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Help with a Force Cascade build?

cinderskyescinderskyes Posts: 33 Arc User
edited April 2015 in Power Discussion
Hey, I'm newish to the game, been here about a month.

The build is currently based around spamming Imaginary Weapons (thank god for that, makes it look like it's firing from armor) TGM whenever I can't do my main cycle of Chest Beam -> Force Cascade (x1 or x2).

Currently pulling 3800-ish DPS which is a bit disappointing given the fact that I've got pretty good gear (Vigilante, Legion, a DUC) and it looks like 4700 is more standard for damage. I've got around 6500 HP, 84% Defense, and 17% Offense, so I'm not super durable either.

PowerHouse (Link to this build)

Name:

Archetype: Freeform

Super Stats:
Level 6: Ego (Primary)
Level 10: Intelligence (Secondary)
Level 15: Recovery (Secondary)

Talents:
Level 1: The Impulse
Level 6: Brilliant
Level 9: Indomitable
Level 12: Tireless
Level 15: Academics
Level 18: Negotiator
Level 21: Wordly

Powers:
Level 1: Force Bolts
Level 1: Two-Gun Mojo (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 6: Concentration
Level 8: Molecular Self-Assembly
Level 11: Aura of Primal Majesty (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 14: Chest Beam (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 17: Force Shield (Force Sheathe)
Level 20: Force Cascade (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 23: Unbreakable (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 26: Conviction (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 29: Lock N Load (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 32: Masterful Dodge
Level 35: Ascension
Level 38: Ego Surge (Rank 2, Nimble Mind)

Travel Powers:
Level 6: Flight (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 35: Lightning Flash (Rank 2)

Specializations:
Ego: Force of Will (2/2)
Ego: Insight (3/3)
Ego: Follow Through (2/3)
Ego: Sixth Sense (3/3)
Guardian: Fortified Gear (3/3)
Guardian: Ruthless (2/2)
Guardian: Find the Mark (2/3)
Guardian: The Best Defense (3/3)
Vindicator: Merciless (3/3)
Vindicator: Initiative (2/2)
Vindicator: Offensive Expertise (2/2)
Vindicator: Mass Destruction (3/3)
Mastery: Ego Mastery (1/1)
Post edited by cinderskyes on

Comments

  • aiqaaiqa Posts: 2,620 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Getting well over 4k dps from FC requires a well optimized dps build, AoPM in hybrid role is not going to do that.

    Switching guardian specs to Avenger (Preemptive Strike), and adding Force Blast would make your dps a bit higher, but would lower your defense a bit.
  • cyronecyrone Posts: 1,028 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Here is my Force themed character (slightly outdated).

    PowerHouse (Link to this build)

    Name: Nova Remnant

    Archetype: Freeform

    Super Stats:
    Level 6: Ego (Primary)
    Level 10: Intelligence (Secondary)
    Level 15: Recovery (Secondary)

    Talents:
    Level 1: The Impulse
    Level 6: Indomitable
    Level 9: Brilliant
    Level 12: Tireless
    Level 15: Academics
    Level 18: Negotiator
    Level 21: Wordly

    Powers:
    Level 1: Force Bolts (Energy Refraction)
    Level 1: Force Blast (Rank 2, Field Inversion)
    Level 6: Force Eruption (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 8: Quarry (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 11: Force Shield (Force Sheathe)
    Level 14: Force Geyser
    Level 17: Force Cascade (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 20: Molecular Self-Assembly
    Level 23: Concentration
    Level 26: Sonic Device (Rank 2, Deafening Dissolution)
    Level 29: Force Detonation (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 32: Ego Surge (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 35: Rebirth
    Level 38: Mind Link (Rank 2, Rank 3)

    Travel Powers:
    Level 6: Flight (Rank 2)
    Level 35:

    Specializations:
    Ego: Mental Endurance (2/3)
    Ego: Insight (3/3)
    Ego: Follow Through (3/3)
    Ego: Exploit Opening (2/2)
    Avenger: Can't Touch This (2/3)
    Avenger: Round 'em Up (3/3)
    Avenger: Offensive Expertise (2/2)
    Avenger: Preemptive Strike (3/3)
    Vindicator: Aggressive Stance (2/2)
    Vindicator: Merciless (3/3)
    Vindicator: Focused Strikes (2/3)
    Vindicator: Mass Destruction (3/3)
    Mastery: Ego Mastery (1/1)


    Nice Cascade damage. Even better crits (20k+).
    download_zpsfcg5gnud.jpg
    "There is only one way to support a PFF tank: Send Cyrone lots of money weekly... because he's the only one to successfully be a true PFF Tank." - chuckwolf
  • cinderskyescinderskyes Posts: 33 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    aiqa wrote: »
    Getting well over 4k dps from FC requires a well optimized dps build, AoPM in hybrid role is not going to do that.

    Switching guardian specs to Avenger (Preemptive Strike), and adding Force Blast would make your dps a bit higher, but would lower your defense a bit.

    That was actually what I tried first, with Quarry, I was only getting about 2800. TGM was a recent addition. I'm still stuck in the PoHo, so I can respec more, if necessary.

    @Cyrone: I actually tried using your build prior to posting and it wasn't getting good results for me, but I may have been overlooking how to play. how do you use geyser/eruption/detonation?
  • aiqaaiqa Posts: 2,620 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    cyrone wrote: »
    *snip*


    FC is going to eat Ego Surge, I'd switch Ego Surge to Lock N Load.
  • cyronecyrone Posts: 1,028 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    I don't use Ego Surge for firing off Cascade. I use it for the large Ego boost to increase the damage potential of Mind Link. :biggrin:
    download_zpsfcg5gnud.jpg
    "There is only one way to support a PFF tank: Send Cyrone lots of money weekly... because he's the only one to successfully be a true PFF Tank." - chuckwolf
  • aiqaaiqa Posts: 2,620 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    cyrone wrote: »
    I don't use Ego Surge for firing off Cascade. I use it for the large Ego boost to increase the damage potential of Mind Link. :biggrin:

    Ah that works :smile:

    This is my FC build, I get somewhere between 4k and 4.5k dps against dummies, with crits fluctuating between 20k and 30k.

    PowerHouse (Link to this build)

    Name: Kino

    Archetype: Freeform

    Super Stats:
    Level 6: Ego (Primary)
    Level 10: Intelligence (Secondary)
    Level 15: Recovery (Secondary)

    Talents:
    Level 1: The Impulse
    Level 6: Field Ops Training
    Level 9: Negotiator
    Level 12: Jack of All Trades
    Level 15: Academics
    Level 18: Command Training
    Level 21: Wordly

    Powers:
    Level 1: Force Bolts
    Level 1: Force Blast (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 6: Force Eruption (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 8: Quarry (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 11: Force Shield (Rank 2, Rank 3, Force Sheathe)
    Level 14: Conviction (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 17: Molecular Self-Assembly
    Level 20: Force Cascade (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 23: Concentration
    Level 26: Masterful Dodge
    Level 29: Lock N Load (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 32: Nanobot Swarm (Rejuvinating Injectors)
    Level 35: Rebirth
    Level 38: Evasive Maneuvers (Sleight of Mind)

    Travel Powers:
    Level 6: Athletics (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 35: Flight (Rank 2)

    Specializations:
    Ego: Mental Endurance (2/3)
    Ego: Insight (3/3)
    Ego: Follow Through (3/3)
    Ego: Sixth Sense (2/3)
    Avenger: Ruthless (2/2)
    Avenger: Round 'em Up (3/3)
    Avenger: Offensive Expertise (2/2)
    Avenger: Preemptive Strike (3/3)
    Vindicator: Merciless (3/3)
    Vindicator: Initiative (2/2)
    Vindicator: Focused Strikes (2/3)
    Vindicator: Mass Destruction (3/3)
    Mastery: Ego Mastery (1/1)
  • cinderskyescinderskyes Posts: 33 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Tried a TGM/Quarry/Avenger build and I'm only getting 3300 DPS in return for a lot of lost durability. What am I missing here?

    How well will the first build in the thread play in Rampages, Custom Alerts, and such? I noticed about 2/3 of my overall damage comes in cylinders which means I'm hitting multiple targets in many situations (F&I, alert adds, FM), but most seem to only have one target.

    PowerHouse (Link to this build)

    Name:

    Archetype: Freeform

    Super Stats:
    Level 6: Ego (Primary)
    Level 10: Intelligence (Secondary)
    Level 15: Recovery (Secondary)

    Talents:
    Level 1: The Impulse
    Level 6: Academics
    Level 9: Negotiator
    Level 12: Wordly
    Level 15: Brilliant
    Level 18: Indomitable
    Level 21: Tireless

    Powers:
    Level 1: Force Bolts
    Level 1: Force Blast (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 6: Two-Gun Mojo (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 8: Concentration
    Level 11: Molecular Self-Assembly
    Level 14: Conviction (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 17: Unbreakable (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 20: Force Cascade (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 23: Masterful Dodge
    Level 26: Lock N Load (Rank 2, Two Smoking Barrels)
    Level 29: Ego Surge (Rank 2, Nimble Mind)
    Level 32: Ascension
    Level 35: Force Shield (Force Sheathe)
    Level 38: Quarry (Rank 2, Rank 3)

    Travel Powers:
    Level 6: Flight (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 35: Lightning Flash (Rank 2)

    Specializations:
    Ego: Force of Will (2/2)
    Ego: Insight (3/3)
    Ego: Follow Through (2/3)
    Ego: Sixth Sense (3/3)
    Guardian: Fortified Gear (3/3)
    Guardian: Ruthless (2/2)
    Guardian: Find the Mark (2/3)
    Guardian: The Best Defense (3/3)
    Avenger: Ruthless (2/2)
    Avenger: Round 'em Up (3/3)
    Avenger: Relentless Assault (2/3)
    Avenger: Preemptive Strike (3/3)
    Mastery: Ego Mastery (1/1)
  • aiqaaiqa Posts: 2,620 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Vindicator specs are going to give a bit more dps than guardian.
    Nimble mind (and thus Ego Surge) are not important without any CON.
    Two Smoking Barrels is not going to do anything for you.

    The rest is due to rotation and practice, and gearing.
    To make the rotation work well I want to be able to do one fully charged FC and one Conviction without having to build energy. That is why I am using Mental Endurance over Force of Will, and I have one Growth Amulet in my utility gear.
  • cyronecyrone Posts: 1,028 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    aiqa wrote: »
    Vindicator specs are going to give a bit more dps than guardian.
    Nimble mind (and thus Ego Surge) are not important without any CON.
    Two Smoking Barrels is not going to do anything for you.

    The rest is due to rotation and practice, and gearing.
    To make the rotation work well I want to be able to do one fully charged FC and one Conviction without having to build energy. That is why I am using Mental Endurance over Force of Will, and I have one Growth Amulet in my utility gear.

    This is so right. Also I might suggest putting Refraction on Force Bolts, have it toggled constantly. Refraction will give your EB a chance to trigger an energy form for reduced Cascade cost.
    download_zpsfcg5gnud.jpg
    "There is only one way to support a PFF tank: Send Cyrone lots of money weekly... because he's the only one to successfully be a true PFF Tank." - chuckwolf
  • cinderskyescinderskyes Posts: 33 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    What does Nimble Mind have to do with Con? Not quite following there. Thank you for the information.
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  • cinderskyescinderskyes Posts: 33 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    bluegrassbeast wrote: »
    Nimble Mind's huge crit chance buff - the reason it's so popular in the first place - scales with Con.

    ...Why doesn't it say that anywhere in the advantage. @_@ Okay, thanks.

    Looks like to make this build higher DPS I have to sacrifice more survivability than I would like to, for conceptual reasons. If only there was a decent way to test durability in the Powerhouse...
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