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Does it matter how long I charge Mental Storm for Trapped, Vulnerability, and Wither?

jairevansjairevans Posts: 55 Arc User
edited August 2014 in Power Discussion
Does how long I charge Mental Storm affect how long Trapped, Vulnerability, Wither, and Sentinel Mastery are applied to my target?

I was thinking of doing something like this:

PowerHouse (Link to this build)

Name:

Archetype: Freeform

Super Stats:
Level 6: Presence (Primary)
Level 10: Ego (Secondary)
Level 15: Intelligence (Secondary)

Talents:
Level 1: The Grimoire
Level 6: Academics
Level 9: Diplomatic
Level 12: Showmanship
Level 15: Command Training
Level 18: Field Ops Training
Level 21: Sniper Training

Powers:
Level 1: Psi Lash
Level 1: Mental Leech (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 6: Shadow of Doubt (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 8: Seraphim (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 11: Compassion
Level 14: Mind Break (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 17: Molecular Self-Assembly
Level 20: Mental Storm (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 23: Ego Storm (Rank 2, Malevolent Manifestation)
Level 26: Collective Will (Consume Will)
Level 29: Mindful Reinforcement (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 32: Empathic Healing (Empathic Amplification)
Level 35: Sigils of Radiant Sanctuary (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 38: Circle of Radiant Glory

Travel Powers:
Level 6: Teleportation
Level 35: Athletics

Specializations:
Presence: Selfless Ally (2/2)
Presence: Grandeur (3/3)
Presence: Moment of Glory (3/3)
Presence: Vulnerability (2/2)
Overseer: Administer (3/3)
Overseer: Ruthless (2/2)
Overseer: Honor (2/2)
Overseer: Trapped (3/3)
Sentinel: Caregiver (2/3)
Sentinel: Sentinel Aura (3/3)
Sentinel: Rejuvenated (3/3)
Sentinel: Wither (2/2)
Mastery: Sentinel Mastery (1/1)
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  • flowcytoflowcyto Posts: 12,852 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    From my experience, the duration of the CC effect doesn't influence the duration of the derived spec debuff (which are independent and go by their tooltip's descrip). Mental Storm may function differently, but if so then its going against the norm and I'd call it a bug.

    Reapplying the hold (like incapacitates do when maintained, or Hex's root adv) should refresh the debuff, but I think that's the extent of it.


    Ya planning on rolling Vulnerability by alternating between Ego and Mental Storm, even on bosses? Could work, I'm just wondering. Also, Ego SS seems to be a waste of an SS slot in this build- I'd just get Con SS (or Dex if ya wanted to stay squishy).
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  • theravenforcetheravenforce Posts: 7,139 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Nope. Doesn't matter whatsoever.

    All CC debuffs from specs apply on tap, full charge, half charge etc. As long as you press the power into activation on a target which is still alive, the spec debuffs will work.

    Do remember that Wither does work but does not have an icon which shows up on the target.

    The only downside I personally would see with not fully charging Mental Storm is the nigh instant breaking out of the hold enemies do when it is simply tapped.

    That being said it does act as a reasonable "interrupt" to enemies who are susceptible to it, outside of that you can use it as a quick tap debuff to Ego Damage and provide some defense reduction to all targets affected.

    Just make sure you hit well after application as those spec debuffs don't last long.
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  • jairevansjairevans Posts: 55 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    flowcyto wrote: »
    Ya planning on rolling Vulnerability by alternating between Ego and Mental Storm, even on bosses? Could work, I'm just wondering. Also, Ego SS seems to be a waste of an SS slot in this build- I'd just get Con SS (or Dex if ya wanted to stay squishy).

    That's the plan, who knows if it'll work. But that's the thought.

    I had started Dex then changed to Ego for ranged damage as I wasn't sure if DoTs can crit. I imagine I'll spend most of my global cooldowns playing whack-a-mole with all the DoTs coming off cooldown. Do Shadow of Doubt, Mental Leech, and Mental Storm crit? I would imagine Ego Storm does as it starts as a maintain before the advantage.
  • jairevansjairevans Posts: 55 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    theravenforce wrote: »
    The only downside I personally would see with not fully charging Mental Storm is the nigh instant breaking out of the hold enemies do when it is simply tapped.

    Just make sure you hit well after application as those spec debuffs don't last long.

    Yep, but most holds, paralyzes, and incapacitates are near instantly ended by damage anyway. I've got a manipulator, stall tactics, super pre stun-lock mage I use for CC. This is more a support via heal/group damage than lockdown experiment. Keep the group healed with passive hots or active shields, get buffs to my damage based on heals, turn that around into target defense debuffs to increase team damage.

    I hope it works.
  • flowcytoflowcyto Posts: 12,852 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    jairevans wrote: »
    That's the plan, who knows if it'll work. But that's the thought.

    I had started Dex then changed to Ego for ranged damage as I wasn't sure if DoTs can crit. I imagine I'll spend most of my global cooldowns playing whack-a-mole with all the DoTs coming off cooldown. Do Shadow of Doubt, Mental Leech, and Mental Storm crit? I would imagine Ego Storm does as it starts as a maintain before the advantage.
    The newer TP DoTs do scale w/ crit (as listed on their descriptions). They don't actually 'crit', they just get their base dmg buffed by ur general/listed crit% and severity. Mind Break would also crit too, ofc. I'd still prob take Con SS over that, though- playing low health & low-dodge/defense builds w/o a threat dump wouldn't be to my prefs (also if using Support ya take a 10% max HP hit, to boot).
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  • jairevansjairevans Posts: 55 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Now there's a useful bit of knowledge.
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