I don't think you guys understand how trolling RPG works, see there are these things called emotes, and something like a ping pong gun disrupts these emotes. So let's say you're over at club caprice sitting on a bar stool, someone shoots you with a ping pong gun and now you're standing on the bar stool. It tends to break immersion.
Personally I don't really care, troll me all you want, but some people take that sort of thing very seriously and I sympathize with them. As we might expect, people doing the trolling have no interest in RP and are there solely to ruin other people's fun.
This is what I'm talking about. It really does ruin the immersion and sometimes makes it hard to focus on the conversation at times.
I don't think you guys understand how trolling RPG works, see there are these things called emotes, and something like a ping pong gun disrupts these emotes. So let's say you're over at club caprice sitting on a bar stool, someone shoots you with a ping pong gun and now you're standing on the bar stool. It tends to break immersion.
Personally I don't really care, troll me all you want, but some people take that sort of thing very seriously and I sympathize with them. As we might expect, people doing the trolling have no interest in RP and are there solely to ruin other people's fun.
People should develop a sense of humour or better self control and discipline. If you're being affected so thoroughly by such an insignificant thing, 'trolls' on an MMO are the least of your worries.
Isn't this a convention of sorts? Aren't we supposed to have silly fun at conventions, or did I attend cons wrong?
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You're acting like puting that cooldown on them would somehow break them entirely. Seriously, it's not that big of a deal and I'm not sure why you're making it seem like the worst thing possible.
It's called arguing for the sake of arguing. You'll have a much easier time convincing a rock to dance a jig than you will trying to convince the "get a sense of humor" idiots that your point is just as valid as theirs.
People should develop a sense of humour or better self control and discipline. If you're being affected so thoroughly by such an insignificant thing, 'trolls' on an MMO are the least of your worries.
I think you'll find that I said that I said that I'm immune to trolling. However I find it strange that you would equate messing with strangers, i.e. trolling, to having a good sense of humour. You're essentially having fun at someone else's expense and that shows a distinct lack of empathy not a good sense of humour.
Now if you're pranking someone you know that's a different story. I don't use my devices on people I don't (with the exception of gifts or presents) know but I've pelted friends that I knew were AFK with water balloons and snowballs because I knew if they came back they'd be amused by my antics. Trolling is the opposite, you bother random people till you find one that gets annoyed and then your torment them relentlessly.
Where's the humour in ruining someone else's game experience? Let me give you an example: I was having a conversation with three other people, one character had a growth device and liked to imagine his hero was a giant, and as a result he usually sat or crouched so he could talk to his friends. Some random person that we'd never met before decided to harass him. Every time he tried to sit this yahoo threw a water balloon at him disrupting the emote. The player then tried to politely ask him to stop which is like blood in the water to these types and for the next hour this fellow pestered, followed us to different zones, before we finally retreated to a hide out.
I couldn't care less myself. Pester me all you want, I'll pester you back, but some people just want to be left alone and it's these folks that a troll loves to target. Their end game is making someone leave the game. How is that showing a good sense of humour?
I fully agree with the people who want to keep the devices like that are and have fun with them. I don't mind any device spamming myself, but I don't see why the people who don't want to join in on the event need to be singled out as targets by some people, as they appear to be when looking at some of the comments.
When someone asks you to stop for whatever reason, just leave them alone. We have more people playing CO now then we had for a long time, go find someone else who does enjoy all the sillyness. But limiting things in game is not a good "fix" for some people having a bad attitude, now it is these devices, last time it was teleport spamming, next time it will be something else.
We have have a TOS for these sort of things, and we (now) have a GM who should enforce it.
I don't think you guys understand how trolling RPG works, see there are these things called emotes, and something like a ping pong gun disrupts these emotes. So let's say you're over at club caprice sitting on a bar stool, someone shoots you with a ping pong gun and now you're standing on the bar stool. It tends to break immersion.
I don't see how adding a cooldown would prevent this.
Followers of this thread, step back for a moment and listen to what you are suggesting. You want a cooldown added to a fun toy, many people find fun because it can be rapid fired, because a small selection of people are being immature about using it.
This is not the only toy in the game, and altering the device will not stop trolls from trolling you. It will just tick off people who were legitimately having fun with it.
The suggestion that Caprice and social instances of the like have powers disabled is a much better idea as it actually starts to combat a wide variety of tools that trolls use and leaves people who don't mingle in such affairs out of it.
That, and it makes sense that a club for "supers" would have some sort of power-nulification tech to help maintain security.
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I don't see how adding a cooldown would prevent this.
Step back for a moment and listen to what you are suggesting. You want a cooldown added to a fun toy, many people find fun because it an be rapid fired, because a small selection of people are being immature about using it.
This is not the only toy in the game, and altering the device will not stop trolls from trolling you. It will just tick off people who were legitimately having fun with it.
I can see this being a lingering problem, and you know somebody is hoarding these things for future torment, so how's this for a compromise: Leave the devices alone while Foxbatcon is live, then add a cooldown in the removal patch. Everybody has their fun now, but Jagoff McTrollerson isn't still spamming trout slaps after Easter.
Suggesting that Caprice and social instances of the like have powers disabled is a much better idea as it actually starts to combat a wide variety of tools that trolls use and leaves people who don't mingle in such affairs out of it.
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They're not there in the beginning, but when your story ends / Gonna last with you longer than your friends
After a little bit of consideration and messing around with the stuff, I think I'm starting to care less about the rapid fire thing. I guess I'm just seeing as less of problem. I still sort of would like to see a small cooldown to at least allow retaliation (Maybe a 3-4 second cooldown).
The suggestion that Caprice and social instances of the like have powers disabled is a much better idea as it actually starts to combat a wide variety of tools that trolls use and leaves people who don't mingle in such affairs out of it.
I think I'm more for this now than I was my original suggestion. There could even be little visual cues to symbolize this... Like said power dampeners strewn through the place or a big-**** magnet with a bunch of equipment stuck to it hanging over the door frame.
I think I'm more for this now than I was my original suggestion. There could even be little visual cues to symbolize this... Like said power dampeners strewn through the place or a big-**** magnet with a bunch of equipment stuck to it hanging over the door frame.
Now I want to see Caliga stuck to a giant magnet on the ceiling.
Like said power dampeners strewn through the place or a big-**** magnet with a bunch of equipment, androids, and cyborgs stuck to it hanging over the door frame.
I think I see a slight flaw in your design.
Choose your enemies carefully, because they will define you / Make them interesting, because in some ways they will mind you
They're not there in the beginning, but when your story ends / Gonna last with you longer than your friends
The suggestion that Caprice and social instances of the like have powers disabled is a much better idea as it actually starts to combat a wide variety of tools that trolls use and leaves people who don't mingle in such affairs out of it.
That's actually great idea, as it solves a lot of potential problems without any need for GM's.
Oh, crap, I just remembered that all of Club Caprice's bouncers are heavy-duty cyborgs. Troll pi
Choose your enemies carefully, because they will define you / Make them interesting, because in some ways they will mind you
They're not there in the beginning, but when your story ends / Gonna last with you longer than your friends
I don't see how adding a cooldown would prevent this.
I never suggested it would. I was merely explaining the sort of trolling that we RPers experience in Club Caprice. I don't really see an option to fix this other then removing devices altogether or, better yet, making devices like this contingent on the ignore function. You can't trout slap people who have you on their ignore list.
The suggestion that Caprice and social instances of the like have powers disabled is a much better idea as it actually starts to combat a wide variety of tools that trolls use and leaves people who don't mingle in such affairs out of it.
This isn't a bad idea either but I do like my water balloons and it's their use that really makes all the difference here.
I think I'm more for this now than I was my original suggestion. There could even be little visual cues to symbolize this... Like said power dampeners strewn through the place or a big-**** magnet with a bunch of equipment stuck to it hanging over the door frame.
Dangit.
Actually....
A locked arms cage would be cool to check your weapons at the door...
Also, I think we should have a contest to redesign those bouncers. They look terrible.
I have to agree with this one. These devices are harmless people.. HARMLESS. It does no damage and serves it's purpose as a prank. Honestly, I've been hit with it a few times.. and you know what I did. I fired back! A few moments of silly ping-ponging and the incident was over.
But this hardly a game breaking issue - by any stretch of the imagination.
Man....this is why we can't have nice things. This community has some of the thinnest skin I've ever seen and the most bipolar opinions on the developers of the game...ever.
"Oh we want vehicles" Nope nevermind Stop making vehicles and make more bosses/map/dungeon content.
"Oh we want more boss content and harder bosses" Nope this boss and rampage are BS the bosses are too hard, make easy mode again.
"Oh we want our legacy devices back" Nope nerf devices.
"Dodge is OP" "omg you nerfed dodge how could you?"
"We want auras!" "These auras are stupid I have to use my hideout bank to transfer them to other characters"
Like seriously. At this point if I was a dev reading these forums I'd take 90% of the posts as fictitious and comical relief sections of an internet funny paper.
The temporary ones are only going to last so long. Have fun with it while you can and let it run its course. Cause the next time this game gets anything new or worthwhile might not be till damn near July. This game is an MMO, meaning the interactions that come with it involve random other people on a regular basis. Its like going outside, you know that thing past your front door. Its sad though, cause I see the same antisocial attitude in zone chat when people publicly announce
"OH NO, I have you on ignore, because you've RUSTLED MY JIMMIES!"
Its like...take a chill pill geeze its just a game.
"Oh we want vehicles" Nope nevermind Stop making vehicles and make more bosses/map/dungeon content.
"Oh we want more boss content and harder bosses" Nope this boss and rampage are BS the bosses are too hard, make easy mode again.
"Oh we want our legacy devices back" Nope nerf devices.
"Dodge is OP" "omg you nerfed dodge how could you?"
"We want auras!" "These auras are stupid I have to use my hideout bank to transfer them to other characters"
- We wanted vehicles as travel powers that fit the theme of the game. What we got were uncustomizable become devices that have no place in the superhero genre and only added more problems on a gameplay level.
- If Gravitar and Fire/Ice choose to ignore the threat mechanics of the game and just randomly one-shot healers then yes, that's what I call BS.
- Dodge was indeed OP. The people who complain about the nerf are min-maxing pvp'ers who make sure you get a chatban once you actually beat them. Who takes those guys seriously?
- Auras are great, ask anyone. Them unlocking for one character only and having to transfer them is a only minor annoyance.
I'm going to repeat what Cybersoldier has said multiple times: You're mistaking feedback for nerdrage. We are customers of a product. If we don't like what we get we have the right to tell the developers why. That's the only way an MMO is going to move forward.
Man....this is why we can't have nice things. This community has some of the thinnest skin I've ever seen and the most bipolar opinions on the developers of the game...ever.
That's because they're a business, not a girlfriend or homie. They produce a product, and our loyalty is not to them, not even to the product- but to the enjoyment of the product.
That being said, I think the developers are all pretty decent dudes. If I'm unhappy about something in the game, I'm pretty sure it wasn't LordGar being a D-Bag and cackling like a supervillain. If they make something cool, I'm pretty sure they weren't doing it because they like me. Even if I didn't like them personally, it would have little to nothing to do with how I feel about certain things in CO.
"Oh we want vehicles" Nope nevermind Stop making vehicles and make more bosses/map/dungeon content.
Yes. This is exactly how I feel. Why? We can't even get ground vehicles, which is what most people wanted. We can't customize our vehicles, which is what most people wanted. We were down with vehicles, but we got... these things. Not to mention, when vehicles were being pushed- everything else was pushed aside.
In a nutshell, "If you're going to continue to make them the way they are, then you might as well not make them at all." A lot of people agree with that.
Now find me one person playing this game that doesn't want new bosses/maps/dungeons.
"Oh we want more boss content and harder bosses" Nope this boss and rampage are BS the bosses are too hard, make easy mode again.
Well, until people figure out how the alerts work, they do this. It'll pass. Granted, I don't even know what kills me 99% of the time in Fire and Ice, so I don't bother. Forum Malvanum is a sorry DPS-race that I don't even want to say is half finished, it's an outright joke (they couldn't even be bothered to give the alien gladiators different powers, or even make new ones).
Like seriously. At this point if I was a dev reading these forums I'd take 90% of the posts as fictitious and comical relief sections of an internet funny paper.
And now I've got to be kind of a jerk- this is why you should never, ever be placed in charge of a product or business. Until you learn to sift through your customers' feedback, you'll just be doing 'what you want' which will soon be followed by 'while collecting uneployment'.
Most of these complaints are valid. Notice most of the time, people have a solution proposed when they make a complaint. Take some of mine;
-Instead of vehicles, perhaps consider 'customizable be-critters' that can be used on all maps. Give them a limited degree of costume options (like mech suits, fantasy armor, etc) and have melee and ranged 'power abilities' that people choose instead. This opens the versatility up for the vehicles and still gives players the ability to apply them as they see fit.
-Stop making gender-specific costumes, but if you must- offer that costume at a smaller price or offer a 'similar' costume for the other gender in the pack.
-If we can't do the foundry, at least hold contests for players to submit their own creations (new mob designs, new NPC designs, new Alert Boss contests) and let us share creativity.
-If you're not going to release new weapons, realease a pack with the weapons that already exist in-game.
Yes, we will criticize this game. We have a right to. And just because one guy says 'Do X' and the other says 'Do Y' doesn't mean 'we're bipolar'. Your 'you people' attitude in your post doesn't exclude you from being a part of this mob of forumites, unless you've never had a complaint or suggestion. Otherwise, it seems like you're talking down to other people that have no more or less value than you.
"We want auras!" "These auras are stupid I have to use my hideout bank to transfer them to other characters"
sorry but NO one asked for auras to byu them for EACH toon ... lol atleast acccount wide aura storage would be cool... loggin for auras sucks.. dont deny it...
Scorp hit the nail on the head, but I need to add my two cents.
That's because they're a business, not a girlfriend or homie. They produce a product, and our loyalty is not to them, not even to the product- but to the enjoyment of the product.
That being said, I think the developers are all pretty decent dudes. If I'm unhappy about something in the game, I'm pretty sure it wasn't LordGar being a D-Bag and cackling like a supervillain. If they make something cool, I'm pretty sure they weren't doing it because they like me. Even if I didn't like them personally, it would have little to nothing to do with how I feel about certain things in CO.
Yes. This is exactly how I feel. Why? We can't even get ground vehicles, which is what most people wanted. We can't customize our vehicles, which is what most people wanted. We were down with vehicles, but we got... these things. Not to mention, when vehicles were being pushed- everything else was pushed aside.
In a nutshell, "If you're going to continue to make them the way they are, then you might as well not make them at all." A lot of people agree with that.
Now find me one person playing this game that doesn't want new bosses/maps/dungeons.
Well, until people figure out how the alerts work, they do this. It'll pass. Granted, I don't even know what kills me 99% of the time in Fire and Ice, so I don't bother. Forum Malvanum is a sorry DPS-race that I don't even want to say is half finished, it's an outright joke (they couldn't even be bothered to give the alien gladiators different powers, or even make new ones).
And now I've got to be kind of a jerk- this is why you should never, ever be placed in charge of a product or business. Until you learn to sift through your customers' feedback, you'll just be doing 'what you want' which will soon be followed by 'while collecting uneployment'.
Most of these complaints are valid. Notice most of the time, people have a solution proposed when they make a complaint. Take some of mine;
-Instead of vehicles, perhaps consider 'customizable be-critters' that can be used on all maps. Give them a limited degree of costume options (like mech suits, fantasy armor, etc) and have melee and ranged 'power abilities' that people choose instead. This opens the versatility up for the vehicles and still gives players the ability to apply them as they see fit.
-Stop making gender-specific costumes, but if you must- offer that costume at a smaller price or offer a 'similar' costume for the other gender in the pack.
-If we can't do the foundry, at least hold contests for players to submit their own creations (new mob designs, new NPC designs, new Alert Boss contests) and let us share creativity.
-If you're not going to release new weapons, realease a pack with the weapons that already exist in-game.
Yes, we will criticize this game. We have a right to. And just because one guy says 'Do X' and the other says 'Do Y' doesn't mean 'we're bipolar'. Your 'you people' attitude in your post doesn't exclude you from being a part of this mob of forumites, unless you've never had a complaint or suggestion. Otherwise, it seems like you're talking down to other people that have no more or less value than you.
My thing is, I think we could get alot more accomplished communication wise with the commercial/developer if we took a more unified approach to coming up with solutions rather than " WE GOTTA HAVE X" "NO WE GOTTA HAVE Y" "WAIT WE GOTTA ASK THEM FOR Z" "IF WE ASK THEM FOR Z ITLL TAKE AWAY FROM Y"
I honestly think, and I can refer back to Riot Games for this example. But, I think the "Limited Private" PTS access to only subscribers. Cuts your feedback in a way that results in only getting feedback and thoughts from a limited scope of your entire playerbase.
If 15% of your player base has lifetime
and 35% of your player base are subscribers
and 50% of your player base don't subscribe/micro transactions only
While these estimates are purely fictitious if 50% of the player base are the only ones accessing and giving feedback on new content how do you expect to have a decent draw on what the 100% actually want to spend their money on?
If 25% of the 50% say X is fine while the other half say No X is a terrible idea, and you decide to go live with X anyway, then the other 50% say X was a terrible idea, thats 75% of your actual player base that says X was stupid.
You'd be able to draw from a bigger pool of accuracy if you took at least 80% of your entire player base and had them judge the same content. That way you don't waste money and resources on building X when 75% of the players actually hate X, not the 50% you thought it was gonna be when only 50% (possibly way lower) of the total player base actually has access to such content.
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This is what I'm talking about. It really does ruin the immersion and sometimes makes it hard to focus on the conversation at times.
People should develop a sense of humour or better self control and discipline. If you're being affected so thoroughly by such an insignificant thing, 'trolls' on an MMO are the least of your worries.
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It's called arguing for the sake of arguing. You'll have a much easier time convincing a rock to dance a jig than you will trying to convince the "get a sense of humor" idiots that your point is just as valid as theirs.
Now if you're pranking someone you know that's a different story. I don't use my devices on people I don't (with the exception of gifts or presents) know but I've pelted friends that I knew were AFK with water balloons and snowballs because I knew if they came back they'd be amused by my antics. Trolling is the opposite, you bother random people till you find one that gets annoyed and then your torment them relentlessly.
Where's the humour in ruining someone else's game experience? Let me give you an example: I was having a conversation with three other people, one character had a growth device and liked to imagine his hero was a giant, and as a result he usually sat or crouched so he could talk to his friends. Some random person that we'd never met before decided to harass him. Every time he tried to sit this yahoo threw a water balloon at him disrupting the emote. The player then tried to politely ask him to stop which is like blood in the water to these types and for the next hour this fellow pestered, followed us to different zones, before we finally retreated to a hide out.
I couldn't care less myself. Pester me all you want, I'll pester you back, but some people just want to be left alone and it's these folks that a troll loves to target. Their end game is making someone leave the game. How is that showing a good sense of humour?
When someone asks you to stop for whatever reason, just leave them alone. We have more people playing CO now then we had for a long time, go find someone else who does enjoy all the sillyness. But limiting things in game is not a good "fix" for some people having a bad attitude, now it is these devices, last time it was teleport spamming, next time it will be something else.
We have have a TOS for these sort of things, and we (now) have a GM who should enforce it.
I don't see how adding a cooldown would prevent this.
Followers of this thread, step back for a moment and listen to what you are suggesting. You want a cooldown added to a fun toy, many people find fun because it can be rapid fired, because a small selection of people are being immature about using it.
This is not the only toy in the game, and altering the device will not stop trolls from trolling you. It will just tick off people who were legitimately having fun with it.
The suggestion that Caprice and social instances of the like have powers disabled is a much better idea as it actually starts to combat a wide variety of tools that trolls use and leaves people who don't mingle in such affairs out of it.
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I can see this being a lingering problem, and you know somebody is hoarding these things for future torment, so how's this for a compromise: Leave the devices alone while Foxbatcon is live, then add a cooldown in the removal patch. Everybody has their fun now, but Jagoff McTrollerson isn't still spamming trout slaps after Easter.
They're not there in the beginning, but when your story ends / Gonna last with you longer than your friends
But, I do like this idea:
I think I'm more for this now than I was my original suggestion. There could even be little visual cues to symbolize this... Like said power dampeners strewn through the place or a big-**** magnet with a bunch of equipment stuck to it hanging over the door frame.
Now I want to see Caliga stuck to a giant magnet on the ceiling.
I think I see a slight flaw in your design.
They're not there in the beginning, but when your story ends / Gonna last with you longer than your friends
Put a couple of them up there for comedic effect.
Oh, crap, I just remembered that all of Club Caprice's bouncers are heavy-duty cyborgs. Troll pi
They're not there in the beginning, but when your story ends / Gonna last with you longer than your friends
This isn't a bad idea either but I do like my water balloons and it's their use that really makes all the difference here.
Dangit.
Actually....
A locked arms cage would be cool to check your weapons at the door...
Also, I think we should have a contest to redesign those bouncers. They look terrible.
There's an idea.
You mean you want to see the magnet and the ceiling get stuck to Caliga.
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Man....this is why we can't have nice things. This community has some of the thinnest skin I've ever seen and the most bipolar opinions on the developers of the game...ever.
"Oh we want vehicles" Nope nevermind Stop making vehicles and make more bosses/map/dungeon content.
"Oh we want more boss content and harder bosses" Nope this boss and rampage are BS the bosses are too hard, make easy mode again.
"Oh we want our legacy devices back" Nope nerf devices.
"Dodge is OP" "omg you nerfed dodge how could you?"
"We want auras!" "These auras are stupid I have to use my hideout bank to transfer them to other characters"
Like seriously. At this point if I was a dev reading these forums I'd take 90% of the posts as fictitious and comical relief sections of an internet funny paper.
The temporary ones are only going to last so long. Have fun with it while you can and let it run its course. Cause the next time this game gets anything new or worthwhile might not be till damn near July. This game is an MMO, meaning the interactions that come with it involve random other people on a regular basis. Its like going outside, you know that thing past your front door. Its sad though, cause I see the same antisocial attitude in zone chat when people publicly announce
"OH NO, I have you on ignore, because you've RUSTLED MY JIMMIES!"
Its like...take a chill pill geeze its just a game.
- We wanted vehicles as travel powers that fit the theme of the game. What we got were uncustomizable become devices that have no place in the superhero genre and only added more problems on a gameplay level.
- If Gravitar and Fire/Ice choose to ignore the threat mechanics of the game and just randomly one-shot healers then yes, that's what I call BS.
- Dodge was indeed OP. The people who complain about the nerf are min-maxing pvp'ers who make sure you get a chatban once you actually beat them. Who takes those guys seriously?
- Auras are great, ask anyone. Them unlocking for one character only and having to transfer them is a only minor annoyance.
I'm going to repeat what Cybersoldier has said multiple times: You're mistaking feedback for nerdrage. We are customers of a product. If we don't like what we get we have the right to tell the developers why. That's the only way an MMO is going to move forward.
That's because they're a business, not a girlfriend or homie. They produce a product, and our loyalty is not to them, not even to the product- but to the enjoyment of the product.
That being said, I think the developers are all pretty decent dudes. If I'm unhappy about something in the game, I'm pretty sure it wasn't LordGar being a D-Bag and cackling like a supervillain. If they make something cool, I'm pretty sure they weren't doing it because they like me. Even if I didn't like them personally, it would have little to nothing to do with how I feel about certain things in CO.
Yes. This is exactly how I feel. Why? We can't even get ground vehicles, which is what most people wanted. We can't customize our vehicles, which is what most people wanted. We were down with vehicles, but we got... these things. Not to mention, when vehicles were being pushed- everything else was pushed aside.
In a nutshell, "If you're going to continue to make them the way they are, then you might as well not make them at all." A lot of people agree with that.
Now find me one person playing this game that doesn't want new bosses/maps/dungeons.
Well, until people figure out how the alerts work, they do this. It'll pass. Granted, I don't even know what kills me 99% of the time in Fire and Ice, so I don't bother. Forum Malvanum is a sorry DPS-race that I don't even want to say is half finished, it's an outright joke (they couldn't even be bothered to give the alien gladiators different powers, or even make new ones).
And now I've got to be kind of a jerk- this is why you should never, ever be placed in charge of a product or business. Until you learn to sift through your customers' feedback, you'll just be doing 'what you want' which will soon be followed by 'while collecting uneployment'.
Most of these complaints are valid. Notice most of the time, people have a solution proposed when they make a complaint. Take some of mine;
-Instead of vehicles, perhaps consider 'customizable be-critters' that can be used on all maps. Give them a limited degree of costume options (like mech suits, fantasy armor, etc) and have melee and ranged 'power abilities' that people choose instead. This opens the versatility up for the vehicles and still gives players the ability to apply them as they see fit.
-Stop making gender-specific costumes, but if you must- offer that costume at a smaller price or offer a 'similar' costume for the other gender in the pack.
-If we can't do the foundry, at least hold contests for players to submit their own creations (new mob designs, new NPC designs, new Alert Boss contests) and let us share creativity.
-If you're not going to release new weapons, realease a pack with the weapons that already exist in-game.
Yes, we will criticize this game. We have a right to. And just because one guy says 'Do X' and the other says 'Do Y' doesn't mean 'we're bipolar'. Your 'you people' attitude in your post doesn't exclude you from being a part of this mob of forumites, unless you've never had a complaint or suggestion. Otherwise, it seems like you're talking down to other people that have no more or less value than you.
because vehicle are cool.. but to many is lame....
i agree the rampages are cool only RNG is stupid since many of my friend STILL hunt for tokens whiel i got mine within 22 days...
i agree with you
maybe its because it was just nerfed instead of balanced
sorry but NO one asked for auras to byu them for EACH toon ... lol atleast acccount wide aura storage would be cool... loggin for auras sucks.. dont deny it...
My thing is, I think we could get alot more accomplished communication wise with the commercial/developer if we took a more unified approach to coming up with solutions rather than " WE GOTTA HAVE X" "NO WE GOTTA HAVE Y" "WAIT WE GOTTA ASK THEM FOR Z" "IF WE ASK THEM FOR Z ITLL TAKE AWAY FROM Y"
I honestly think, and I can refer back to Riot Games for this example. But, I think the "Limited Private" PTS access to only subscribers. Cuts your feedback in a way that results in only getting feedback and thoughts from a limited scope of your entire playerbase.
If 15% of your player base has lifetime
and 35% of your player base are subscribers
and 50% of your player base don't subscribe/micro transactions only
While these estimates are purely fictitious if 50% of the player base are the only ones accessing and giving feedback on new content how do you expect to have a decent draw on what the 100% actually want to spend their money on?
If 25% of the 50% say X is fine while the other half say No X is a terrible idea, and you decide to go live with X anyway, then the other 50% say X was a terrible idea, thats 75% of your actual player base that says X was stupid.
You'd be able to draw from a bigger pool of accuracy if you took at least 80% of your entire player base and had them judge the same content. That way you don't waste money and resources on building X when 75% of the players actually hate X, not the 50% you thought it was gonna be when only 50% (possibly way lower) of the total player base actually has access to such content.