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kemmicals
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I've noticed that there doesn't' seem to be any sort of recharge or cooldown debuff on these particular devices and that they're being used as a form of trolling seeing as you can fire these off nonstop. Is there any chance of adding a small cooldown debuff to the character similar to Bionic Shielding to prevent this sort of abuse?
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Needs to be fixed. It is certainly not WAI.
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That will do the trick.
They may not be causing any damage, but they can be used on anything and anyone, for example - for locking other players into animation as long, as you have patience to click the device.
It's an oversight and should be fixed once and for good.
i like the new foxbat gun
even with high int its still like 4 seconds recharge... so... its okay
Because I can take mine, find you and spam it at you while you are trying to talk to someone until I'm bored.
With all my device slots filled with it.
And I'm not easily bored...
Let's see if it will be still fun as hell?
Well, in abovementioned example situation - it will be certainly fun for me. :biggrin:
Now it's easier to understand?
heh we did this yesterday we shot eachother for hours with the new guns, combined with old devices this gave us alot of shts and giggles
Don't get me wrong. I love the new devices, but after seeing this stuff first hand, I can see this sort of stuff to be a real pain in the **** to people who are trying to roleplay or just trying to stand for a costume contest. The constant slapping/shooting can get really annoying.
Because some players aren't mature enough to be given devices without limitations.
Hey i was doing the event , runnign around with a Foxbat gun in a foxbat costume saying:
Iiiiits FOXTHBAT Time !!!
So, it's part of the event to screw with my pose in a CC and then run up and slap me repeatedly when I go to get my prize?
Yeah, I don't buy it.
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There are enough people who are willing participants, there is no need to deliberately go around to annoy people. Continuing that behavior against a certain person or group for longer peroid of time is harassment, which is against the TOS.
I suspect unwilling participants drop more amusement tokens.
whats the sense in spanking people with a fish if they like it?
a prank is not a prank if you have to ask the people to do so...
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And before this thread turns into another heated debate about trolling roleplayers, I'd like to remind everyone that r9xchaos has a different definition of the term "harassment" than most people here.
Lemme just put that in bold so people know that from the get go.
just give them a longer cooldown while you are in club caprice or theatre...
but leave them as they are in open world pls
You can say that the security staff has cutting edge power/device nullifier augmentations and devices.
Might want to stop and consider that the next time you're in Caprice and crying to RPers about none of the RPers wanting to RP with you then.
WOW, you think they would have tested these things before letting the moronic masses play with them. GG Cryptic..GG.
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I'll......FOAM FINGER YOUR BACK!
The purple quality ones cannot be rapid fired.
I have no friends, and yet everyone fires these things at me. It's one thing to be poked everyday...but this....this is slowly diminishing my sanity -_-
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Yeah... It is kinda fun. Still, its potential trolling purposes worry me.
*sneaks up on Caliga and machine guns ping pongs at him* MUAHAHHAHAHAHA.
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Earlier, I spotted someone getting fragged for more than twenty (clip size?) rapid fire shots. Sounded more like 100. How could you even do that?
And, really, why would you do that?
I spent the afternoon farming and I might have ended up with 60 or so at the end. I don't think I'd want to use them all up in 6 seconds.
Then again, if I spotted Offender just standing in the RenCen...
Such is the price of fame. :cool:
So... after a week or so of farming, I'm just supposed to wait until supplies diminish? I guess I can't go to the club and expect a decent RP session until people stop getting their kicks out of pegging me with ping pong balls and knocking me out of my stances. That's dandy.
one thing is superdance loop its stop waterballoon from putting you in silly pose i think
Honestly can you say that you genuinely believe with how other devices in the past had been used to the same ends that Cryptic couldn't have figured out ahead of time exactly how these devices would be used by many players in the Community?
Yeah, it leads us to think maybe the biggest trolls in the game are Cryptic themselves.
In which case honestly, We find it kind of amusing personally.
Hanlon's razor says:
Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.
I think this lines go to explain the number of people actually offended by this harmless device and calling it trolling. This seriously demonstrates how truly immature our player base is at times. People would have a point if it did something like caused damage, or spawned level 50 monsters on top of you, or if they were dragging GMs to Ren Center to ruin your day.
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1. The perma-device cooldown was nerfed because with MSA, the pingpong gun worked as a better energy builder than the one provided at level 1.
2. Devices are unaffected by CDR.
3. PWE has no issue with nerfing 'fun' devices.
I'd rather get STO's level of lockbox suck if worthwhile updates come with it. -Buxom
I think I just came up with a good idea for Caligas and his "not friends." Let's have them save all of their ammo for the last day of the FBCon. Then they can find Caliga in his usual place i.e. the RenCen near the PH, form a circular firing squad (the only time its not a dumb idea is in an MMO), do a count down and fire until you run out of ammo.
If you guys really decide to do this, make sure someone does a video cap. EVERYONE is going to want to see it. Heck, I bet if it were done right, we could sell tee shirts. It could become our games version of a Celebrity Dunk Tank.
This time it's Caliga, next time it will be Offender (Actually, I can easily imagine a batch of Brigade pelting Offender since both are a Smackwell creation), after that Brou or Nepht or Slappefish, who needs to be slapped by a fish (or a frying pan).
Hmm... Or the game could be as simple as anyone that is standing behind the FB podium, on the RenCen stage, at the top of every hour, IS the celebrity target.
I really have no problem if they're thwacking me every so often just for the funsies. I do have a problem if they're doing it constantly whenever a person comes into a certain distance of them or when the person catches the other's eye. There's a clear difference between harmless fun and mindless pestering.
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I have to agree with this one. These devices are harmless people.. HARMLESS. It does no damage and serves it's purpose as a prank. Honestly, I've been hit with it a few times.. and you know what I did. I fired back! A few moments of silly ping-ponging and the incident was over.
But this hardly a game breaking issue - by any stretch of the imagination.
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I like to RP and this still doesn't bug me. It's injecting fun, no ones RP is that serious that they can't have some outside stimuli.
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I never said I wanted them removed altogether. Just a small cooldown period on the limited versions of the devices. 4-5 seconds isn't going to hurt people that much.
No and machine gun fire isn't going to hurt people either. It's seriously not causing any problems. This is such a non-issue it's literally trying to create a problem that doesn't exist. Removing fun from the game is not a smart thing to do.
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Well, in social instances? No powers or devices should work. At all. Period.
Because when people are blatantly harassing others with power and device spamming (not using for chuckles, I like the ping pong guns, they're fun)... that defines 'taking fun out of the game'.
You're acting like puting that cooldown on them would somehow break them entirely. Seriously, it's not that big of a deal and I'm not sure why you're making it seem like the worst thing possible.
Machine gunning them is the fun part, so yes putting the CD timer would break the fun. And I don't even use the things and I certainly don't care when people run up and start firing them at me. It's not even remotely close to game breaking and the only way I would agree with a change is if a dev actually said it's causing undo stress on the server. Otherwise, decrying a fun device needs to be changed because all you will do is make people just start using it on you slower is just attempting to remove the fun from a game that doesn't need it removed.
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Personally I don't really care, troll me all you want, but some people take that sort of thing very seriously and I sympathize with them. As we might expect, people doing the trolling have no interest in RP and are there solely to ruin other people's fun.
The only ones left out are those who get their jollies spamming non-consentual targets.