If we are this outraged at the current set, how do you think someone will react if they actually paid for it? At the new price range no less. I know I would want my money back.
Yeah, that's true, and makes sense too and even with the news they saw, people will still complain, but oh well, lel, its human nature to complain
But some out-there, who do, are a little bit over the top.
That's an pretty good qeastion, while some chuold see before they buy it in the tailor and images, before buying it, then I guess they are alright, and if they still did buy it and then became outraged, then its their own fault, but if they maybe did it by mistake by miss-clicking or so, then yeah, but really unsure how someone chuold do that. So that is an REALLY good qeastion.
Anyone want to clear it up?
I know this was or tryed to be an joke
But yeah, really bad
Suggestion: Over half of the costume pieces given in the suggestion for the Variable Robot set are MISSING! These would be the Double Intakes and Robotic Heavy Tank Chestpieces, the Tank Cannon and Jetpack Heavy Armored Turbine Backpieces, Robotic Heavy Boots, Robotic Windshield Shoulderpads, Variable Weapons (Pistol, Heavy Weapons, Martial Arts Blade), Long Glove Barrel/Blade, a version of the tights that has the plated armor as suggested, Short Hands version of the current Handpieces without the excess armor on the forearm.
Suggestion: The Armor Plating that is currently missing on the tights can also be individual pieces on their own such as Chest Pieces, Arm Accessories, Leg Accessories, Bracers, Feet, and Shoulder options. This would allow players to use these pieces on more than just the tights that come with the set, which is always nice.
Suggestion: The Camouflage patterns suggested with the set aren't available. Please add this.
Bug: All pieces should have the bare minimum of Cloth, Leather, and Metal options. These costume pieces do not have them yet.
Bug: Leg and Feet options force the character to be using Robotic Leg Types.
Bug: Left/Right options are tagged separately and are unavailable when trying to select them using "Both".
Bug: Variable Arm pieces are unable to be removed once applied if you are using a category other than the respective Robotic Arm category of the Variable Arm you wish to remove. This happens because they are separate pieces and do not fit under the normal "Arms" category, instead they exist in "Arms Left" or "Arms Right". These should be "Bracer" and "Arm Accessory" Options instead of "Arms" options.
Hope this feedback helps you fix up the set to be the awesome set it should be and not some rushed garbage that would make the creator of this concept upset.
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I gotta say that I am very much in approval of those suggestions, Turando.
Nice one.
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I asked Lady Gadfly about it the other day, they are. I know that they're at least adding more categories.
It lacks quality, it doesn't follow the artist's vision for it, and it really does look like they couldn't be bothered to try on it. I know a lot of people are looking forward to this set, but to do what they did and try to run with it, is the exact kind of thing that makes so many people drop this game.
I'm really hoping they are taking the feedback from this seriously. They need to scrap this model and redo it, making sure to add in the extra bits, allowing the various vehicle forms. If they actually put in effort, and not Cryptic's usual standard of "nothing to half a butt cheek", they could make a lot of money off this concept.
The transformer's fans will eat it up.
The people who already use this as a character concept will love it.
People will likely get vehicles just to make this concept.
They could add various versions (as less expensive costumes) for each vehicle.
I know there is only a handful of staff on CO, and Cryptic/pwe really couldn't care less, but don't disservice the fans or the artist who made the concept. If done right, people will through money at you. If done the Cryptic way, people will toss you the bird and spend their money else where. As it is, I wouldn't even waste stipend zen on this, let alone real money. And considering how little there is to spend free zen on, maybe Cryptic should do a little more than just toss out a cheap knock off of a costume they didn't even design.
Prime Time?, the only thing I kown what Prime Time is Warframe, but yeah, I hope not
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I have to agree. This has the potential to be huge, maybe more so than the Holoforce/Psionic Dragon sets, because of the vehicle tie-in.
Really.
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It's already isn't being used as requested.
Oh don't worry, I've still got an week left, before I vanish for an week, so Im guessing what I said before might be true, no update!
Edit: Oh if you read into the topic, they have replied...
They are now hiding in the corner, flinching at the sight of a 3d model.
TT has had to install cardboard cutouts around them to keep them calm.
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Seriously, lack of real communication with the Devs about player feed back was one of the main reasons I stopped playing DCUO completely instead of splitting my time between it and CO.
So after all that i tend to get used to the silence of devs and such.
We should be used to it here, given the history of Dev communication. Though it could also mean they are busy making changes.
Really, how long does it take to have their community manager respond?
Correct me if I'm mistaken but doesn't TT work on multiple games? I'm not saying its okay for this to have gone on for this long without communication but as it has been suggested, it could be that they are off making changes.
After all the amount of feedback on here from players has been great, especially from the creator of the set, so they have a lot to work on, so that could be why.
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Apparently longer than we have currently waited?
*shrugs* Personally I do not blame him. While MANY have given great feedback, there have been plenty of people giving horrible and insulting feedback-or feedback that can be read that way. I wouldn't expect anything until the next patch and the notes to go along with that.
Also, holy crap. This still isn't done?
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Better to spend more time working, and then comment after the next build on PTS.
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