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Help Revive AT PVP!

gradiigradii Posts: 11,717 Arc User
edited April 2015 in The Hero Games
AT pvp is probably the last "balanced" pvp in CO, at least when compared to the mess which is unrestricted.

Not only that, AT PVP can be used to bring more dev attention to pvp in general since the majority of new players tend to use ATs, trying before (if) they sub as silvers.

I think it would be great of those interested in pvp, or who would be but are put off by the messy freeform pvp, would make a couple ATs for AT pvp.

I do AT bash and ZA with my blade and unleashed AT when I get the chance (although I'm currently mostly absent from CO- I hope to be back within a month or 2, and will be on for short periods in between) and I think it would be great if more people would help revitalize AT pvp.
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  • amyjiaamyjia Posts: 242 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    AT PvP is more balanced because the ATs themselves are more balanced with each other and each focuses on specific themes. They have strengths and weaknesses inherently.

    I am not one to put down the unrestricted games however. With experience and optimization, I believe an AT can do just fine in the unrestricted games. It does depend on what your expectations are though with any given AT. Even with ATs, there is quite a bit of customization you can do. Try things out for yourself and don't just go off of what other people tell you.

    That being said, I think having more AT specific PvP is a good idea and I would be happy to support it. :redface:
  • crypticbuxomcrypticbuxom Posts: 4,619 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Its all fine until you start seeing players stacking Necrul Elixer. Then it becomes pointless.
  • amyjiaamyjia Posts: 242 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Its all fine until you start seeing players stacking Necrul Elixer. Then it becomes pointless.

    Are you aware of the change that took place back in 2013 that only allows you to equip one copy of a certain legacy device at a time? The Elixir is no longer stackable and hasn't been so for quite a while unless I am misunderstanding what you mean by stacking.

    Here is a link to the Release Notes when the change first hit PTS.

    Scrolling down I see that you(crypticbuxom) actually made a post on that thread (post #5), so..

    Am I misunderstanding what you are saying here, did you just forget about this change to devices, or is something else afoot? :redface:
  • spinnytopspinnytop Posts: 16,450 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    gradii wrote: »
    AT pvp is probably the last "balanced" pvp in CO,

    You lost me. As someone who played AT pvp for a very long time, I have to disagree with this. AT PvP balance is an utter mess.



    The only way any pvp will be revived for anyone, is by the word "balance" being eliminated from the conversation. The only actual balanced pvp in CO is when those AOPM bullet clown builds duel each other.
  • purin1purin1 Posts: 433 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    The only difference between AT PvP and FF PvP is that AT's die while FF's do not (or just take way too long).

    As far as balance goes? AT PvP is still a far cry from being balanced.
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  • purin1purin1 Posts: 433 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    gradii wrote: »
    That's not what I've been seeing. I've seen automatons and lvl36 marksmen win bash just by playing smart.

    would an automaton win unrestricted bash?

    I don't understand how that has anything to do with what I said.

    I guess? Anyone can win a game of BASH as long as tagging exists.
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  • amyjiaamyjia Posts: 242 Arc User
    edited April 2015


    ATs are more balanced (when compared to the potential of FreeForms) because they have more defined strengths(Their powers and abilities) and weaknesses(what their powers and abilities do not account for or leave lacking) inherently.

    You won't usually find an AT who is a Jack of all trades AND highly proficient in all of those trades.

    Potentially a Freeform can be a Jack of all trades and highly proficient in all of those trades.

    Anyways, the point of this thread is to get people to utilize the AT specific Hero Games and to encourage people to possibly make some ATs for PvPing.

    Again, I do not have anything against the unrestricted queues nor Freeforms. It would just be nice if more ATs used the Hero Game queues that were made specifically for them, especially if you already have an AT. Having a more specific defined role can be fun.

    For those who have level 40 ATs: Maybe we can designate a certain day of the week or certain times each day AT PvP day/time when we come together and use ATs in PvP.

    For those who start a new AT: Maybe we can designate a certain day of the week or certain times each day AT PvP day/time when we come together and use ATs in PvP to Level.

    Just throwing some ideas out there. :redface:
  • stergiosmanstergiosman Posts: 717 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    I'm up for this, if you can schedule it I'll be there with a specialist or something
  • spinnytopspinnytop Posts: 16,450 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    gradii wrote: »
    would an automaton win unrestricted bash?

    Why would an archetype who's queing for unrestricted bash even go in expecting to do anything but get slaughtered?



    Oh wait now I get it, when you talk about unrestricted balance for some reason you're including "at vs ff" in that, and that's why you have the opinion that at pvp is more balanced.


    Here's a tip: No.
  • kallethenkallethen Posts: 1,576 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    I think the point wasn't that AT PvP is balanced; the point was that it's more balanced than Freeform.
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  • amyjiaamyjia Posts: 242 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Alright, I was waiting for a response from the OPer, but since they aren't going to be around a lot in the super near future, I will take on some accountability.

    Starting Friday 4-24-2015, I will officially start "The Hero Games Challenge - AT edition"(name may change if it even has an official name)

    ---This will just be a time for ATs to come together for the specific purpose of playing various Hero Games.

    ---This particular event will be focused on Tier 4 gameplay so if you have an AT that is lvl 31-40, then you can join!


    ---The event is Cancelled. Runtime 4-24-2015 -- 5-18-2015

    The goal will be for this to become a regular thing that happens whether or not there is someone there to "officially" oversee/advertise it or not.

    If you don't have an AT or if you have an AT, but it is not tier 4 yet, you still have time before the first event to level up! Also, the event will be everyday, so join in when you can.

    Screenshots of the Scores from the matches will be posted here on the forums (At least the matches that I am in). You will be able to find the scores of matches played on the previous day here, for the time being.

    Thanks a lot for Your support and I hope to see you in the Hero Games. :redface:
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