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Silver Freeforms

r9xchaosr9xchaos Posts: 532
edited March 2014 in Champions Online Discussion
Hello,

I completely agree that freeforms should cost alot of money... but what i disagree is that we pay 50 Dollars and we are not allowed to "atleast" change the powercolors or ALL our powers...

Leave the selective color change option to gold/timers .. i totally understand that


but what i mean is please give us ATLEAST the button that makes ALL power colors to 1 selected color.

When spendign 50 dollars on each FF slot i want atleast to be able to do that with my colors... please?


hell i would even buy and "upgrade" for 500-1000 Zen to addd that Button to my Freeform.




P.S. im planning to buy even more freeform slots but the only thinng that holds me back that i pay alot of money and then i have to select my powers based on colors instead of use ... :(
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  • jennymachxjennymachx Posts: 3,002 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    I agree. Freeform slots should also unlock power colorization for toons using the slots. 5000 ZEN is already a pretty hefty price. Giving power colorization is a small compromise in giving more incentive to even begin considering investing in something that expensive.
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  • aceretrieveraceretriever Posts: 239 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    I agree, or at least drop the price to around 20 USD.
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  • jerax1011jerax1011 Posts: 974 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    r9xchaos wrote: »

    hell i would even buy and "upgrade" for 500-1000 Zen to add that Button to my Freeform.


    This should happen for silver accounts (even if character only), I'd love to be able to change the colors of my dried mistletoe and balloons again ><
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  • nephtnepht Posts: 6,898 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    /signed fully for this.
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  • lilsteffielilsteffie Posts: 602 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    $50 for a a freeform and we cant even change colours. Besides us silver players only have so many freeform slots right?

    /Signed.
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  • cybersoldier1981cybersoldier1981 Posts: 2,501 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    I think it should be color changable, all the goodies that come with it, AND you should be able to convert an existing character to the Freeform system.
  • ashensnowashensnow Posts: 2,048 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    cybersoldier1981 wrote: »
    I think it should be color changable, all the goodies that come with it, AND you should be able to convert an existing character to the Freeform system.

    Gotta agree with this.
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  • cybersoldier1981cybersoldier1981 Posts: 2,501 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    ashensnow wrote: »
    Gotta agree with this.
    No kidding. You can get most whole video games for $50.00. Making a neutered version of freeform for that price is a joke. An outright insult.
  • ashensnowashensnow Posts: 2,048 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    cybersoldier1981 wrote: »
    No kidding. You can get most whole video games for $50.00. Making a neutered version of freeform for that price is a joke. An outright insult.

    Well, I don't generally feel insulted by prices, I pay if I find the item worth the price and don't if I don't.

    The fifty bucks seems high, but is probably set with the assumption that some portion of the price will be paid through Q farming. Even so $50 is an awful lot to pay for a single character slot, particularly one that does not come with all of the benefits, IMO.
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  • jennymachxjennymachx Posts: 3,002 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    The high price has to do with paying a lump sum upfront for a permanent freeform slot if the player wants to outright avoid paying for a monthly gold subscription free to maintain access for freeform. The price for the slot has to be justifiably high in this case. That's not to say that the player shouldn't enjoy an extra perk or two that comes with the gold subscription to compliment the freeform slot.
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  • lafury001200lafury001200 Posts: 567 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    lilsteffie wrote: »
    $50 for a a freeform and we cant even change colours. Besides us silver players only have so many freeform slots right?

    /Signed.

    I've gotten an extra character slot to accomodate the freeform purchase every time. 4 on my main acct which was gold for something like 1k days and had unused character slots so I didn't notice when purchasing those. My alt acct I created to test a theory when the drifter grab bag was released. Aside from one month of subbing, it's been a silver account. Again always received a slot to go with the FF purchase. If the thought of having to delete a character has been what's stopping you from getting another FF slot, you shouldn't worry.

    Also they cost too much. When I encounter someone who is new/returning and they ask about options re: freeform, they usually state first that they don't wanna subscribe to games, and second, express shock when I mention the FF slot option. We need more players, not less. Please lower the price.

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  • blueionstormzblueionstormz Posts: 303 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    r9xchaos wrote: »
    please give us ATLEAST the button that makes ALL power colors to 1 selected color.

    /signed for this.
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  • champiom18000champiom18000 Posts: 9 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    /signed.......
  • avianosavianos Posts: 6,200 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    /Signed

    either that or just SELL the Color Change for Archetypes and Silver FreeForms in the Z-store

    I own 15 FreeForms slot characters, I want to change their powers' color to match their theme color or because they look like a Christmas Ornament with all Different powers which don't match! (I'm looking at you Crescendo)
    also I hate Bountiful Chi Resurgence because of that Green Visual that Mismatch the Chraracter's Main color! :mad:
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  • zahinderzahinder Posts: 996 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    ... you spent $750 on FF slots??? Instead of going Lifetime??


    I have to assume you ground Q for that, but that actually frightens me more...
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  • avianosavianos Posts: 6,200 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    zahinder wrote: »
    ... you spent $750 on FF slots??? Instead of going Lifetime??


    I have to assume you ground Q for that, but that actually frightens me more...

    If I had all that money I would go Lifetimer Instantly

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  • chaosdrgnz43chaosdrgnz43 Posts: 1,683 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    I'd rather want the price lower a little bit, or a monthly sale for the ff slot. A powerhue item in the service tab at Z-store doesn't sound so bad too. Although, the price for it will probably be same as costume sets/auras. :/
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  • r9xchaosr9xchaos Posts: 532
    edited March 2014
    avianos wrote: »
    /Signed
    also I hate Bountiful Chi Resurgence because of that Green Visual that Mismatch the Chraracter's Main color! :mad:


    oh dear i feel you :O


    i hope we get to hear some words from a staff member on this oO
  • doomedluke1doomedluke1 Posts: 118 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Every time I see this subject in a thread, I think Cryptic should at least put in Z-Store some way so that silver players could recolor powers. Maybe account wide or a cheaper per character token.

    Also, I'm willing to buy a FF slot for some time now but this price of U$50,00 is really high, especially considering the conversion to brazilian currency - that would be about 130,00 brazilian reais, and this is quite some money here to spend only in a service within a game, it's even more expensive than a new full priced game, which normally caps at about R$100,00.

    I don't see why not lower the FF slot price. People not willing to sub just for the slot (like me) still won't sub just because the price of silver FF is high. I don't like the idea of "renting" the items, so I much prefer to buy just the services and items I want. If the price were lower, let's say half what it is now, I'd probably already bought at least one. I think there would be much more people spending money in the game.
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  • lestylolestylo Posts: 379 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    /very much signed

    Though I am surprised to see the shift of opinion on this issue. I remember when everyone was against it back in the day. In any case I'm also surprised that Cryptic hasn't made a purchasable option of colors or a purchasable themed "color-pack" akin to the auras now, consisting of a limited number of colors per theme (darkness getting shades of purple, blue, black, celestial getting white, yellow and so on). Something along those lines should have been in the works at least.
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  • lafury001200lafury001200 Posts: 567 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    doomedluke1 wrote: »
    Every time I see this subject in a thread, I think Cryptic should at least put in Z-Store some way so that silver players could recolor powers. Maybe account wide or a cheaper per character token.

    Also, I'm willing to buy a FF slot for some time now but this price of U$50,00 is really high, especially considering the conversion to brazilian currency - that would be about 130,00 brazilian reais, and this is quite some money here to spend only in a service within a game, it's even more expensive than a new full priced game, which normally caps at about R$100,00.

    I don't see why not lower the FF slot price. People not willing to sub just for the slot (like me) still won't sub just because the price of silver FF is high. I don't like the idea of "renting" the items, so I much prefer to buy just the services and items I want. If the price were lower, let's say half what it is now, I'd probably already bought at least one. I think there would be much more people spending money in the game.

    How about 20 bucks? FF character slot and 2 choices of outfits off the z store. Can't we at least try some different pricing methods?
  • selpheaselphea Posts: 1,229 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Why not take a page from Tera, EVE and Wildstar and sell 30 day gold subs for 1500z?
  • stergasterga Posts: 2,353 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    lestylo wrote: »
    /very much signed

    Though I am surprised to see the shift of opinion on this issue. I remember when everyone was against it back in the day. In any case I'm also surprised that Cryptic hasn't made a purchasable option of colors or a purchasable themed "color-pack" akin to the auras now, consisting of a limited number of colors per theme (darkness getting shades of purple, blue, black, celestial getting white, yellow and so on). Something along those lines should have been in the works at least.

    It is funny. It's even more hilarious is that when people started saying if FF was made available, it should be very expensive. One great idea after another...

    No, there shouldn't be a way to buy color changing in the cash shop for FF slots because they're 50 f-ing dollars. It should be part of buying a FF slot. For that much money, you should also be able to change emanation points. People are very excited by the 50% off sales, why not have that price all the time?
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  • meedacthunistmeedacthunist Posts: 2,967 Arc User1
    edited March 2014
    /signed for a very simple reason:

    In terms of price, our FF slot s are comparable with STO endgame ship bundles, these are also priced at 5000 Zen.
    Except when you are buying 5000 Zen ships they aren't sold with limited customisation, with less hull materials, or less model parts, depending from the account type.
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  • zahinderzahinder Posts: 996 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    I personally don't think FF and power coloring should be paid for at all, but I'm off in the mountains with that view.

    Given how many people apparently pay for absurd things like that, I guess PWE knows their market better than I do.
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  • thatcursedwolfthatcursedwolf Posts: 489 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    meedacthunist wrote: »
    Except when you are buying 5000 Zen ships they aren't sold with limited customisation, with less hull materials, or less model parts, depending from the account type.

    Yeah, everybody gets less hull materials and model parts on the Zen ships. Especially if you don't buy the 3 pack. Let's see, do I want my Andorian Kumari escort to look like an Andorian Kumari escort or an Andorian Kumari escort...
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  • jonsillsjonsills Posts: 6,334 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    You can't customize your power colors at all in STO. You want red beams? Get antiproton weapons. You want red phaser beams? Sorry, Charlie.
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  • meedacthunistmeedacthunist Posts: 2,967 Arc User1
    edited March 2014
    And?
    The point was - 5000 Zen purchase in STO does not has different functionality based on account type.

    Surely my post wasn't THAT difficult to grasp?
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  • thatcursedwolfthatcursedwolf Posts: 489 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    meedacthunist wrote: »
    And?
    The point was - 5000 Zen purchase in STO does not has different functionality based on account type.

    Surely my post wasn't THAT difficult to grasp?
    Well, it appears it was. :rolleyes:

    Apparently pointing out that 5000 Zen purchases in STO does not give anyone any choice is a difficult point to grasp.
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  • meedacthunistmeedacthunist Posts: 2,967 Arc User1
    edited March 2014
    thatcursedwolf wrote: »
    Apparently pointing out that 5000 Zen purchases in STO does not give anyone any choice is a difficult point to grasp.


    Yes, apparently it is. Because every ship in STO has the same number of options, right? Also, you aren't missing any parts from your ship in 5000 Z package. Andorian escort is Andorian escort and you are given more than one skin for Kumari. That all are specific Andorian, well... It is, after all, an Andorian ship. And even worse, because it is TV show "canon" one.
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  • championshewolfchampionshewolf Posts: 4,376 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Except those ships usually come with perks that no other starship can get. Such as saucer separation, fighter escort... or the mother of all p2w options, the scimitar.
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  • ariesmajorariesmajor Posts: 394 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    I agree with this post, especially since using pets you can't even change the outlook of them either, which would be nice especially since yeah....thats a 50 dollar investment.

    But at the same time I'm not sure cryptic would be on board.
  • thatcursedwolfthatcursedwolf Posts: 489 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    meedacthunist wrote: »
    Andorian escort is Andorian escort and you are given more than one skin for Kumari. That all are specific Andorian, well... It is, after all, an Andorian ship. And even worse, because it is TV show "canon" one.

    To have any options you have to have more than one ship in the package. If you just have just one you cannot modify the saucer, pylons, nacelles, or hull. If you have just one, that's all you get, that one specific look.
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  • r9xchaosr9xchaos Posts: 532
    edited March 2014
    Hey guys just some more thing to add here, i got myself the retail code for this game (( 30 Day Gold ))

    I OWN a Silver Freeform wich is available to me while am GOLD without converting it and now come the joke..


    I CANT change ALL colors with 1 click... instead of that i can change each color seperately (( as long as i am gold )) ..just wanted to add this info ...


    i changed all my colors seperately nnow to purple when i return to silver i hope it stays...but i still thik silvers should get an option to change colors...atleast for freeform slots .. or atleast as upgrade pack from zen store...
  • meedacthunistmeedacthunist Posts: 2,967 Arc User1
    edited March 2014
    thatcursedwolf wrote: »
    To have any options you have to have more than one ship in the package. If you just have just one you cannot modify the saucer, pylons, nacelles, or hull. If you have just one, that's all you get, that one specific look.

    I honestly don't care about single 2500 Zen ship purchases, with this example. If you are buying only a single ship, then limitations are pretty obvious and expected. And you are not spending 5000 Zen.
    r9xchaos wrote: »
    I CANT change ALL colors with 1 click... instead of that i can change each color seperately (( as long as i am gold ))
    That's because one-click color change for silver FF slots was disabled after it became clear that (initially) it was available with chat commands and reported (since there were concerns about silver accounts bypassing UI and using it for coloring their powers).
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  • roughbearmattachroughbearmattach Posts: 4,785 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    By the way, clicking "Change All" lets you recolor device VFX, too.

    The device stays recolored if unequipped and even given to another toon (like a vehicle).

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  • r9xchaosr9xchaos Posts: 532
    edited March 2014
    roughbearmattach wrote: »
    By the way, clicking "Change All" lets you recolor device VFX, too.

    The device stays recolored if unequipped and even given to another toon (like a vehicle).

    I love throwing out blue Incendiary Rounds on my Akema.


    yeah but that onyl works on GOLD ATs or GOLD Freeforms ..lol not on Silver Freeform on Gold Account oO
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