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Upper Hand with Ego Leech

jairevansjairevans Posts: 55 Arc User
edited July 2014 in Power Discussion
Anyone have a parse that shows that Upper Hand works (or doesn't work) with Ego Leech? It lists it as a condition that triggers it, but it says vs opponents suffering from that condition, and Ego Leech is a self buff now, not an enemy debuff.
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  • flowcytoflowcyto Posts: 12,852 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Not easy to parse, since the bonus is rather small. Attempting it w/ my test toon, so the numbers are at or close to basal:

    2 quick tests- all things the same except the spec used:

    Test 1 w/o Upper Hand:

    Specializations:
    Recovery: Rapid Recovery (3/3)
    Recovery: Staying Power (2/2)
    Recovery: Efficient (3/3)
    Recovery: Well Rounded (2/2)
    Sentinel: Caregiver (3/3)
    Sentinel: Sentinel Aura (3/3)
    Sentinel: Rejuvenated (2/3)
    Sentinel: Genesis (2/2)
    Warden: Fortified Gear (3/3)
    Warden: Elusive (2/2)
    Warden: Reactive Strikes (2/2)
    Warden: Tenacious (2/2)
    Warden: The Best Defense (1/3)
    Mastery: Recovery Mastery (1/1)

    Test 2 w/ Upper Hand:

    Specializations:
    Recovery: Rapid Recovery (3/3)
    Recovery: Staying Power (2/2)
    Recovery: Efficient (3/3)
    Recovery: Well Rounded (2/2)
    Sentinel: Caregiver (3/3)
    Sentinel: Sentinel Aura (3/3)
    Sentinel: Rejuvenated (2/3)
    Sentinel: Genesis (2/2)
    Warden: Fortified Gear (3/3)
    Warden: Elusive (2/2)
    Warden: Reactive Strikes (1/2)
    Warden: Upper Hand (3/3)
    Warden: The Best Defense (1/3)
    Mastery: Recovery Mastery (1/1)

    3 min tests using just CoAP for energy and the TK combo each had Test 1 at ~356 dps and test 2 at ~363 dps. But its still too short, rng/crit prone, and UH a small a diff to tell just going by dps alone.

    Better way is to look at the normal hit dmg ranges for each test. Taking the final hit of the combo (since its the highest) and skimming the hit parse:

    Test 1: 332 (399.544 base) - 367 (441.259 base)
    Test 2: 333 (400.698 base) - 367 (441.259 base)

    Doesn't seem like it works w/ EL.


    Testing w/ Viper's Fangs and Shredded, same setup and looking at the last hit again (excluding pre-shredded hits):

    Test 1 (424.63 dps, 3% tested crit): 421 (427.206) - 447 (452.873)
    Test 2 (431.55 dps, 7% tested crit): 422 (427.513) - 447 (452.865)

    hm, doesn't seem like UH is working at all, or maybe the bonus is additive and thus very small after DR is concerned, or doesn't work w/ every debuff listed.
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  • jairevansjairevans Posts: 55 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Thanks Flow!

    Alright, I'll stick with Fortified Gear, I know for sure it helps, even if only a little.
  • flowcytoflowcyto Posts: 12,852 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Since I had the shredded bug where it the stack duration doesn't cap after applying it many tiems w/ VF, a few more tests before it expired:

    Last hit of Beatdown + Shredded and 3x Stagger (ignoring early hits):

    Test 1 (345.05 dps, 2% tested crit): 326 (340.283 base) - 359 (374.556 base)
    Test 2 (358.16 dps, 8% tested crit): 326 (340.466 base) - 359 (374.754 base)

    nope.avi
    And that's w/ 2 debuffs for UL


    One more, w/ Rising Knee + Shredded, same setup:

    Test 1 (323.92 dps, 3% tested crit): 305 (333.981 base) - 337 (368.459 base)
    Test 2 (339.73 dps, 11% tested crit): 305 (334.355 base) - 335 (366.406 base)

    nada

    Now, all my tests w/ UH do have higher crit rates. That could be coincidental, but perhaps the bonus is for crit% and not dmg% as stated. Dunno, but something is def off.
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  • flowcytoflowcyto Posts: 12,852 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    jairevans wrote: »
    Thanks Flow!

    Alright, I'll stick with Fortified Gear, I know for sure it helps, even if only a little.

    Well, Fort Gear does have synergy w/ The Best Defense (and also subsequently Aggressive Stance), and it doubles as a minor survival boost. Elusive is another good option if ya haven't picked that up, or Tenacious/Reactive Strikes when solo.
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