Ice Fairy - Ice Controller?

thewinxfairy · January 2014

Hey guys! ^.^

So I've been leveling my first FF, Glacia. She's my Ice Fairy inspired by Elsa from Frozen.

Currently I've been testing and trying to find a way to make an Ice Controller. I know I've seen someone running around with Ice Form and Manipulator. Is it possible to have a viable build?
I know that the only two holds are Ice Grenade and Ice Burst w/ Freeze Dirtbag, but what about the roots, like Ice Wall and Ice Cage, can they work with Manipulator?

Thanks!

flowcyto · January 2014

afaik, ice roots will not be increased in duration w/ Manipulator because they proc from a separate entity (the ice objects), though ice cage can proc the toggle easily. You could make an Ice build based around setting up ice cages and shattering them for some burst dmg. Its def not the most efficient dps build out there, but it could be fun to play around with. Bonus is you can interrupt pretty often w/ Ice Cage's adv.

Obv you wanna pickup ice burst w/ the freeze adv, ice cage w/ adv, wall of ice, ice form, and shatter just to fit the primary theme. Frost Breath w/ adv to guarantee chill is also nice to boost shatter dmg. Prob want to gear mostly for Int since Manipulator and MSA scale w/ it- also some Dex for crit to proc cold snap, and either Con for more health, Ego for more dmg, or Pres for more healing and hold duration.
For another hold that's kinda close to the theme and can proc Manipulator, Twister is prob the best fit.

The shatter theme can work for trash/aoe just fine, but for bosses you'd prob want to keep Ice Blast w/ Hard Frost around so you still have decent single-target dmg against chilled targets- still using Ice cage/shatter occasionally to keep manipulator up, and frost breath to re-apply chill.

A conventional frost dps build or a shatter build using Concentration and not going for hold/root strength would fare better overall since control is rather lackluster in this game. But the ice controller concept could work, to a degree.

superalfgorn · January 2014

I can suggest a build, also collecting the nice ideas from flowcyto, above.

Basically you can rely on Ice Form, crits and Ranged damage role for DPS.
The controller aspect is taken care of with PRE, its specs and Manipulator.
The key power, for AoE, and procs of the spec is Ice Burst with adv.; it takes care of everything (AoE, Paralyze, Ice objects). The tap of ice breath for auto-chill and then the creation of ice objects/shatter is going to be the routine for normal solo situations.
For bosses see the specs section below.

SS: PRE for hold strenght and the nice specs. DEX for crits to feed Ice Form and overall dps. REC for energy. INT would do as well, but in this case I prefer REC but it's up to you.

Talents: I buffed EGO for additional DPS, but I could see going for CON for survivability.

Specs: the group utility is all in the specs. PRE/Sentinel/Overseer make the paralyze from Ice Burst a killer move, heavily debuffing the Boss (Vulnerability, Wither/Trapped/Sentinel Mastery). Personal and group healing is done through Sentinel Aura and Mastery.

Notes:
-healing-wise I choose Conviction (triggeers MSA) that has a small AoE heal with the advantage.
-The challenging strikes in Frost Breath are very useful in solo situations. In some missions you need to get the attention of mobs to save the NPCs. In a group situation, where you do not get the attention of the mobs is a small debuff.

PowerHouse (Link to this build)

Name: Ice Fairy Manipulator

Archetype: Freeform

Super Stats:
Level 6: Presence (Primary)
Level 10: Dexterity (Secondary)
Level 15: Recovery (Secondary)

Talents:
Level 1: The Squall
Level 6: Survival Training
Level 9: Sniper Training
Level 12: Command Training
Level 15: Wordly
Level 18: Showmanship
Level 21: Shooter

Powers:
Level 1: Ice Shards
Level 1: Ice Blast (Rank 2, Hard Frost)
Level 6: Ice Form (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 8: Ice Burst (Rank 2, Freeze, Dirtbag)
Level 11: Manipulator
Level 14: Conviction (Rank 2, Reverence)
Level 17: Shatter (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 20: Frost Breath (Frost Bite, Challenging Strikes)
Level 23: Ice Cage (Sub-Zero Cellblock)
Level 26: Wall of Ice (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 29: Molecular Self-Assembly
Level 32: Force Shield (Force Sheathe)
Level 35: Ascension (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 38: Masterful Dodge

Travel Powers:
Level 6: Flight (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 35:

Specializations:
Presence: Dominion (2/2)
Presence: Grandeur (3/3)
Presence: Moment of Glory (1/3)
Presence: Force of Will (2/2)
Presence: Vulnerability (2/2)
Sentinel: Torment (2/2)
Sentinel: Eternal Spring (2/2)
Sentinel: Caregiver (1/3)
Sentinel: Sentinel Aura (3/3)
Sentinel: Wither (2/2)
Overseer: Administer (3/3)
Overseer: Ruthless (2/2)
Overseer: Impact (2/2)
Overseer: Trapped (3/3)
Mastery: Sentinel Mastery (1/1)

jonesing4 · January 2014

That build looks like an awful lot of fun! Anybody test it (or something similar) yet to see how well it works? Man, I need to start leveling some of my babies.

superalfgorn · January 2014

Heh since my last idea for a toon has been scrapped since Celestial Conduit does not work with Overdrive...

I will try it as my next build, since I proposed it. :biggrin:

thewinxfairy · January 2014

Hey! thanks for the help. I've been in the pts for a bit but also noticed that the control factor of ice isn't all that great, so I decided to go the damage route.

So here's a build I've been working on, and so far it has been great, especially since I am using an Ice Grenade. What do you folks think about this?

PowerHouse (Link to this build)

Name: Ice Fairy Glacia

Archetype: Freeform

Super Stats:
Level 6: Ego (Primary)
Level 10: Constitution (Secondary)
Level 15: Recovery (Secondary)

Talents:
Level 1: The Squall
Level 6: Enduring
Level 9: Indomitable
Level 12: Tireless
Level 15: Wordly
Level 18: Quick Recovery
Level 21: Ascetic

Powers:
Level 1: Ice Shards
Level 1: Ice Blast (Rank 2, Hard Frost)
Level 6: Ice Form (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 8: Hurricane (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 11: Concentration
Level 14: Overdrive
Level 17: Ice Shield (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 20: Circle of Primal Dominion (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 23: Avalanche (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 26: Masterful Dodge
Level 29: Palliate (Absolve)
Level 32: Ice Barrier (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 35: Ascension (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 38: Conviction

Travel Powers:
Level 6: Mystic Flight (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 35: Teleportation

Specializations:
Ego: Mental Endurance (3/3)
Ego: Force of Will (2/2)
Ego: Follow Through (2/3)
Ego: Sixth Sense (3/3)
Vindicator: Aggressive Stance (2/2)
Vindicator: Merciless (3/3)
Vindicator: Focused Strikes (2/3)
Vindicator: Mass Destruction (3/3)
Guardian: Fortified Gear (3/3)
Guardian: Ruthless (2/2)
Guardian: Find the Mark (2/3)
Guardian: The Best Defense (3/3)
Mastery: Ego Mastery (1/1)

Most things die quickly, but if they don't like in Gravitar or Warlord, I pop CoPD and alternate Ice Barrier and Masterful Dodge, as well as Ascension and Palliate for heals...

flowcyto · January 2014

Looks pretty good for a pure Ice dps build. Not really a controller anymore, but I can't blame ya for not sticking to that route.

superalfgorn · January 2014

Ok as far as the controller route goes it's a bit more complicated than expected.

As always you can blame Manipulator for not proccing as it should, specifically Ice Cage works (and basically you can go to 8 stacks ASAP), but Ice Burst does not

Also Ice Burst has a huge cooldown, so INT, at least as a SSS, is a must.

Finally, Ranged Damage Role + Offensive Passive is more than enough damage to compensate for Manipulator instead of Concentration. Of course the control-oriented specs will make you lose on survivability and damage overall, but for solo content the controller aspect is more than enough, while for group content the added bonuses from the specs should compensate in part.

Right now the support aspect is taking over the control one, at least at higher lvls... I should fit in a stun, but I cannot find something that's on-theme and good. Suggestions?

So.. the revised (leveling) build:

PowerHouse (Link to this build)

Name: Quartz Faber

Archetype: Freeform

Super Stats:
Level 6: Presence (Primary)
Level 10: Intelligence (Secondary)
Level 15: Dexterity (Secondary)

Talents:
Level 1: The Squall
Level 6: Survival Training
Level 9: Command Training
Level 12: Jack of All Trades
Level 15: Sniper Training
Level 18: Showmanship
Level 21: Shooter

Powers:
Level 1: Ice Shards
Level 1: Ice Blast (Rank 2, Hard Frost)
Level 6: Ice Form (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 8: Ice Cage (Sub-Zero Cellblock)
Level 11: Manipulator
Level 14: Ice Burst (Rank 2, Freeze, Dirtbag)
Level 17: Conviction (Rank 2, Reverence)
Level 20: Nanobot Swarm (Rank 2, Rejuvinating Injectors)
Level 23: Molecular Self-Assembly
Level 26: Ascension (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 29: Masterful Dodge
Level 32: Palliate (Rank 2, Absolve)
Level 35: Redemption (Rank 2, Salvation)
Level 38: Ice Shield

Travel Powers:
Level 6: Flight (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 35:

Specializations:
Presence: Dominion (2/2)
Presence: Grandeur (3/3)
Presence: Moment of Glory (1/3)
Presence: Force of Will (2/2)
Presence: Vulnerability (2/2)
Sentinel: Torment (2/2)
Sentinel: Eternal Spring (2/2)
Sentinel: Caregiver (1/3)
Sentinel: Sentinel Aura (3/3)
Sentinel: Wither (2/2)
Overseer: Administer (3/3)
Overseer: Ruthless (2/2)
Overseer: Impact (2/2)
Overseer: Trapped (3/3)
Mastery: Sentinel Mastery (1/1)

Ice Fairy - Ice Controller?

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