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neverwinter1973
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Champions online has been out since 2009. Obviously this game has staying power. Couple of question on this topic for the people who have been around for such a long time.
Question one: Is Champions Online the same as City of heroes was ? I never got to play COH.
second question: Since 2009, has there been any graphic updates ? Reason for this question is, the Graphics on this game are pretty good for what CO is going for, which would be a comic book type atmosphere. If there have been no graphics updates since 2009, what engine are they using ?
Question one: Is Champions Online the same as City of heroes was ? I never got to play COH.
second question: Since 2009, has there been any graphic updates ? Reason for this question is, the Graphics on this game are pretty good for what CO is going for, which would be a comic book type atmosphere. If there have been no graphics updates since 2009, what engine are they using ?
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They are using the... Cryptic... Engine... <_< And yeah CO's one isn't the updated version which NW and STO use now, also a lot of level design was much more rushed than they probably wanted. It could look a lot better as for modern day graphics goes. But for 2009 it has stayed pretty well, as do all more cartoony styled games, (COUGH TF2 COUGH WOW COUGH) It's the reason a lot of MMO's choose to go much more cartoony than they would like, so the MMO stays viable for modern day graphics for a longer period. For example games such as GW2 and SWTOR did this.
A Playlist of my CO PvP video's (starting from post nerf PTS team duels)
Ah I see. Do you think they will release a graphics update to stay in competition with games like DCUO. I know they have had a graphics update after the release of the ps4 which in turn updated the graphics for pc.
CO does not need graphic updates.
It could use some reworks for NPC body proportions and faces (but these can be done only with few new head models and tweaking body sliders), and maybe better comic book outline effects, but the way how it is stylised? It will age much slower than DCUO.
DCUO graphical update did not really add that much for PC users.
Realistic games age very fast. Stylised games age very slow. WoW is the prime example. It lasted for long, long years with no graphical updates precisely because it has very stylised graphics.
Another example is the first Guild Wars game. It was never updated and still looks very good precisely because it is not a realistic looking game.
There are some things CO graphical engine could use, like optimalisation (because for some people it's an awful resource hog plagued by memory leaks), but the graphics doesn't really need to be improved or dramatically changed.
Cryptic seems to be following this route with all their titles. STO and NW also have stylised graphics, albeit not in the same style as CO.
They are running a rather low risk business model, keeping the game afloat probably until a new super hero MMO comes out that actually has modern graphics / same level of character creation / various ways to play the game like CO has unlike DCUO which forces one way to play. If this game doesn't come out in the next 5 years then I can see CO lasting out the 5 years and possibly only being shut down if it's current constant low yet efficient playerbase becomes inefficient and dips into too low numbers of people who aren't paying.
A Playlist of my CO PvP video's (starting from post nerf PTS team duels)
If you're presuming to speak for the entire population and generalize by saying that it's solely the character creator that retains players, then I can understand why you wouldn't care if he was trolling or not.
I completely agree with your DCUO statement. The reason I switched to Champions from DC is the lack of stuff to do when playing DCUO.
As far as the graphics of this game, I don't feel they are bad at all. Not only do the graphics give the game a comic book feel to it, the way the character, npc's and environment respond makes it seem as if things are truly alive in the game which is cool in my opinion.
As far as staying power goes, seeing that the game has been out since 2009, which I didn't know until recently, the game definitely has staying power. As long as the devs throw in new content from time to time, the game will last.
1. The Graphics are pretty good. I don't care about extreme detail because my PC can't handle it anyway. Besides, good graphics cant make up for bad gameplay.
2. The Character Customization is AWESOME. I doubt that other MMO's will be able to deliver as many character options as this game currently has, especially considering that a majority of those options are free and even if they cost zen, you can still save up enough questionite to buy them.
3. The Gameplay is great. This is the only MMO that I've played so far where you get to determine a large amount of your experience. Powersets give you a lot of ways to play the game, and freeform lets you do just about anything. Some power combinations are easy and some are hard. There are usually a variety of missions to choose from, so you don't have to do the exact same thing. Also, the community in this game is pretty good. Its mostly a cooperative game, so tensions are a lot lower and unlike most MMO's I've played, no one's constanty being a jerk.
EDIT: I should also throw in that is one of the few MMO's where you dont actually have to play with other people. I solo most of the time.
So that's my opinion. I do think that Cryptic should consider upgrading CO to the new engine. It would require a ton of work, but it would be worth it if they find enough areas to improve in. This game has a lot of potential.
So true. They're all wrong. We'll always have new content- sometimes it just takes a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG time to get it.
As much as people hate the rotating event concept, I feel like in the end it's pretty sound. When a new one pops up, vets come back to poke at it for a few weeks. It's a good way to make sure the outlying players keep coming back and checking up on things.
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Focusing on your character's personality can help you choose powers and missions you want to do to fit your hero or vigilante, thus helping to increase the enjoyment of the game for you. If that's the kind of game you want to play. But that's one of the good things about this game, you get to make your own enjoyment. You want to be a social RPer, there are places you can go to sit and talk with others, and RP through chat. You want to be an active RPer, while some missions are required, most can be played on a pick and choose basis. And nearly all missions can be done solo, or with friends, so you can choose the missions you feel best suit your character. You want to be a min/maxing powerhouse in PVP, you can choose the powers you want and go wreck faces in the Hero Games, or at Ren Center. You want to be filthy rich, farm rare items and be a powerful AH trader. Your enjoyment comes from what YOU put into the game.
The biggest, and seemingly most common, problem I've seen is the game can get boring over time. However, and I speak from experience here, taking a break from the game, and coming back later can refresh and renew your enjoyment of the game. I bought a Life time Subscription very early on, and I still feel like it was a wise decision. I have never regretted it.
While this game is VERY different from CoX, and I enjoyed CO more, CoX had a lot of wonderful things about it that will be missed. And while DCUO has some great aspects to it, I still feel CO is the superior Superhero MMO. Though, I have always said if you take all the best parts of CoX, CO, and DCUO and combine them, you would have an unstoppable MMO. We don't mention Marvel Heroes because, well, what's to mention. It's BARELY an MMO to be honest, and it's not overly entertaining.
A lighting update would be nice too, but that's about it.
Ooo I missed this one.
By grow into anything more I mean the game will never change from being the same VERY small MMO with a community of a few hundred on at a time. Content randomly being added to it is only to sustain the income money wise. The bussiness model is done currently so that it will never grow into anything more, if they tried to put more into it they probably think it will not turn a profit close to that of NW and most likely end up reducing their profit despite it being a riskier way to go.
It will never grow as in community or as an MMO. The stuff that gets added to it now and again is just to keep it sustained.
A Playlist of my CO PvP video's (starting from post nerf PTS team duels)