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Warlord speedrun groups are ruining
spinnytop
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So when did they patch in that teleport that teleports you to the end of Warlord if the fight starts? Apparently I haven't not been in the room when the fight started before today xD
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Of course this happens in the smash alerts now too where you fight 3 tough henchmen first and people are just flying over them to the boss. And in other grab alerts, seems like run for the boss is now the new troll move.
My Interpret-O-tron is having fits with this one.
Are you saying:
-IF someone starts the fight with Warlord, ALL players get teleported INTO his room?
or
-something else
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This is the winning strategy and has been from the start.
Jump over the trash mobs, get the bosses attention, pull him through the trash mobs and bring the whole group of jerks to the police to take advantage of the extra fire power while hitting four enemies with five people's AoE.
Doing the same lame step of hitting the trash mobs, then going for the boss is a boring waste of time and can often lead to people being knocked into side mobs, causing more waste of time and maybe loss of the alert which was super common when that alert was for xp and had lower level characters.
If you want to be a chump and fight those first three enemies while I solo the boss back to the cops, be my guest.
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Except of the Annoying Speedrunners who rush to the Boss room locking all the PUG members out and some of the Rush just to SOLO the boss locking the other 4 out (if you do that you are Worst than Devil)
there are also Exploiters who somehow managed to find a way to Instant Teleport to Warlord Room
We had a WHOLE THREAD ABOUT IT here and I have no idea how they manage to do that? Exploit DEVs/GM Commands? Map Glitch?
This still hasn't been fixed? I chose correctly to NOT farm warlord this time, still recovering from the bad memories
It's definately that, you got it right.
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So I guess all new people playing in the last couple months and toons that can't fly are all chumps. Yeah, like I said...seems to be the new "thing" to screw other people over. Takes what? A quick stop with other people to drop those first three and then lure out the boss? Yeah so hard to do...
The point is some people can't bypass, I thought was clear. I've seen people get left in all sorts of places (in Warlord I've watch people get screwed bad) and then get wiped over and over because it.
Funny for a "hero" game to have people step up and proclaim that helping other people is the chump move and screwing them over is the in thing. Heroic.
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That's the pro raider/speed runner mentality for you. The superhero theme of the game means even less to them than the well-being of their fellow players, if that's even possible. The order of the day is total domination, grab everything you can get your hands on, and step over anyone who gets in the way.
There are plenty of ways Cryptic (or any studio) can deal with jackasses like this, but it requires them to pay close attention to what's going on in their game, and a willingness to make tough decisions. These can range from modifying existing content to head such problems off, all the way to perma-banning popular, high-profile offenders in order to send a harsh message.
Don't forget the the jerks who Bypass MOBs in Fury of the Dragon with Ascension to fly straight to Hi-pan, ignoring the PUG members
Those people need to get hit with a Bolt of Divine Retribution for doing that
It's not about 'screwing other people over'.
Most of the times i pull the boss to the 1st mob group.
Or wait that every villain group there gets aggroed when someone swooshes to them...
Sometimes it's no problem and sometime it is.
Tactics. Not just mindless run in and beat stuff up.
The door swings both ways.
I just rather use /bind "Hold on. Pulling the boss!"
But then again, some people are unable to read the chat.
So sometimes it's just easier to sit on a rooftop and eat popcorn.
And the 'teleporting to Warlord' is annoying as hell.
Devs just should make the Optional Rescue of Scientists mandatory, so you just can't run thru the map to the last room.
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Okay never mind, go back to calling each other evil for how you do smash alerts... u3u
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a) 5 eruptions to get invulnerability got fixed
b) you don't do ascension and fly over mobs(aggroing them and leaving them for others to deal with)
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There's a few things they could do to fix the Ascension exploit in Hi-Pan, including a "death wall" at the gap between the Spawn and Hi-Pan, as well as giving enemies the ability to NTTG people flying over the bridges and floating islands.
Yeah CO is a weird place...some people around here have really weird attitudes about the game. I don't think I'll ever understand how elitist some people can be about a game that's so casual... (and also the fact that it's never actually the players who are really good at the game being elitist .-.).
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Legitimate stuff... Honest.
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An auto kill for straying beyond the platforms before the boss screen activates would be glorious.
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Also, I'd be fine with speedrunning if everyone was considerate enough to form a full team of 5 if they planned on doing it, instead of using random pugs as a springboard into the alert. We do it all the time but we always form a full team if we want to ignore the mobs entirely so we don't leave 2/3 people behind.
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Your problem in alerts is entirely your problem. There's more than one solution to getting over or around the trash mobs. Adapt or die.
I'm assuming most toons by then have a travel power. (If not then I've lost all hope, /thread.) If so, fly past, jump past, or run past those initial mobs and to the back of the map, and someone'll take care of them.
Yes, last room grabs can be a problem if people rush the boss (moreso for Bank and Museum, less so for City Hall). I see something that really, really rarely though, because the mobs aggro the rusher anyways, who can most likely deal with them.
My guess is that they are using a memory editor like CheatEngine or OllyDBG to flip the elevator button's state from "unusable" to "usable"
Note: I'm sharing this because I reported this but nothing was done so I assume this is a legit action that players are allowed to do and no exploits or exploiters are being shown here.
I doubt it's anything that fancy. You're able to get the button to get inside by simply flying up against the elevator doors. Or teleporting up against them and exiting tp....right before you land it will show up.
As a courtesy, I would still recommend not doing that and just clearing the first room because it's very fast anyway. And clearing the last room of mobs. And also waiting a reasonable amount of time after the cutscene before engaging Warlord.
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1 starts combat, suddenly 4 people vanish.
anyway, I have sent an email about this to CS, several times since warlord started.
they said, it looks like a bug and to put in an ingame ticket about it, so they can get as much info as possible..
errr how, the ticket will only have the info you put in.
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or go and help the person, who has forgotten the boss or his guards have major Knockback and has now aggroed the mobs at back and both sides, by being knocked flying into them.
but yes, just yell "long pull" and get the boss over. the cops help.
If I don't have fly or jump, I just pull the 3 mobs back, so whoever is pulling has clear run out.
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They ain't that smart, it's just flight/teleport as vixy said.
Glad to see our awesome pvp community still exists.
I have 2 characters with Ascension but I NEVER use it to skip the players and Face Hi-Pan, I try my best to clean all the mobs so players can cross the Bridges
"What I'm doing is Wrong
I know it's Wrong
But I'm gonna do it anyway"
Lack of Empathy/Sympathy to the other players, andthey are willing to Sacrifice them to get in their Dirty hands the So Precious Depleted Uranium Core/Dragon Core(s), and some of them use Exploits to do so!
Or ignore all 4 members of the Pug to SOLO WARLORD, I didn't signed up in this alert to see you Solo a Boss :mad:
If those people aren't Egoistic Jerkfaces then I don't know what they are
Needless to say, I ignored more people during the 2 weeks I was farming Warlord and Hi-Pan than I have done the 4 Years I had been playing CO
Whoever Rushed Warlord or used Ascension to Hi-Pan was added to Ignore
Like the Fissures at the Map Edge of Vibora Bay Crisis which Auto-Kill you once you fell on them
Also I love when those people try to Solo Hi-Pan and then they Die (and sometimes rage quit)
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1. We clear the first room
2. As we all enter the elevator the ubertanks fly/teleport to the last room
3. others take out the enemies in the way normally
4. the uber epic tanks are still fighting the mobs in the end when we got there (AFTER FINISHING THE ENEMIES IN THE WAY)
WHAt in THE name of AAASS is THE POINT IN ALL THAT afsdfsdgfdh
but then again I remember few people who leave the alert when they see me because I vocalized my CONCERNS ABOUT THEIR TACTICS. XD
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Not sure exactly why you think I've never run an alert or why an alert has to generate an "it's your problem" attitude.
I've mentioned the new influx of players a few times and they are the people getting screwed. Ever watch a Grimiore at level 14 get stuck behind the first three on those smash alerts? I have. Wasn't fun for him I'm sure.
I was hoping the lifeblood of the game would go up recently, but the attitude reflected above is why 2 of the 3 people I got into the game (lured over from SW) have left already. Elapsed time 3 weeks. One of them called me and was stuck right after the elevator in Warlord and ended up having to leave...couldn't get by to get the reward because the other four rushed to the boss, won and then left.
I guess the "your problem" attitude wins..player base goes down...game dies. Well played.
Best I can think of is to make the doorways CLOSED and take time to open, taking damage interrupts the interaction after all. Make sure there's guards at every single one of them. Oh, and make the hostages be an objective too. You're playing a game as Heroes (theoretically), act like it. Make that last room locked until you save the last hostage who will then give you a keycard trigger to the room. Oh, and make a Warlord's Arsenal grab-bag type thing that has the costume bits inside it, make that a guaranteed reward and the prizes inside be random amounts of Questionite or any of the costume pieces or Depleted Uranium Core. The Resource reward at the end is not to be touched.
After all that's done, work on making the mobs less knock-happy. Seriously, it's like Shotgun, Frag Grenade, and Iron Cyclone are their only powers.
For fun, hide lore in the alert with details on the Shadow Army and Warlord.
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Pretty Strange isn't it? That's my #1 Complain with the alert
People pop Ascension and fly to Hi-Pan all like "LOLS Have fun with the Mobs on the way B!tches, I'm going to solo this"
It needs an Instand Death penalty for everyone flying before the Hi-Pan Battle, have the Mighty Dragon shoot them or something
/I would make a thread about it but I post on forums while playing the same time
and I've been in a PUG where 4 people flew over.
I gave a rude comment over zone and left.
also I think HInkydink was being sarcastic with this comment
Originally Posted by mrhinkypunk View Post
Meh players aren't jerks, they are perfectly in their right to play the game how it was made to be. Clearly because there have been no comments on the "exploits" from the devs then they are not seen as issues by them. Therefore it officially has become part of the game.
Legitimate stuff... Honest.
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Ya I hate that.
What's worse is when I use ascension in that alert, sometimes people knee-jerk start yelling at me... and I'm like "....I'm just flying over your head dpsing the same stuff as you...".
Stupid dumbs giving every ascension user a bad name u.u
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