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Making the "Headless" head also "Eyeless"

senketsusenketsu Posts: 0 Arc User
edited October 2014 in Costumes and Concepts
I've noticed that the new Headless head under the standard head types include eyes that cannot be made invisible (unless of course they're viewed from behind as there is no inner texture to eyes):
  • Heads & Hairs
  • Full Mask

This also includes head types that involve Head Wear of any sort (apart from the newer Head Wear items which were universally applied to all head types i.e. head cage, paper bag, kabuki masks, etc.):
  • Hats & Helmets
  • Half Helmets
  • Face Masks & Armor
  • Hoods
  • Huge Humanoid Helmets
  • Collars & Short Hair
  • Luchador Masks

I am aware that there are head types in the game already that allow for a fully invisible head. The problem with these head types is that they do not allow for "Head Wear" apart from the newer Head Wear category items, as well as the retro sci-fi helmets listed under Huge Alien Helmets.

Before I turn this thread into a suggestion, does anybody know how, if it is at all possible, to make these eyes invisible along with the other facial features of the head while retaining any hats, helmets, or hoods?
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  • novaninja555novaninja555 Posts: 836 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    There is a new headless category? How?

    "Good can be found in heights, even in the deepest pits of evil" but "The valleys of evil always exist in the mountains of good."

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  • senketsusenketsu Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    There is a new headless category? How?
    It's included in the new "Cosmic Knight" costume set, which clearly shows no eyes visible from the front of the headless model.

    coheadlessmodels.jpg

    I'm assuming they just went ahead and used a head type that doesn't have any eye options, but this is severely limiting to what we could do with the new headless option if we're expected to follow that same process (i.e. No floating hats, mysteriously-empty helmets or hoods, etc.).
  • meedacthunistmeedacthunist Posts: 2,961 Arc User1
    edited October 2014
    Using categories like monstrous heads or huge opaque humanoid helmets gives you option with no eyes.

    This is how the head on Z-Store shot was made.

    Those two categories do not have eyeball models.

    Eyes actually are not linked to face or head accessories, but to the base head model. They will always show if you are using categories with humanoid heads.
  • senketsusenketsu Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Using categories like monstrous heads or huge opaque humanoid helmets gives you option with no eyes.

    This is how the head on Z-Store shot was made.

    Those two categories do not have eyeball models.

    Eyes actually are not linked to face or head accessories, but of base head model. They will always show if you are using categories with humanoid heads.

    That's what I was both aware and afraid of, which means we'll need an "invisible eye" option implemented. Thank you for the response.
  • jonsillsjonsills Posts: 6,318 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Select your invisible head option first.

    Then change your Head category to Full Helmets. Select "None" under "Head Wear".

    You'll have a headless look with no eyes.

    Alternatively, go ahead and choose the Cosmic head option under Partial Mask, then go around singing Billy Idol's "Eyes Without a Face".

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    Edit: I've found the way to do what you're after! (At least with a hood - still experimenting with this...)

    With the Cosmic Head (the invisible one), select Bestial Heads. You can put a hood on that, at least, and it will be empty. I'll report back later on hat options.
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  • senketsusenketsu Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    jonsills wrote: »
    Edit: I've found the way to do what you're after! (At least with a hood - still experimenting with this...)

    With the Cosmic Head (the invisible one), select Bestial Heads. You can put a hood on that, at least, and it will be empty. I'll report back later on hat options.

    Thanks a lot for your response! :) I appreciate you looking into this for me, specifically to get head wear into the mix. And yes, that "Nighthawk" hood was included in the newer, universal "head wear" options that were added within the past year or so. I'm particularly looking to wear items from the Hats & Helmets category over an invisible head, but it appears that is impossible to do for the time being without an eye graphic visible from the front of the player.
  • tfavsb10tfavsb10 Posts: 309 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    senketsu wrote: »
    I've noticed that the new Headless head under the standard head types include eyes that cannot be made invisible (unless of course they're viewed from behind as there is no inner texture to eyes):

    I actually like the concept of a Floating pair of evil eyes, i made and outfit using just headless and the eyes floating, it looked neat but havn't transfered it from my pts costume folder
  • novaninja555novaninja555 Posts: 836 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    senketsu wrote: »
    It's included in the new "Cosmic Knight" costume set, which clearly shows no eyes visible from the front of the headless model.

    coheadlessmodels.jpg

    I'm assuming they just went ahead and used a head type that doesn't have any eye options, but this is severely limiting to what we could do with the new headless option if we're expected to follow that same process (i.e. No floating hats, mysteriously-empty helmets or hoods, etc.).

    Damn that's just so SWAG! Is the aura also complementary or separately bought?

    "Good can be found in heights, even in the deepest pits of evil" but "The valleys of evil always exist in the mountains of good."

    ~me
  • leihngweileihngwei Posts: 164 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Damn that's just so SWAG! Is the aura also complementary or separately bought?

    It's part of the Cosmic Knight set. :smile:
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