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Which Norse?

novaninja555novaninja555 Posts: 836 Arc User
edited September 2014 in Fan Base Alpha
So basically, my disciple is going to be Norse - themed. So my question is:

Are there any Asgardian quick combatants?

Other than Loki, every Asgardian I have seen has some good standing toughness and are relatively slow with their moves in comparison to assassins. Even Siff relies on agility more than swiftness of the blade and even she is pretty "tanky" .

If there aren't really any Asgardian quick combatants, from which realm do they come from.
Please avoid: Dark Elves and Humans
"Good can be found in heights, even in the deepest pits of evil" but "The valleys of evil always exist in the mountains of good."

~me
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  • jonsillsjonsills Posts: 6,318 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Seen where? To the best of my knowledge, the eddas don't describe the speed of the gods, merely their (enormous) strength. (And the antics they got up to, some of which would be enough to make Zeus shake his head.)

    If you're relying on the comics, don't. That way madness lies, as well as potential trademark infringement.

    Really, almost any of the warrior-gods could be used, with the possible exception of Thor (in the eddas he was strong, but not quick mentally) or Odin (who was really more associated with wisdom than fighting). Sif seems totally plausible, or maybe one of the Valkyrie. If you're dedicated to defense, you could always claim to be a disciple of Baldur, guardian of the Bifrost Bridge and destined to be the sole remaining god after Ragnarok and the guardian of humans in that future. Tyr's good too, especially if you use one-handed attacks (Tyr put his hand into the mouth of the Fenris Wolf as the other gods chained it down; the wolf then bit his hand off in retaliation.)
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  • solardynamosolardynamo Posts: 139 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Fandral is a swordsman and Balder was known for being smaller (faster) hence his protection from being killed.

    How about lesser known Zoran, son of Odin and God of Speed.
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  • novaninja555novaninja555 Posts: 836 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    I think I will make my character a disciple a Siff then. Her weapon is my favorite weapon anyways, double edge swords FTW!

    But are you sure Thor is not mentally strong? I mean I haven't seen the eddas myself but in the movies (yeah I know; they are different) he shows some good strategy especially in "Dark World".
    I think I will make my character the son of Emma Frost and Thor ; and Siff's disciple. I am gonna relate it with the movies than the comic's cuz I think that Thor should be a guy at least to stay in line at least a little with the actual Thor even if its only by a differential quantity.

    But in case of the other 6 realms (excluding Midgard and realm of the dark elves), were there any such swift combatants?
    "Good can be found in heights, even in the deepest pits of evil" but "The valleys of evil always exist in the mountains of good."

    ~me
  • novaninja555novaninja555 Posts: 836 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    solardynamo wrote: »
    Fandral is a swordsman and Balder was known for being smaller (faster) hence his protection from being killed.

    How about lesser known Zoran, son of Odin and God of Speed.

    I think Balder can work... I am not picking Zoran because my character isn't too reliant at speed though. He uses some advanced strategies as well... Like Siff.
    "Good can be found in heights, even in the deepest pits of evil" but "The valleys of evil always exist in the mountains of good."

    ~me
  • bulgarexbulgarex Posts: 2,310 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    The comic books and movies take enormous liberties with the Norse mythological sources. They are their own thing, reinterpreting the original characters for stories appealing to modern audiences. In the official Champions Universe the mythic gods have actual existence, and closely resemble how they're depicted in the classic legends.

    Given that, I would recommend using Hermod, one of Odin's sons by Frigg, and the messenger of the gods. Some sources refer to him as "Hermod the Swift" or "Hermod the Nimble," so his fighting style is more likely to resemble what you want.
  • bulgarexbulgarex Posts: 2,310 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    novaninja555 wrote: »
    I think Balder can work... I am not picking Zoran because my character isn't too reliant at speed though. He uses some advanced strategies as well... Like Siff.
    solardynamo wrote: »
    Fandral is a swordsman and Balder was known for being smaller (faster) hence his protection from being killed.

    How about lesser known Zoran, son of Odin and God of Speed.

    I've seen that name on the Internet, but frankly, none of the primary sources on Norse mythology I've seen have ever mentioned him. I've also never seen the consonant "z" used in any name derived from Old Norse. I suspect Zoran is someone's modern invention that spread around until he has come to be thought of as part of the Norse pantheon.

    In any case, the name may be too close to another official Champions character, the Lemurian sorcerer Zorran the Artificer.
  • jonsillsjonsills Posts: 6,318 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    I managed to find one reference to a Zoran on the net; he was said in this material to be the son of Odin and Hel, which seems on the whole rather unlikely. Lending further doubt to this tale is the supposed fate of Zoran, cast into a deep well as punishment for falling in love with a Japanese shinto spirit. All of his followers, according to this account, were slain by the Inquisition in the late 1100s.

    So, yeah. No plausible accounts of anyone named Zoran; the Z sound doesn't seem to occur in the runic alphabet, as the only times I've found the phoneme associated with Norse gods is in Old Germanic references; and the ancient Norse had no idea Japan existed. Further, according to the reference, the kami involved was named SV.

    Sorry, but the whole thing sounds like a modern invention, probably for someone's game.
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