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Fallen Angel Build Help

outdatedsandwichoutdatedsandwich Posts: 13 Arc User
edited May 2015 in Power Discussion
Hi guys,

I'm trying to make a fallen angel build, i'd like it to be a Darkness/Celestial build but i'm not sure of the effectiveness of either of those powersets. I'm open to suggestions on how I could make a character with a Dark Angel theme.

Any help is greatly appreciated,

Thanks
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  • ealford1985ealford1985 Posts: 3,594 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    So one of my characters is a fallen angel but you would never know by looking at him.

    I'm the last person to give advice on builds but I went with this ideas...

    Okay, so you were an immortal with celestial powers but now you are cast down. Can you die? Weren't you stripped of all powers? Maybe you can die but you can't age? What would an ageless person use to be a hero?

    Answer: SCIENCE!

    A fallen angel I would think should be like Highlander, a loner who just seems to attract trouble. So instead of giving him celestial powers give him the power of centuries of knowledge. I did give my guy one celestial power as he uses it in desperation, like tapping into a lost power.
  • roughbearmattachroughbearmattach Posts: 4,785 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    For powers . . .

    If you want to mix Celestial and Darkness powers, decide if you will focus on offense, focus on healing, or really mix the two.

    Next, decide if you want to run hybrid role, Ranged DPS role, Support role. If DPS, choose Shadow Form, if healing, choose Seraphim, if hybrid, then I don't know. Either Seraphim or Shadow Form would work, but so would Aura of Primal Majesty.
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  • outdatedsandwichoutdatedsandwich Posts: 13 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    I'd want to use a hybrid role, I quite like Aura of Primal Majesty. He's a fallen angel but still an angel, so I'd like him to still use celestial somewhat, but deal a not-inconsequential amount of damage. I'm not too bothered what powers are used to deal this damage, though, as long as they're thematically possible for an angel, if that makes sense?
  • flowcytoflowcyto Posts: 12,859 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Here's a Celestial/Darkness dps-oriented build I've used in the past.

    PowerHouse (Link to this build)

    Super Stats:
    Level 6: Intelligence (Primary)
    Level 10: Constitution (Secondary)
    Level 15: Endurance (Secondary)

    Talents:
    Level 1: The Glacier
    Level 6: Healthy Mind
    Level 9: Boundless Reserves
    Level 12: Investigator
    Level 15: Quick Recovery
    Level 18: Negotiator
    Level 21: Amazing Stamina

    Powers:
    Level 1: Radiance
    Level 1: Shadow Blast (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 6: Spirit Reverberation
    Level 8: Concentration
    Level 11: Aura of Primal Majesty (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 14: Celestial Conduit (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 17: Shadow Embrace (Rank 2, Dark Displacement)
    Level 20: Ebon Ruin (Rank 2, Nyctophobia, Paranormal Paranoia)
    Level 23: Illumination (Brilliance)
    Level 26: Masterful Dodge
    Level 29: Ebon Void (Rank 2, Voracious Darkness)
    Level 32: Redemption (Salvation)
    Level 35: Ascension (Rank 2)
    Level 38: Palliate (Absolve)

    Travel Powers:
    Level 6:
    Level 35:

    Specializations:
    Intelligence: Preparation (2/2)
    Intelligence: Enlightened (3/3)
    Intelligence: Detect Vulnerability (3/3)
    Intelligence: Expertise (2/2)
    Avenger: Ruthless (2/2)
    Avenger: Round 'em Up (3/3)
    Avenger: Relentless Assault (3/3)
    Avenger: Offensive Expertise (2/2)
    Vindicator: Aggressive Stance (2/2)
    Vindicator: Merciless (3/3)
    Vindicator: Focused Strikes (3/3)
    Vindicator: Offensive Expertise (2/2)
    Mastery: Avenger Mastery (1/1)

    Its good when ya get the hang of pulsing Conduit for dps. Shadow Blast is for putting up Fear (mostly for Spirit Reverb to work) and to charge when Avenger Mastery procs. ERuin w/ Parara was taken for the 10% debuff to enhance all ur Paranormal dmg on single targets. Else ya fill the time w/ Conduit, using Shadow Embrace for easy AoE, or Illumination + Conduit for the multi-target chaining (could throw in Expulse or Vengeance for flair and extra CC, though that's entirely optional).

    AoPM will make energy management for Conduit easy, and allows ya to heal allies pretty well when paired w/ Illumination. Threw in Ascension and Redemption in there as well, for theme and group support. Gearing is mostly for Int and Con, w/ a side of Dex/crit (boosted by 30% via Enlightened).
    <CO stuff> .: Petco :. // A basic FF building guide (see 1st reply) // PSA on Power Activation Delay // Ayonachan's Gift Horse (misc stat data)
    - Be safe and have fun, champs - for science!
  • outdatedsandwichoutdatedsandwich Posts: 13 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    I'll give this one a go, thank you!
  • roughbearmattachroughbearmattach Posts: 4,785 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    For leveling, Illumination should come earlier, making Celestial conduit far more useful (for offense and defense). I would swap it with Concentration.
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    Whoever you are, be that person one hundred percent. Don't compromise on your identity.
  • outdatedsandwichoutdatedsandwich Posts: 13 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Hi,

    I think i'm getting the hang of tapping Conduit to get more DPS out of it. Are there any other attacks that would work better whilst still looking somewhat angelic/demonic thematically?
  • outdatedsandwichoutdatedsandwich Posts: 13 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Also, shameless bump, but would the build work as well using Seraphim?
  • roughbearmattachroughbearmattach Posts: 4,785 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    The build would work well with Seraphim, too, yes.

    If you stick with Seraphim or Shadow Form, you will want your main attack power to be Dimensional damage. You could possible use Skarn's Bane, colored light blue, perhaps. It uses a lot of energy, and doesn't do a ton of damage, but it's a cone with a nice debuff vs. some bosses.
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    Whoever you are, be that person one hundred percent. Don't compromise on your identity.
  • flowcytoflowcyto Posts: 12,859 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    roughbearmattach wrote: »
    For leveling, Illumination should come earlier, making Celestial conduit far more useful (for offense and defense). I would swap it with Concentration.
    Illumination could be bumped up in my build, sure, but I wouldn't swap it w/ the toggle- since that's also important. I included Shadow Embrace as an easier/cheaper AoE option when leveling (which, in hindsight, I'd prob bump up earlier if flying solo).

    Also, I'd dispute that Skarn's doesn't do much dmg. Its dps is actually pretty strong for an AoE, and its one of the (if not the) strongest Ranged cone AoEs. Main catch there, though, is that ya have to fully maintain it to get that dps, which is difficult to do for many builds (AoPM helps here, but Skarn's wouldn't work w/ Spirit Reverb either). But again, I included other, easier to manage AoE means, so Skarn's shouldn't be necessary (unless ya want its debuff specifically).
    <CO stuff> .: Petco :. // A basic FF building guide (see 1st reply) // PSA on Power Activation Delay // Ayonachan's Gift Horse (misc stat data)
    - Be safe and have fun, champs - for science!
  • roughbearmattachroughbearmattach Posts: 4,785 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    I only offered Skarn's as another attack option that could sub for Conduit and work with angelic theme.

    The DPS is tricky since it's such an energy hog, but isn't terrible. I have a toon that uses it as his main AoE--a sorcery Ranged DPS toon.
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    Whoever you are, be that person one hundred percent. Don't compromise on your identity.
  • flowcytoflowcyto Posts: 12,859 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    roughbearmattach wrote: »
    I only offered Skarn's as another attack option that could sub for Conduit and work with angelic theme.

    The DPS is tricky since it's such an energy hog, but isn't terrible. I have a toon that uses it as his main AoE--a sorcery Ranged DPS toon.

    Heck, if ya can manage the energy cost for full maintains constantly, then ya can make a decent Sorcery dps setup w/ it using Avenger Mastery, Relentless Assault, Eldritch Blast, and ER for the 10% debuff. Not the best ST dps out there, but considering its Sorcery and ur AoEing most of the time, its pretty nice.
    <CO stuff> .: Petco :. // A basic FF building guide (see 1st reply) // PSA on Power Activation Delay // Ayonachan's Gift Horse (misc stat data)
    - Be safe and have fun, champs - for science!
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