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Well, bored again... another build idea brewing

nethernynetherny Posts: 54 Arc User
edited October 2014 in Builds and Roles
Well, it's that time of the evening when everybody and his dog is on the internet, straining my local ISP's servers...(and YES, there's a place where I can look it up and see a graph where they show you just how heavy it gets in the evenings.)

SO... since I can't even finish rescuing Mia Zin or whatever her name is without SNR'ing and coming back dead... might as well refine a build I've been thinking about. Got her to about 13 or 14 already and she is a blast so far.

http://powerhouse.nullware.com/powerhouse.html?v=11&n=Quake&d=1135dEWPciAM0703004G10BH503H303HD00F8031604GG04GE01KA031300HC01G801O6010tak3Uac3byZ

PowerHouse (Link to this build)

Name: Quake

Archetype: Freeform

Super Stats:
Level 6: Strength (Primary)
Level 10: Constitution (Secondary)
Level 15: Ego (Secondary)

Talents:
Level 1: The Mountain
Level 6: Relentless
Level 9: Wordly
Level 12: Quick Recovery
Level 15: Martial Training
Level 18: Field Ops Training
Level 21: Physical Conditioning

Powers:
Level 1: Force Bolts (Energy Refraction)
Level 1: Cleave (Rank 2, Rank 3, Accelerated Metabolism)
Level 6: Defiance (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 8: Tremor (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 11: Enrage
Level 14: Empathic Healing (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 17: Electric Shield (Electric Vengeance)
Level 20: Vicious Descent (Relentless)
Level 23: Brimstone (Rank 2)
Level 26: Lifedrain (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 29: Sparkstorm
Level 32: Seismic Smash (Rank 2)
Level 35: Annihilate (Rank 2)
Level 38: Sigils of Radiant Sanctuary (Rank 2)

Travel Powers:
Level 6: Jet Pack
Level 35: Teleportation

Specializations:
Strength: Swole (3/3)
Strength: Aggression (2/2)
Strength: Balance (2/2)
Strength: Juggernaut (3/3)
Guardian: Fortified Gear (3/3)
Guardian: Locus (2/2)
Guardian: Retribution (2/2)
Guardian: The Best Defense (3/3)
Vindicator: Aggressive Stance (2/2)
Vindicator: The Rush of Battle (3/3)
Vindicator: Modified Gear (2/2)
Vindicator: Mass Destruction (3/3)
Mastery: Strength Mastery (1/1)

My idea... sort of a Valkryie type of character who fights with a sword, and has some elemental type attacks (earth, some force and a little lightning). And I actually did not name her "Quake" by the way, so... you guys can have that one if you want it.

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j121/ShadowShape/Costume_jennabeezy_Skyster_CC_Comic_Page_Blue_466213691_zpsf8e31d6c.jpg

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j121/ShadowShape/screenshot_2014-10-09-19-33-08_zpsc3835e28.jpg

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j121/ShadowShape/screenshot_2014-10-09-19-33-05_zps0be00172.jpg


Started out as kind of a joke... just wanted a toon that could have Knock Back and/or AoE on just about everything. Mobs flying everywhere, and the utter chaos and destruction of those Earth based AoE's. Mwa haha!! AoE's and DoT's flying. And a big sword to finish them off.

Well, imagine my surprise when she turned out to be pretty darned fun to play? And the stupid screenies don't do her justice. I have the UNTIL emblem cape on her, and that Ironclad Sword (since it's not too huge like the other weapons.) and her top and bottoms (the blue parts) are actually like scaled armor, like Capt. America wears.

Weird mix I know... some ranged stuff and some melee stuff. Was thinking of trying to fit an Energy Unlock in there, but don't know if I'll really need one? I suppose Viscious Descent could go if I had to replace something. Guess I *could* replace Descent with MSA? Maybe? I'm still pretty new to this game, so please don't laugh too hard at my bumbling around lol.

Like I said, so far I'm pretty happy with this toon...she's pretty darn tough... stuff exploding, destruction galore, mobs flying around in the explosions.

Also, I'm a bit confused about Enrage and Aggressor... are these two able to be used at the same time? I'm thinking not, since they're both Forms, but I could be wrong as I have seen some posted builds that have both in them.

One reason I said to Heck with it and went with a STR based toon is because everything I've tried so far is ranged / summoner / stealthy types, and I'm tired of getting knocked around like a rag doll all the time. Just think of a female version of Thor (like Valkyrie of the Defenders), but even more awesome and destructive. So far, even running her in Tank mode, I can go into a mission and basically just erupt all over the place and afterwards, I'm like "Hey, wait a minute... did I already do that mission?" Don't even remember quaking Foxbat or Ludwig or whoever lol.

Anyway, I am very grateful for any advice from you guys... guess I'll see if I can get back on without the stupid SNR's for a while (grrrr). Thanks for your time and have fun out there! :D
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  • flowcytoflowcyto Posts: 12,859 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Veering off a bit from just giving my usual advise of reworking a build, instead I'm gonna take this 'for fun' build and propose another concept based off it.. which is also just for fun :p

    Behold:

    PowerHouse (Link to this build)

    Name: Asgard called up Micheal Bay

    Archetype: Freeform

    Super Stats:
    Level 6: Strength (Primary)
    Level 10: Constitution (Secondary)
    Level 15: Intelligence (Secondary)

    Talents:
    Level 1: The Devastator
    Level 6: Covert Ops Training
    Level 9: Physical Conditioning
    Level 12: Healthy Mind
    Level 15: Body and Mind
    Level 18: Quick Recovery
    Level 21: Relentless

    Powers:
    Level 1: Wield Earth
    Level 1: Tremor (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 6: Defiance
    Level 8: Enrage
    Level 11: Eruption (Rank 2, Magma Burst)
    Level 14: Molecular Self-Assembly
    Level 17: Conviction (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 20: Vicious Descent (Rank 2, Relentless)
    Level 23: Explosive Arrow (Where's the Kaboom?)
    Level 26: Annihilate (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 29: Unbreakable (Rank 2, Better You Than Me)
    Level 32: Brimstone (Rank 2, Aftershock)
    Level 35: Ego Surge (Nimble Mind)
    Level 38:

    Travel Powers:
    Level 6:
    Level 35:

    Specializations:
    Strength: Swole (3/3)
    Strength: Physical Peak (2/3)
    Strength: Brutality (2/2)
    Strength: Juggernaut (2/3)
    Strength: Overpower (1/3)
    Guardian: Fortified Gear (3/3)
    Guardian: Locus (2/2)
    Guardian: Ruthless (2/2)
    Guardian: The Best Defense (3/3)
    Vindicator: Aggressive Stance (2/2)
    Vindicator: Merciless (3/3)
    Vindicator: Focused Strikes (2/3)
    Vindicator: Mass Destruction (3/3)
    Mastery: Strength Mastery (1/1)

    Basic idea: Fire off a quick tap of Explosive Arrow, lunge in w/ Decimate or Descent (or similar lunge), and unleash an Annihilate. If timed right, ur target will be sent flying and explode in mid-air (or when they land, whichev). Make sure you do the last important step, though: Turn and strut away.

    (note- can replace Annihilate w/ Roomsweeper, or Haymaker, or Uppercut, or FC, or w/e knock power- timing is a bit diff w/ each and is not set in stone)

    Not a full rework/review of the build, but hey, maybe it helped somehow anyways :p
    <CO stuff> .: Petco :. // A basic FF building guide (see 1st reply) // PSA on Power Activation Delay // Ayonachan's Gift Horse (misc stat data)
    - Be safe and have fun, champs - for science!
  • nethernynetherny Posts: 54 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Some interesting choices there, Flowcyto! :)

    I wouldn't have expected INT to be put in there. Maybe DEX but not INT. (My reasoning there is because some of the attacks say Melee and some say Ranged)

    Also now I know that MSA will help. I had no idea whether to add an energy unlock or not lol.

    I also noticed you didn't rank Defiance or Enraged? Not that I'm complaining... if there's a way to save those points and put them elsewhere, then I'm all ears :eek:

    EDIT: Finally figured out how to change avatars. That's the original Skyster back on CoX. Took that pic just off the docks in St. Martial. Ahhh, memories. By the way... this new Valkyrie toon? That's right, named her Skyster. Woah.

    EDIT 2: Oh Yeah, and the Force Bolts as my Energy Builder with Refraction... I find it to be a very good choice... every once in a while it surrounds me with a force field that basically protects my Health Points for a little bit. Sort of like when those Squad Leader guys activate a Force Shield that you have to beat through to get to their actual hit points. If you're going to be using a energy builder anyway, might as well get a free force field out of the deal, even if it doesn't last too terribly long.
  • flowcytoflowcyto Posts: 12,859 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    netherny wrote: »
    Some interesting choices there, Flowcyto! :)

    I wouldn't have expected INT to be put in there. Maybe DEX but not INT. (My reasoning there is because some of the attacks say Melee and some say Ranged)
    While its true that Melee scales w/ Str and Ranged w/ Ego, that's only referring to the 'additive' passive dmg bonus (in white text on their mouse-over), and that damage soft-caps at a stat of 70 (or ~20%) and is subject to very heavy diminishing returns (DR). 25% passive (not base_multiplicative) dmg for a geared lvl 40 FF is more like 3-5% final dmg.

    SS's all give the same passive bonus, as does the toggle, passive, specs, etc- but its generalized and also on the DR curve.

    Int will help scale up MSA energy, and also lowers CD timers and energy costs a bit. Like Con, its one of those stats that can fit into practically any build as an SS, even if its not always ideal.
    Also now I know that MSA will help. I had no idea whether to add an energy unlock or not lol.
    Its a good idea usually. MSA can work well even w/ a base 10 Int, cause it still ticks 3x per proc. Even the base amount is enough to pay back a costly heal like Conviction every ~6 sec.
    I also noticed you didn't rank Defiance or Enraged? Not that I'm complaining... if there's a way to save those points and put them elsewhere, then I'm all ears :eek:
    Yeah, Defiance is the only slotted passive where its usually best not to rank it up. Toggles/forms like Enrage also typically aren't ranked (though there are more exceptions here).
    EDIT 2: Oh Yeah, and the Force Bolts as my Energy Builder with Refraction... I find it to be a very good choice... every once in a while it surrounds me with a force field that basically protects my Health Points for a little bit. Sort of like when those Squad Leader guys activate a Force Shield that you have to beat through to get to their actual hit points. If you're going to be using a energy builder anyway, might as well get a free force field out of the deal, even if it doesn't last too terribly long.
    Yeah its a fine energy builder adv; usually ya don't rank up end builders at all, but there are a few exceptions. I wouldn't really bother w/ Energy Refraction in particular unless ya were using Force Cascade, though, since otherwise the goal at lvl 40 is to minimize (or completely eliminate) energy building entirely.
    <CO stuff> .: Petco :. // A basic FF building guide (see 1st reply) // PSA on Power Activation Delay // Ayonachan's Gift Horse (misc stat data)
    - Be safe and have fun, champs - for science!
  • nethernynetherny Posts: 54 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Thanks for all the great help Flowcyto!

    Now I'm off to give it a try and see if I can smack Hi Pan all up in the face with a sword (or I might switch to a hammer) so that he can't say...

    Hi-Pan: "AT RAST!! My Red Banner army is victorious! Now all Westside will have to eat at my chity wok!!"


    Kevin Poe: "Wait... you mean to tell me... this was all so you could take over the Chinese Food chains in town? Y'know what? I'm outtie.. peace."

    Skyster (that's me, standing behind all the bad guys) "Actually, I could go for some Chinese food right about now. Got any Mu Shu pork? egg rolls? Pork Fried Rice*"

    Hi Pan: "YES!! Mwa haha!! You see, my minions! Not even the most powerful of heroes can resist my Afternoon Chinese Buffet!!"


    (Okay, I'll stop.)
  • flowcytoflowcyto Posts: 12,859 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    No prob, and if ya mean the Westside Culmination mission, just be careful w/ not aggroing all the mobs at once :x W/ some pause between pulls ya can let some out-of-range/combat healing kick in.
    <CO stuff> .: Petco :. // A basic FF building guide (see 1st reply) // PSA on Power Activation Delay // Ayonachan's Gift Horse (misc stat data)
    - Be safe and have fun, champs - for science!
  • nethernynetherny Posts: 54 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Yeah I stopped off at that dude in Ren Cen and picked up some of those healy things he's got. Too bad he doesn't sell any Hostess Twinkies Cakes.... I could simply toss a handful of those in there, and ALL the baddies would give up... tender flakey crust, real fruit filling!

    http://www.toplessrobot.com/v2thor02.jpg

    Seriously, where are our snack cake crime deterrents?? <_<'
  • nethernynetherny Posts: 54 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Okay, Okay... how's this look?

    PowerHouse (Link to this build)

    Name: Skyster

    Archetype: Freeform

    Super Stats:
    Level 6: Strength (Primary)
    Level 10: Constitution (Secondary)
    Level 15: Intelligence (Secondary)

    Talents:
    Level 1: The Savage
    Level 6: Relentless
    Level 9: Quick Recovery
    Level 12: Negotiator
    Level 15: Amazing Stamina
    Level 18: Wordly
    Level 21: Covert Ops Training

    Powers:
    Level 1: Force Bolts (Energy Refraction)
    Level 1: Cleave (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 6: Defiance
    Level 8: Tremor (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 11: Enrage
    Level 14: Empathic Healing
    Level 17: Thunderstrike (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 20: Molecular Self-Assembly
    Level 23: Vicious Descent (Rank 2, Relentless)
    Level 26: Fault Line
    Level 29: Electric Shield (Electric Vengeance)
    Level 32: Soul Mesmerism (Glossolalia)
    Level 35: Brimstone (Rank 2, Aftershock)
    Level 38: Stormbringer (Rank 2, Rank 3)

    Travel Powers:
    Level 6: Jet Pack (Rank 2)
    Level 35: Teleportation

    Specializations:
    Strength: Swole (3/3)
    Strength: Aggression (2/2)
    Strength: Balance (2/2)
    Strength: Juggernaut (3/3)
    Warden: Fortified Gear (3/3)
    Warden: Elusive (2/2)
    Warden: Reactive Strikes (2/2)
    Warden: The Best Defense (3/3)
    Vindicator: Aggressive Stance (2/2)
    Vindicator: The Rush of Battle (3/3)
    Vindicator: Modified Gear (2/2)
    Vindicator: Mass Destruction (3/3)
    Mastery: Vindicator Mastery (1/1)


    I figure Soul Mesmerism is *sort of* like throwing them all Hostess Twinkies Cakes... should keep them busy for a while lol !

    And if that doesn't stop their evil ways... it's Thunderstrike / Earthquake and Hammer time.

    If only Empathic Healing were faster. I've tried Conviction, and it's just too small of a heal.

    And yes, I stuck Thunderstrike at 17... trying to get a 100 ft range attack as early as I can... most of this toon is 50 ft or closer.
  • flowcytoflowcyto Posts: 12,859 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Ya can't have >1 slotted passive up at once, so Stormbringer won't work unless ur using 2 diff build setups.

    I'd prob still keep Conviction- it seems small at low levels, but it gets better as you level. Can also get Resurgence if ya want a big instant heal in there. R1 Empathic is pretty weak and takes committed channeling, plus the heal has to ramp up a bit.

    No real need to have Fault Line in there w/ Tremor around- latter is the stronger knock AoE. Would also get 2/2 Brutality, 2/3 Juggernaut, and 1/2 Balance in Str PSS if ya wanted the knock scaling- skipping Brutality is skipping a good chunk of damage. Would also take Ruthless over Reactive Strikes in Warden and Merciless over Rush of Battle and/or Modified Gear in Vindicator- severity options typically are good picks. Something like:

    Specializations:
    Strength: Swole (3/3)
    Strength: Physical Peak (2/3)
    Strength: Balance (1/2)
    Strength: Brutality (2/2)
    Strength: Juggernaut (2/3)
    Warden: Fortified Gear (3/3)
    Warden: Slaughter (2/3)
    Warden: Ruthless (2/2)
    Warden: The Best Defense (3/3)
    Vindicator: Aggressive Stance (2/2)
    Vindicator: Merciless (3/3)
    Vindicator: The Rush of Battle (2/3)
    Vindicator: Mass Destruction (3/3)
    Mastery: Strength Mastery (1/1)

    Shouldn't really need a 100ft attack, imo. I mean, the build has a lunge and enough ranged moves as is, and ya dun have any knockbacks to need to hit anything >50ft out. A fast combat travel power can easily help ya close gaps along w/ the lunge- something like Acrobatics or Athletics or the Superspeed variants.
    <CO stuff> .: Petco :. // A basic FF building guide (see 1st reply) // PSA on Power Activation Delay // Ayonachan's Gift Horse (misc stat data)
    - Be safe and have fun, champs - for science!
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