Guns, for the love of Chuck Heston!

cybersoldier1981 · July 2012

meedacthunist · July 2012

/signed
Also:
Colt SAA

And
Mauser C96

For completing both Plains Drifter and Pulp costume sets. Both are very iconic models.
Dunno why we have such obscure weapons like P08 Luger in Pulp set (quite popular look, but not THAT popular in movies like Mauser C96 and P08 never was widely used outside of German army, and even Germans dumped this shooting catastrophe in late thirties), but no really iconic models like C96, Colt M1911 or Colt SAA.

Aaand:
Flintlock Musket/Rifle

We have flintlock pistols but no matching flintlock rifles. For obvious reasons alredy existing ingame (but unavailable since On Alert) wheellock arquebus isn't a proper companion for flintlock pistol (And just like Luger, should not be a first choice for including it ingame. It's a wheel lock weapon, has little to do with golden age of piracy. It should be flintlock musket instead.).

Most needed are for sure Colt M1911 and Colt SAA models.

rstzed · July 2012

Before we get to those detailed items, we need to get some general weapons:

Double Barreled Shotgun

Flintlock Rifle/Musket

Crossbow

These are iconic for costumes. The weapons you suggest would be nice, but they are variations on existing themes.

At lease we finally got a Tommy Gun.

lotar295 · July 2012

I would like to see more weapons skins in munitions.But you did leave out 2 categories,RPGs and Gatling guns.Which also need more skins.

yougan · July 2012

i would rather see allot more skills for the same weapon, we only have a few gun skills and they barely do a full bar justice.
better yet, there are way to many weapons with just one skill, that seriously needs to change.

meedacthunist · July 2012

I fail to see how many different useful powers can be created for sniper rifles or rocket launchers, really. Or for submachine gun.

What we need is greater interchangeability between weapon models and powers.

There is no reason why all the existing assault rifle and submachine gun models aren't available in all assault rifle/smg powers. A real life factor of greater range for rifles is nonexistent because we aren't shooting at realistic distances. Enemies are very close and what is labeled on tooltips as 50 or 100 feet doesn't looks like a real 50/100 feet. Certainly not like a real 800( 2600+ feets) of real snipers rifle. 120 feet range of snipers rifle? 120 feet is a real world average distance for assault rifles and really good shooters with submachine guns or very powerful handguns. We may be as well using SMG and AR skins with this power.

We should be able to use all AR/SMG skins with all AR/SMG (and maybe even sniper rifle) powers and all AR skins with sniper rifle power.

Also, shorter weapon geos, like:

http://www.champions-online-wiki.com/wiki/File:Modern_Conventional_SMG_Pistol_2.png
http://www.champions-online-wiki.com/wiki/File:Anime_Style_Rifle_2.png

needs to be reworked, because these are too short and shooter supporting hand ends supporting thin air below muzzle or clipping with gun.

coltmcgrath999 · December 2012

cybersoldier1981 wrote: »

First and foremost, I'd like to say that the firearms mentioned in this thread are posted for reference and inspiration purposes only. In no way do I expect Champions Online to produce copyrighted weapons, nor do I expect all of these weapons to make their way into the game. This is merely in the hopes that someone sees the idea and takes steps to create something for us munitions gun-monkeys out there.

As it stands, we have a few firearms that are 'conventional', and this is something that does need a little love. I'm not saying it's the most neglected weapons costumes in CO (Ego blades, claws- sorry fellas) but we could all use a little love in this area.

Pistols

FN Five-seveN: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/23/FN5701.jpg/300px-FN5701.jpg
MP-412 REX: http://www.battlestrats.com/images/2010/01/MP-412-REX.jpg
Brugger & Thomet MP9: http://world.guns.ru/userfiles/images/smg/smg63/bt_mp9_0.jpg
Colt 1911: http://www.ironfoot.co.uk/shop/images/uploads/p_pistol_m1911a1_colt_government.jpg
FNP-9: http://www.tactical-life.com/online/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/fnh-usa.jpg
Olympic Arms OA-93: http://www.quarterbore.com/images/oa961.jpg
Ingram MAC-10: http://img.redwolfairsoft.com/upload/news/797/tm-oct07-mac10-1.jpg
Calico M950: http://world.guns.ru/userfiles/images/smg/smg57/calico950.jpg
AMT Hardballer Longslide: http://www.imfdb.org/w/images/9/9d/ED_45.jpg
Sig-Sauer P220 Sport: http://www.imfdb.org/w/images/thumb/d/db/SigP220Sport.jpg/400px-SigP220Sport.jpg
Steyr TMP: http://world.guns.ru/userfiles/images/smg/austria/1287828849.jpg
Beretta PX4 Storm: http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/images/18156.jpg
H&K MP7: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/402/hkmp7a1.png/sr=1

SMG's
Arsenal Shipka: http://www.armyrecognition.com/components/ebygallery/milipol2007/up/arsenal_9x19mm_shipka_sub-machine_gun_smg_milipol_2007_001.jpg
QCW-05: http://www.imfdb.org/w/images/thumb/6/62/JS05.jpg/400px-JS05.jpg
FN P90: http://www.globalspot.net/p90/images/p90tac2.jpg
PP-19 Bizon: http://world.guns.ru/userfiles/images/smg/smg08/bizon.jpg
Sterling Mark 6: http://www.imfdb.org/w/images/thumb/b/b3/Sterling-Mk-4.jpg/400px-Sterling-Mk-4.jpg
H&K UMP: http://www.hk-usa.com/-images/products/ump/lg_ump.jpg

Shotguns
Kel-Tec KSG: http://www.keltecweapons.com/uploaded_files/tinymce/images/KSG_3357web.jpg
USAS-12: http://world.guns.ru/userfiles/images/shotgun/sh16/usas-12.jpg
SRM Arms Model 1208: http://world.guns.ru/userfiles/images/shotgun/usa/1332674648.jpg
Saiga-12: http://forum.saiga-12.com/style_images/1/Saiga.gif

Rifles
H&K SL8: http://petesdiscountfirearms.com/images/SL8-1_rifle.gif
IMI Tavor TAR-21: http://world.guns.ru/userfiles/images/assault/as30/tavor_02.jpg
H&K XM25: http://world.guns.ru/userfiles/images/grenade/gl13/xm25_0.jpg
Steyr AUG: http://world.guns.ru/userfiles/images/assault/as20/aug_s.jpg
FN 2000 Tactical: http://www.fnhusa.com/support/images/dynamic/m/FNM0156mb.png
L85A1: http://world.guns.ru/userfiles/images/assault/as22/sa80-l85a2.jpg

Sniper Rifles
EDM Windrunner: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_6Ya37qtJqsA/TB0al7ceObI/AAAAAAAAAE4/lFm5siAYf1g/s1600/Windrunner.jpg
Barret M82A2: http://world.guns.ru/userfiles/images/sniper/sn02/barrett_m82a2.jpg
SVD Dragunov: http://www.militarypictures.info/weapons/Dragunov.jpg.html

Like I said before, I know not every one of these weapons will make it in game, but here's hoping that the suggestion might spark the hybrid of a few of these or at least a reasonable imitation.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I just had a wargasm and I need a drink of water.

that and power armor weapons need
more customization. can any one point me to the power armor forums???

strongbeau · December 2012

This would be nice. Also they could look at post modern Shadowrun weapons as well like the Robocop gun/Ares Predator.

Also, they need to return the RF Pulson pistol as another experimental blaster skin for the gadgeteer. I used that for a long time until they made it Munitions only. I don't know why either, it looks like Padme's raygun in SW E1 and its an "RF" aka Radio Frequency gun...Energy. Look at it: http://www.champions-online-wiki.com/wiki/Pulson_RF_Pistol

I'd like my raygun back. Easy fix.

thelostexile · June 2013

/signed.

I don't need a reason to sign this, cause guns.

Unknown · June 2013

This content has been removed.

squaringcircles · March 2014

Rise from your grave.

Shotgun
Winchester M1887
I mean we can get these as back acessories, why aren't they available as actual weapon models?

Sniper Rifle
Scoped Whitworth Rifle

cybersoldier1981 · March 2014

squaringcircles wrote: »

Rise from your grave.

Shotgun
Winchester M1887
I mean we can get these as back acessories, why aren't they available as actual weapon models?

Sniper Rifle
Scoped Whitworth Rifle

Actually, could we merge this with my other 'CO Needs More weapons' thread? I've forgotten about this.

jonsills · March 2014

It's not really about powers, meeda. You're right - there aren't that many superhero powers that can work with guns. It's about skins - about the different costumes your weapons can have. Captain Americlown is of course a Soldier - but he's also a clown, and the closest I could come to a clownish weapon for his machine-gun power was a tommy gun with garish colors. (At least I had an old musket unlock for the Rifle, and the silly six-barreled Gatling Pistol for his Pistol powers). A greater variety of weapons, and perhaps the ability to color them properly (or improperly, as the mood strikes), would be nice.

hyperstrikecoh · March 2014

Ooh! Guns guns guns!

.

meedacthunist · March 2014

jonsills wrote: »

It's not really about powers, meeda. You're right - there aren't that many superhero powers that can work with guns. It's about skins - about the different costumes your weapons can have. Captain Americlown is of course a Soldier - but he's also a clown, and the closest I could come to a clownish weapon for his machine-gun power was a tommy gun with garish colors. (At least I had an old musket unlock for the Rifle, and the silly six-barreled Gatling Pistol for his Pistol powers). A greater variety of weapons, and perhaps the ability to color them properly (or improperly, as the mood strikes), would be nice.

That's why I think it's better to have complete interchangeability of models between rifle/SMG/sniper powers, instead of creating new powers for every weapon type.

a) - it is easier to do and saves problems with balancing new powers, and result is the same

and

b) - character can stick with at most 2 weapon models of his/her choice

Additional profit is that game is not spammed with redundant new powers made only for sake of cosmetics.

I'm firm worshipper of K.I.S.S. design philosophy in pretty much everything. I hate redundancy.

Guns, for the love of Chuck Heston!

Comments