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Elusive Monk/Flippin' numbers?

justicezer0justicezer0 Posts: 68 Arc User
edited September 2014 in Power Discussion
Title is pretty self explanatory; I can't seem to find any numbers for those two that look recent enough not to have been mucked with by more recent changes. How much effect should I really expect to see on an LR/Evasive Maneuvers tank who doesn't use Unarmed?
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  • flowcytoflowcyto Posts: 12,859 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Think the dodge from Flipping was a flat ~4%, at least last I checked.

    EM scales w/ Dex. Some quick sampling:

    @ 5 Dex (base) = 4% dodge, 1.6 avoid rating (0.7% at base), 33% knock resist
    @ 117 Dex = 4.9% dodge, 38 avoid rating (14.2% at base), 33% knock resist
    @ 276 Dex = 6.2% dodge, 91 avoid rating (27% at base), 33% knock resist

    The dodge and knock resist are flat bonuses (DR-free), while the avoidance is subject to diminishing returns (ex. 91 avoid rating goes from 27% added at base (20% avoid) to ~9% added w/ 60% total avoidance from WotW + gear).
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  • justicezer0justicezer0 Posts: 68 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    And iirc, the Avoidance in Flippin' is about however much avoidance rating it takes to go from nothing to 21%? I'm glad to hear it's straight dex; One source was saying EM was DCR, which made me doubt I wanted to take the dps hit for it. thank you. =)
  • toooldforthistoooldforthis Posts: 117 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    flowcyto wrote: »
    Think the dodge from Flipping was a flat ~4%, at least last I checked.

    Was closer to around 1%ish last time I fooled around with it. Enough to not have to use a rank 8 or 9 mod, but not enough to do much else.
    justicezer0 wrote:
    I can't seem to find any numbers for those two that look recent enough not to have been mucked with by more recent changes

    Try digging through some of the PTS threads around the time of the dodge nerf as there was a whole bunch of testing. Someone should probably have put up a more permanent thread with it, but there was an immense amount of anger at CN so no real surprise that no one felt like contributing to their forums.
  • flowcytoflowcyto Posts: 12,859 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    toooldforthis wrote: »
    Was closer to around 1%ish last time I fooled around with it. Enough to not have to use a rank 8 or 9 mod, but not enough to do much else.
    Yeah after checking on some lowbies, it seems to be subject to DR. The base listed is 4%, but it gets lowered w/ more base dodge added. The 21% listed avoidance is also subject to avoidance's heavy DR, but that's what I expected from trying other %advs like the one on Dragon Kick's.

    They may have updated it w/ the dodge changes, but I'm not certain.
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  • monsterdaddymonsterdaddy Posts: 795 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Flippin is a ridiculous unintelligible mess. They should have made it a flat 2% and added a flat Avoidance rating.

    Elusive Monk is base 4% plus 0.008% per point of Dexterity. Easy formula.
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