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shadowruin8shadowruin8 Posts: 35 Arc User
So, like all people I for one am excited to finally see new content after a long time. But this question still haunts me. How long before people burn through and want more content after this is released. Granted we don't know how big this new content is, but my question still stands.
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  • crypticbuxomcrypticbuxom Posts: 4,635 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    If it is longer than an AP with plenty of opportunities during it to get loot and drops, I think it would last a while. If it is successful we might get updates like this more often. That all depends on Cryptic North not messing it up and doing things too fast like what they did with Whiteout compared to Aftershock.

    I certainly hope to not get bored until at least 4 months in. Given that, ideally we shouldn't have to wait 3 months beyond that point to wait for the next similar update. Waiting more than a year for an update should no longer be (and really never was) acceptable if the updates aren't game changing.

    What we seem to be getting is acceptable if we get stuff like that every 7 months tops.
  • newplayerguy7newplayerguy7 Posts: 61 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Like any other MMO...

    4-5 hours of content will be blown through in 45 minutes by a bunch of zergers - - who will then come to the forums and complain there isn't enough content...

    Heck, even a game will 1000s of hours of content available and more added each day, still gets complaints the content isn't the RIGHT kind of content, so there's nothing to do....:rolleyes:

    It's the just nature of gamers who play MMOs.
  • shadowruin8shadowruin8 Posts: 35 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Personally, I hope players don't get so excited with the new content that they go through it so fast that they don't want to do it over again, especially with it being Mechanon who will be interesting to see what he looks like. I just think it would suck to see people complain about it without truly giving it a change. But maybe with this update, bug fixes will come with it. So it may be an overall good thing that MIGHT please players.
  • championshewolfchampionshewolf Posts: 4,376 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    if they follow the artwork in the book (which I think is mostly cryptic's artwork for 6ed) he might look something like this;

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  • lestylolestylo Posts: 379 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    "I tried to look at that page but saw only inane comments."
  • rianfrostrianfrost Posts: 578 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    a gentleman never tells..oh you meant the content, yeah people burn through content fast, they did in coh , did in eq and do in wow, thats not what makes this update important, after over a year this is actual perm content that moves the story forward and utilizes heavy hitters in the story. if this were to be what we see in the future, i will feel a lot better, not a bunch of alerts that are just 2 minute dogpiles on one guy absent of any context. its good news not just for itself but for what it indicates after far too long of senseless and interchangeable alerts, all too brief "events" and omnipresent lock-boxes.
  • kemmicalskemmicals Posts: 863 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Your answer.












    ... All kidding aside, I wouldn't expect it to be as long as an AP.
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  • spinnytopspinnytop Posts: 16,467 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    For me, the question isn't how long...


    The real question is "how fun". I'm hoping they got really creative with combat mechanics in this. If they did, I'm going to get a ****-ton of mileage out of this. If it's the same old combat mechanics the I'll be making a pouty boo boo face while I play it u3u
  • xydaxydaxydaxyda Posts: 800 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    How long can people put a negative spin on a new announcement?

    Instantly, as it turns out.
  • decorumfriendsdecorumfriends Posts: 2,811 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    **gigantic LIKE button hit for xydaxyda**
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  • flyingfinnflyingfinn Posts: 8,408 Arc User
    edited August 2014
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  • spinnytopspinnytop Posts: 16,467 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    xydaxyda wrote: »
    How long can people put a negative spin on a new announcement?

    Instantly, as it turns out.

    I this context I don't think Instant is a measure of duration u3u Unless you're claiming that the duration of how long people were putting a negative spin on this ended the instant it began >.>
  • roughbearmattachroughbearmattach Posts: 4,785 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    spinnytop wrote: »
    For me, the question isn't how long...


    The real question is "how fun". I'm hoping they got really creative with combat mechanics in this. If they did, I'm going to get a ****-ton of mileage out of this. If it's the same old combat mechanics the I'll be making a pouty boo boo face while I play it u3u


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  • crypticbuxomcrypticbuxom Posts: 4,635 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    if they follow the artwork in the book (which I think is mostly cryptic's artwork for 6ed) he might look something like this;

    Mechanon's_Master_Plan.gif

    Mechanon in the game looks appropriately true to the art and bad ****. It won't disappoint.
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  • spinnytopspinnytop Posts: 16,467 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    I concur. Seriously, Internet Generation...

    To be fair, that behavior didn't start with the internet. I'm sure when Ug-Bug invented fire, Gub-Goo immediately said "Oh great, you made something that burned my hand, incompetent moron", and then Bung-Gum said "Nobody cares about cooking food, get back to sharpening rocks" and Gurl-Gug said "It's not even that warm, and look at all the work I have to do to keep it burning".

    The internet just helped to make common knowledge the sheer volume of people exhibiting that behavior. Saying the internet caused it is like saying guns created murder u3u
  • iamruneiamrune Posts: 969 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    spinnytop wrote: »
    To be fair, that behavior didn't start with the internet. I'm sure when Ug-Bug invented fire, Gub-Goo immediately said "Oh great, you made something that burned my hand, incompetent moron", and then Bung-Gum said "Nobody cares about cooking food, get back to sharpening rocks" and Gurl-Gug said "It's not even that warm, and look at all the work I have to do to keep it burning".

    The internet just helped to make common knowledge the sheer volume of people exhibiting that behavior. Saying the internet caused it is like saying guns created murder u3u

    Guns may not have created murder, but they "brought it too the masses" what with no longer having to learn a skill or dirty your own hands, or even put yourself at very much risk anymore. Hell, with a pistol any fool with a quick mad-on can get a murder in quick fast in a hurry, and toss the gun and possibly get away with it.

    The Internet is like that, with it's anonymity and long distance communication built in. Anyone can complain, and now they can do it instantaneously, without leaving the comfort of their own home, or even revealing their real name or face, or putting their own precious reputations on the line, just smear others reputations and efforts safely from behind that wall of anonymity.

    Back when Ug-bug invented fire, and the others gave him lip about it, he could [and probably did] beat a couple of them senseless for being morons. Then he smacked Gurl-gug over the head and made her do all the cooking and cleaning.

    If Ug-gurl and the others had the internet to hide behind, we'd have probably had no further innovations after Fire, since everyone complained and it was thought nobody wanted Fire or anything to do with it.
  • spinnytopspinnytop Posts: 16,467 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    iamrune wrote: »
    Guns may not have created murder, but they "brought it too the masses" what with no longer having to learn a skill or dirty your own hands, or even put yourself at very much risk anymore. Hell, with a pistol any fool with a quick mad-on can get a murder in quick fast in a hurry, and toss the gun and possibly get away with it.

    The Internet is like that, with it's anonymity and long distance communication built in. Anyone can complain, and now they can do it instantaneously, without leaving the comfort of their own home, or even revealing their real name or face, or putting their own precious reputations on the line, just smear others reputations and efforts safely from behind that wall of anonymity.

    Back when Ug-bug invented fire, and the others gave him lip about it, he could [and probably did] beat a couple of them senseless for being morons. Then he smacked Gurl-gug over the head and made her do all the cooking and cleaning.

    If Ug-gurl and the others had the internet to hide behind, we'd have probably had no further innovations after Fire, since everyone complained and it was thought nobody wanted Fire or anything to do with it.

    Yes, just like the gun allowed people to commit murder over greater distances, so did the internet allow people to complain over greater distances. However, it didn't get them started doing it, you just didn't notice before... that guy has been trying to kill you all along, it's just that you never noticed because he was trying to chuck knives at you from across a field. That other guy was also complaining about everything and being negative all along as well, you just didn't notice because he didn't have a pipeline from his mouth directly to your face.

    Anonymity and distance-based-protection didn't create bad attitudes, it just made people more willing to show them off.

    Whether internet would have prevented the continuing innovations of fire's existence would have been determined by Ug-Bug's concern for the opinions of others. Some people make stuff just because they want to, not because they think others want them to... the internet hasn't eradicated those kinds of people (and one might argue that it has actually helped to create even more of them).
  • iamruneiamrune Posts: 969 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    spinnytop wrote: »
    Anonymity and distance-based-protection didn't create bad attitudes, it just made people more willing to show them off.

    Our point, and I think even you may agree [I hope], is that most of us here in the Champions Community are a little sick and tired of the instantaneous complaining of new announcements, not even a day old.

    It's too soon.

    I imagine the PTS will be updated with a preview in the next day or two. At least give them the time to get the content pushed to PTS or Live before starting in.
  • spinnytopspinnytop Posts: 16,467 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    iamrune wrote: »
    Our point, and I think even you may agree [I hope], is that most of us here in the Champions Community are a little sick and tired of the instantaneous complaining of new announcements, not even a day old.

    It's too soon.

    I imagine the PTS will be updated with a preview in the next day or two. At least give them the time to get the content pushed to PTS or Live before starting in.

    It's never too soon to stop enjoying something you've never done! ( o 3 o)/
  • chalupaoffurychalupaoffury Posts: 2,559 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    I have 2 predictions.

    1: I'm gonna burn through this in less than 45 minutes the first time through.

    2: I'm going to play it to DEATH. Same thing happened with cybermind, I must have ran it 400 times when the event was live.
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  • coneuroniaconeuronia Posts: 63 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    spinnytop wrote: »
    It's never too soon to stop enjoying something you've never done! ( o 3 o)/

    Gotta say I laughed out loud, love the sacrasm avec smilie-kirby-3-as-a-nose-thing.
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  • necratech009necratech009 Posts: 68 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    I am totally looking forward to the new stuff. That being said, this rant about how bad guns are is ridiculous. Guns have made it so that the weak can defend themselves against big bullies. Rants against guns totally leave out the millions of people it saved throughout history and to this day.
  • itsbrou#5396 itsbrou Posts: 1,781 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    This is not MMOC general any topic.
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  • tditstdits Posts: 561 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Mechanon in the game looks appropriately true to the art and bad ****. It won't disappoint.

    Ooh, has Cryptic been doing secret, private, invite only testing? Sweet. It might actually work right when it hits PTS! :D
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  • iamruneiamrune Posts: 969 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    I am totally looking forward to the new stuff. That being said, this rant about how bad guns are is ridiculous. Guns have made it so that the weak can defend themselves against big bullies. Rants against guns totally leave out the millions of people it saved throughout history and to this day.

    I was only using it as an analogy.

    I live in Texas and am a proud Gun Supporter myself, but the simple truth is, guns have made murder and other violent crimes involving threats with violence, easier for anyone to do, even as it's made it safer and easier for police to defend us from those same creeps.

    It is not an even match value though.. there are a lot more freaks and creeps out there than there are people willing to defend people they don't know, comics reality we love notwithstanding. It's this disconnection with reality that we all probably love about action adventure settings anyhow.. it's a romantic notion.

    But really.. Let's at least see the stuff on PTS before burning the forums down, amirite? :biggrin:
  • chalupaoffurychalupaoffury Posts: 2,559 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Not to derail things too much, but I'm moving tonight. Back into my old house by the mountains. Roommate just got a 37mm grenade/cannister launcher that we're gonna fire off. So... That's fun. Apparently in Montana a private citizen can own a grenade launcher.
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  • chaelkchaelk Posts: 7,746 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    as long as you two are both careful about where you fire it and at what.

    people who don't take care may end up here
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  • spinnytopspinnytop Posts: 16,467 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    I've been holding on to this for a bit.



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  • bluedarkybluedarky Posts: 1,232 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    spinnytop wrote: »
    To be fair, that behavior didn't start with the internet. I'm sure when Ug-Bug invented fire, Gub-Goo immediately said "Oh great, you made something that burned my hand, incompetent moron", and then Bung-Gum said "Nobody cares about cooking food, get back to sharpening rocks" and Gurl-Gug said "It's not even that warm, and look at all the work I have to do to keep it burning".

    The internet just helped to make common knowledge the sheer volume of people exhibiting that behavior. Saying the internet caused it is like saying guns created murder u3u

    Don't get ahead of yourself, the behaviour started when Ugg picked up a heavy stone and used it to beat another animal to death then dropped it on Ogg's foot who immediately complained that Ugg should have stuck to beating it to death with his own hands.
  • williamkonywilliamkony Posts: 582 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    iamrune wrote: »
    I was only using it as an analogy.

    I live in Texas and am a proud Gun Supporter myself, but the simple truth is, guns have made murder and other violent crimes involving threats with violence, easier for anyone to do, even as it's made it safer and easier for police to defend us from those same creeps.

    It is not an even match value though.. there are a lot more freaks and creeps out there than there are people willing to defend people they don't know, comics reality we love notwithstanding. It's this disconnection with reality that we all probably love about action adventure settings anyhow.. it's a romantic notion.

    But really.. Let's at least see the stuff on PTS before burning the forums down, amirite? :biggrin:

    That wouldn't be the case if legally acquiring a gun weren't so intentionally headache-inducing. Unless you count cities where gang violence is knowingly cultivated for the sake of creating fear and dependency.

    Self-defense and crime prevention are quite common, nearly guaranteed, when the victims actually HAVE the guns to utilize.

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  • spinnytopspinnytop Posts: 16,467 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    bluedarky wrote: »
    Don't get ahead of yourself, the behaviour started when Ugg picked up a heavy stone and used it to beat another animal to death then dropped it on Ogg's foot who immediately complained that Ugg should have stuck to beating it to death with his own hands.

    Well I'm sure someday science will find out that single-celled life complained more than anyone... but we'll just have to wait for that won't we o3o
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