I did actually enjoy it at times myself, but in the end it like most of the x movies feels like it suffers from the attempt to force decades of complex story into a few hours.
The fact they seemed to try to pull an Avengers out of their arses by bringing elements from all the other x movies into play felt forced and tended to bring back the bad memories of the bad films.
It suffered from the baggage it chose to add to itself is I guess what I am trying to say. It was a very Wolverine movie again which i am kind of sick of for the X men movies. I mean he has 2 solo movies as it is and only the 2nd was halfway decent sure but come on Logan or Jimmie as he gets called so often these days isnt that interesting to watch especially if he aint clawing the hell out of folks.
Honestly Logan was almost pointless in this movie. It should of actually been shadow cat as in the very first arc of the days of the future past, or since they even bothered to cast someone as bishop for a extremely short teaser role, they could of used the modernized story of the 90s cartoon to some great success honestly.
And then to actually pull the retcon at the end to smooth over some of the most raw rubbing WTF moments of the wretched trilogy again only served to remind me of all those films wasted potential rather then epicness.
I want my LOTR attempt at following the stories where sure they add extra action and modify some cahracters but at least the story actually follows and hits most of the high notes of the written work.
Is it worth watching? yeah. More then once? eh not really, I mean maybe if you and a bunch of friends are like having a weekend get together and want to watch like all the movies in some kind of chronological order of the events for kicks I could see suffering through even wolverine origins again so well yeah.
But is it worth theater prices, hassle of going to one, and the like? Well personally I used a pirate site as I wont and dont even really want to support more of the movies anyways.
The X movie franchise is in a far greater need of a true fresh relaunch then the spidey series was.
But is it worth theater prices, hassle of going to one, and the like? Well personally I used a pirate site as I wont and dont even really want to support more of the movies anyways.
If you really want to stick it to the man stop watching that stuff entirely. As with certain other things, if you don't like it, don't use it.
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I abandoned the X-men franchise long ago when I realized how badly they were butchering the source material. It's for the same reason that I couldn't get into Man of Steel.
I enjoyed it and felt it was a breath of fresh air after X-3 disappointed me. I thought that the time-travel story was done well and didn't feel unnecessarily convoluted.
I liked how the teaser short after the credits marked the coming -SPOILER BLOCK-.
But is it worth theater prices, hassle of going to one, and the like? Well personally I used a pirate site as I wont and dont even really want to support more of the movies anyways.
Why If you have no interest in a movie or supporting the franchise would you go to the hassle (not to mention the potential trouble you could cause your self) of getting it from a pirate site?
It also seems rather unfair to go judging a movie based on a iffy cam that you downloaded from the web.
For my part i enjoyed the movie immensely I didn't find wolverine to be all that central to the story though it was nice how they brought it kinda full circle what with prof X helping wolverine find his way and now wolverine helping young prof X. But really that's all wolverine is there for a bit of character development (heaven forbid they actually make a attempt to not have wolverine be the all action hero he normally is)
I just saw this myself over the weekend. I went in very skeptical. I came out quite delighted.
There's so much I want to say, but basically, I like the X-Men cast, but I didn't like the comics of Days of the Future Past or Age of Apocalypse or even Bishop's possible future. I'm just not a time travel fan, but I'm still a fan of this film.
I agree that, like Avengers, this film had a lot of baggage, but it was -also- about rewriting baggage, so it didn't seem out of place. Reason - I saw a little girl ask about that baggage, but she totally appreciated it was in the future/past.
IMHO, I rate this 5 out of 5 stars. I like it more than all the previous Marvel films.
(Personal note - it was so much fun comparing the past/future Professor X/Magneto actors. Like the younger actors are phenomenal, great RPers. Then their older counterparts do the same thing, yet so much better.)
I greatly enjoyed the film, over all. The family watched First Class the night before, so we had the story fresh in our minds. DoFP was the story that got me reading X-Men way back when, and I think they did a great job with the adaptation.
Like a previous poster, I do wish they would have stuck to using Kitty Pride as the main protagonist. I the market is over saturated by Wolverine and I personally don't find the character interesting or particularly intriguing. I would have much rather seen a teen acted by Ellen Page try to sway the past. I think that actress could have pulled off an adult living in a young person's body.
I stopped reading X-Men in the late 80's until Grant Morrison's run in 2001. It's clear I'm lacking some knowledge when it comes to characters like Bishop and Blink. If anything, this movie got me interested to go back and find the Age of Apocalypse books, before the next movie comes out.
I stopped reading X-Men in the late 80's until Grant Morrison's run in 2001. It's clear I'm lacking some knowledge when it comes to characters like Bishop and Blink. If anything, this movie got me interested to go back and find the Age of Apocalypse books, before the next movie comes out.
Haven't seen the movie yet, so I don't know how the characters compare, but in the comics, Bishop came in shortly before the Onslaught storyline. In his future, they were still rebuilding after a war that started when the X-Men were betrayed from the inside. He came backtime to try to stop it. (That big "M" branded into his face is what they do to mark mutants in his time.) His powerset is the absorption and redirection of energy; he also carries a big gun for those times when it's inconvenient to wait for enough energy to hit him so he can make a blast.
Blink started in Age of Apocalypse, as a rebel soldier fighting against Apocalypse's rulership. Later, she turned up in Exiles, a title whose basis involved a ragtag group of heroes being gathered from across the multiverse to repair those timelines that had "gone wrong". (One of my favorite stories in that title required the gathering of every version of Wolverine they could find, including a young James Howlett who had just discovered his claws and was very uncertain of this whole "hero" thing.) I haven't read any comics with regularity for a few years now, but I gather she's appeared in the 616-universe comic recently.
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Haven't seen the movie yet, so I don't know how the characters compare, but in the comics, Bishop came in shortly before the Onslaught storyline. In his future, they were still rebuilding after a war that started when the X-Men were betrayed from the inside. He came backtime to try to stop it. (That big "M" branded into his face is what they do to mark mutants in his time.) His powerset is the absorption and redirection of energy; he also carries a big gun for those times when it's inconvenient to wait for enough energy to hit him so he can make a blast.
Blink started in Age of Apocalypse, as a rebel soldier fighting against Apocalypse's rulership. Later, she turned up in Exiles, a title whose basis involved a ragtag group of heroes being gathered from across the multiverse to repair those timelines that had "gone wrong". (One of my favorite stories in that title required the gathering of every version of Wolverine they could find, including a young James Howlett who had just discovered his claws and was very uncertain of this whole "hero" thing.) I haven't read any comics with regularity for a few years now, but I gather she's appeared in the 616-universe comic recently.
No Bishop did not appear shortly before the Onslaught Event. He appeared years before it. Long before the name Onslaught was even thought up. Yes they tie it all into Bishops origin. Yes Onslaught was the traitor Bishop had been on a quest for what for him had become decades for he was one of the rare few who retained some of his time in AoA.
There is actually some great moments in the Issue where Onslaughts identity is revealed where they show Jean rushing to get out a message to all other hero groups about the internal threat, that if one compares to the issue many years before where Bishop far in the future discovers a broken partial recording of that message that he learns of the traitor but not who it was. This sets him on his own quest, but his actual goal was taking down the time traveling mutant he was after, who when Bishop absorbed some of his energy was able to remain in the past or some such( it has been years so some things get damn fuzzy)
Blink's origin had nothing NOTHING to do with AoA, yes she was a major character in that arc, directly because she had in her brief and incredibly heroic time in the prelude to Generation X during the Phalanx Covenant Saga garnered huge numbers of Fans that wanted more of her.
You see that is the biggest slap in the face to a blink fan about this movie. She NEVER EVER GOT TO GROW UP in our timeline to take part in The Days of the Future Past arc. It makes literally no sense to shoe horn her into the movie just so we readers can ID her.
You see Blink died in our timeline a fragile young girl who when push came to shove, and X men like Banshee and Anti heroes like Emma Frost and Sabertooth, a near mutant version of superman like M all could not save the day and protect the young mutants taken by the Phalanx, Blink stepped up, and known full well what she had to do, she sacrificed herself so that another generation of mutants could grow up to protect the world.
Blink died long after the events in the past and long before the events in the future. Now had they wanted to do an AoA movie, she would of been a perfect fit.
Great movie but I still dont like this naked* lizard look Mystique has in these movies U__U
Still at least this film finaly has her as a pretty cold assassin like in the comics.
*and yes I know in the Xmen books she is always naked, her white dress and her little white skull is down to her shape shifting and not wanting to look naked*
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I went to the movie on my 36+ hour road trip this last week. I rather enjoyed Days of Future's past... especially the fact they retconned everything starting with the ending of X2 onwards it seems. So no more X3, no more Wolverine Origins, and honestly, might seem to be respecting the source material going forward more now than the original XMen franchise did.
As far as Apocalypse goes, it's a wait and see, though honestly, Hugh Jackman might need a replacement soon.
It probably won't be that storyline. It'd feel rather repetitive to pull off another time traveling alternate universe movie. More than likely it'll be one of the earlier Apocalypse stories with his Four Horsemen.
I feel compelled to say. Trying to read "Age of Apocalypse" is reminding me why I stopped buying X-men in the 90's.
Unlikely to be Age of Apocalypse since Xavier's death was what kicked it off. Since they already hand waved his death away with The Wolverine and Days of Future's Past, I hardly think they will go that route again.
Haven't seen the movie yet, so I don't know how the characters compare, but in the comics, Bishop came in shortly before the Onslaught storyline. In his future, they were still rebuilding after a war that started when the X-Men were betrayed from the inside. He came backtime to try to stop it. (That big "M" branded into his face is what they do to mark mutants in his time.) His powerset is the absorption and redirection of energy; he also carries a big gun for those times when it's inconvenient to wait for enough energy to hit him so he can make a blast.
Bishop's arrival had nothing to do with Onslaught. It was long before he met Onslaught.
Bishop was cop from the alternative future that started when Sentinels took over humans and mutants. He came to the XX century pursuing Fitzroy, a time-traveling criminal from his time.
There was tie-in to Onslaught in Bishop's past, but it wasn't obvious till the very Onslaught story arc.
Nice movie. Not a bad one. But I'm sick of Wolverine since a very long time.
Just got around to watching this over the weekend. Kind of seemed like a step backward in comic book moviemaking.
I thought it was good...but there is no doubt in my mind that it was made right now to simply retcon out of The Last Stand...so they can move forward with more X-Men movies.
I thought it was good...but there is no doubt in my mind that it was made right now to simply retcon out of The Last Stand...so they can move forward with more X-Men movies.
I think it was designed to retcon out the ending to X2, The Last Stand and Origins: Wolverine. There was a lot there to prove this fact, but those would be spoilers. So I won't say anything, for now.
I think it was designed to retcon out the ending to X2, The Last Stand and Origins: Wolverine. There was a lot there to prove this fact, but those would be spoilers. So I won't say anything, for now.
And not having seen it yet, this news still makes me very happy. The only thing that would be better would be if Fox suddenly lost the rights to X-Men, and Marvel could fold them into Earth-199999.
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Just think...if sony and fox gave up their rights to all those characters(never going to happen.)... we could get a New Avengers movie!
It's probably Logan/Spidey big-screen fatigue talking, but between the Netflix series...es, and the Marvel movies, pretty much all the New Avengers I care about are going to have been on some kind of screen by the end of 2015. Getting them together would be incredible.
Technarchy and Phalanx storyline. That was his species, and they were a big X-book enemy if you recall, much like how the Brood were.
Still you still get the feeling they keep him around cause they cant bring themselves to tell him to b@%%£r off :P
Thats what I like about Warlock he is derpy hero without being super annoying in a Deadpool way.
He needs to be in the next movie saying they already said its gonna be set in the 1980's XD
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IIRC, Warlock is a mutant, at least in spirit. His degree of compassion sets him apart from the other members of his species.
Winner winner, chicken dinner. Warlock and Broo are both considered mutations of their respective races. Kid Gladiator, OTOH, just kind of got foisted on the X folks. And who the hell knows what Doop is (besides awesome).
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The fact they seemed to try to pull an Avengers out of their arses by bringing elements from all the other x movies into play felt forced and tended to bring back the bad memories of the bad films.
It suffered from the baggage it chose to add to itself is I guess what I am trying to say. It was a very Wolverine movie again which i am kind of sick of for the X men movies. I mean he has 2 solo movies as it is and only the 2nd was halfway decent sure but come on Logan or Jimmie as he gets called so often these days isnt that interesting to watch especially if he aint clawing the hell out of folks.
Honestly Logan was almost pointless in this movie. It should of actually been shadow cat as in the very first arc of the days of the future past, or since they even bothered to cast someone as bishop for a extremely short teaser role, they could of used the modernized story of the 90s cartoon to some great success honestly.
And then to actually pull the retcon at the end to smooth over some of the most raw rubbing WTF moments of the wretched trilogy again only served to remind me of all those films wasted potential rather then epicness.
I want my LOTR attempt at following the stories where sure they add extra action and modify some cahracters but at least the story actually follows and hits most of the high notes of the written work.
Is it worth watching? yeah. More then once? eh not really, I mean maybe if you and a bunch of friends are like having a weekend get together and want to watch like all the movies in some kind of chronological order of the events for kicks I could see suffering through even wolverine origins again so well yeah.
But is it worth theater prices, hassle of going to one, and the like? Well personally I used a pirate site as I wont and dont even really want to support more of the movies anyways.
The X movie franchise is in a far greater need of a true fresh relaunch then the spidey series was.
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I liked how the teaser short after the credits marked the coming -SPOILER BLOCK-.
Why If you have no interest in a movie or supporting the franchise would you go to the hassle (not to mention the potential trouble you could cause your self) of getting it from a pirate site?
It also seems rather unfair to go judging a movie based on a iffy cam that you downloaded from the web.
For my part i enjoyed the movie immensely I didn't find wolverine to be all that central to the story though it was nice how they brought it kinda full circle what with prof X helping wolverine find his way and now wolverine helping young prof X. But really that's all wolverine is there for a bit of character development (heaven forbid they actually make a attempt to not have wolverine be the all action hero he normally is)
There's so much I want to say, but basically, I like the X-Men cast, but I didn't like the comics of Days of the Future Past or Age of Apocalypse or even Bishop's possible future. I'm just not a time travel fan, but I'm still a fan of this film.
I agree that, like Avengers, this film had a lot of baggage, but it was -also- about rewriting baggage, so it didn't seem out of place. Reason - I saw a little girl ask about that baggage, but she totally appreciated it was in the future/past.
IMHO, I rate this 5 out of 5 stars. I like it more than all the previous Marvel films.
(Personal note - it was so much fun comparing the past/future Professor X/Magneto actors. Like the younger actors are phenomenal, great RPers. Then their older counterparts do the same thing, yet so much better.)
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Like a previous poster, I do wish they would have stuck to using Kitty Pride as the main protagonist. I the market is over saturated by Wolverine and I personally don't find the character interesting or particularly intriguing. I would have much rather seen a teen acted by Ellen Page try to sway the past. I think that actress could have pulled off an adult living in a young person's body.
I stopped reading X-Men in the late 80's until Grant Morrison's run in 2001. It's clear I'm lacking some knowledge when it comes to characters like Bishop and Blink. If anything, this movie got me interested to go back and find the Age of Apocalypse books, before the next movie comes out.
Blink started in Age of Apocalypse, as a rebel soldier fighting against Apocalypse's rulership. Later, she turned up in Exiles, a title whose basis involved a ragtag group of heroes being gathered from across the multiverse to repair those timelines that had "gone wrong". (One of my favorite stories in that title required the gathering of every version of Wolverine they could find, including a young James Howlett who had just discovered his claws and was very uncertain of this whole "hero" thing.) I haven't read any comics with regularity for a few years now, but I gather she's appeared in the 616-universe comic recently.
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No Bishop did not appear shortly before the Onslaught Event. He appeared years before it. Long before the name Onslaught was even thought up. Yes they tie it all into Bishops origin. Yes Onslaught was the traitor Bishop had been on a quest for what for him had become decades for he was one of the rare few who retained some of his time in AoA.
There is actually some great moments in the Issue where Onslaughts identity is revealed where they show Jean rushing to get out a message to all other hero groups about the internal threat, that if one compares to the issue many years before where Bishop far in the future discovers a broken partial recording of that message that he learns of the traitor but not who it was. This sets him on his own quest, but his actual goal was taking down the time traveling mutant he was after, who when Bishop absorbed some of his energy was able to remain in the past or some such( it has been years so some things get damn fuzzy)
Blink's origin had nothing NOTHING to do with AoA, yes she was a major character in that arc, directly because she had in her brief and incredibly heroic time in the prelude to Generation X during the Phalanx Covenant Saga garnered huge numbers of Fans that wanted more of her.
You see that is the biggest slap in the face to a blink fan about this movie. She NEVER EVER GOT TO GROW UP in our timeline to take part in The Days of the Future Past arc. It makes literally no sense to shoe horn her into the movie just so we readers can ID her.
You see Blink died in our timeline a fragile young girl who when push came to shove, and X men like Banshee and Anti heroes like Emma Frost and Sabertooth, a near mutant version of superman like M all could not save the day and protect the young mutants taken by the Phalanx, Blink stepped up, and known full well what she had to do, she sacrificed herself so that another generation of mutants could grow up to protect the world.
Blink died long after the events in the past and long before the events in the future. Now had they wanted to do an AoA movie, she would of been a perfect fit.
Also.... APOCALYPSE! Oh, shi----
Still at least this film finaly has her as a pretty cold assassin like in the comics.
*and yes I know in the Xmen books she is always naked, her white dress and her little white skull is down to her shape shifting and not wanting to look naked*
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Heh, I'm not sure how much of a spoiler that is given the title of the next film.
That and he was bound to turn up in the movies at some point. BUT WHAT THE HELL! Its took em 13 years to finaly get round to the first mutant.
He better be the MAIN villian ima sick of Magneto stealing the main villian role in almost EVERY main X-movie U__U
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As far as Apocalypse goes, it's a wait and see, though honestly, Hugh Jackman might need a replacement soon.
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Unlikely to be Age of Apocalypse since Xavier's death was what kicked it off. Since they already hand waved his death away with The Wolverine and Days of Future's Past, I hardly think they will go that route again.
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Bishop's arrival had nothing to do with Onslaught. It was long before he met Onslaught.
Bishop was cop from the alternative future that started when Sentinels took over humans and mutants. He came to the XX century pursuing Fitzroy, a time-traveling criminal from his time.
There was tie-in to Onslaught in Bishop's past, but it wasn't obvious till the very Onslaught story arc.
Nice movie. Not a bad one. But I'm sick of Wolverine since a very long time.
Rise of Apocalypse is a much better read. But Magneto just PWNING Apoc at the end of Age is all sorts of win.
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I will give it a shot. Thanks!
I thought it was good...but there is no doubt in my mind that it was made right now to simply retcon out of The Last Stand...so they can move forward with more X-Men movies.
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I think it was designed to retcon out the ending to X2, The Last Stand and Origins: Wolverine. There was a lot there to prove this fact, but those would be spoilers. So I won't say anything, for now.
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It's probably Logan/Spidey big-screen fatigue talking, but between the Netflix series...es, and the Marvel movies, pretty much all the New Avengers I care about are going to have been on some kind of screen by the end of 2015. Getting them together would be incredible.
Still dont know why Watlock is a member of the X-Men in the first place he's a fraking alien not a mutant :P
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Technarchy and Phalanx storyline. That was his species, and they were a big X-book enemy if you recall, much like how the Brood were.
Still you still get the feeling they keep him around cause they cant bring themselves to tell him to b@%%£r off :P
Thats what I like about Warlock he is derpy hero without being super annoying in a Deadpool way.
He needs to be in the next movie saying they already said its gonna be set in the 1980's XD
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IIRC, Warlock is a mutant, at least in spirit. His degree of compassion sets him apart from the other members of his species.
Winner winner, chicken dinner. Warlock and Broo are both considered mutations of their respective races. Kid Gladiator, OTOH, just kind of got foisted on the X folks. And who the hell knows what Doop is (besides awesome).
I suppose he is. Cant argue with this logic.
I would also like to see a certain slightly grumpy booze guzzling intergalactic killer for hire make an apperance in the movies at some point.
Lockheed gives both Apocalypse and The Brood THE FEAR @__@" he needs to be in the movies.
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