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circleofpsi#4619 circleofpsi
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edited December 2013 in Champions Online Discussion
Dear Perfect World Team


How long will this upcoming release of Arc be taking?. I'm asking this today because I want to star and try out the new game that I have't even touched before called STO.

However I'm too afraid that I will mess something up with my other game CO, and I whuold like to stay away from Arc as much as possible to the hate I have in such programs. I have noticed you bought up in a update of this Arc that players will have the choice to launch their games through the existing launchers, without Arc, are welcome to do so while we continue to iterate on the Arc Client.

However what I fail to understand is that why do I need to download Arc right now at this time in order to even download STO.

I'm wondering if your team or someone could link me to a page where I will not have to download Arc in order to play.

I will not accept..random links from people I do not kown and only a dev team, so don't try it people. Also please note this is a post in-order to get one of the devs to respond to me not an normal post so please re-frame from posting on here that has nothing to do with this topic.

Please and thank you



Sincerely,

Cryneting
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  • mrhinkypunkmrhinkypunk Posts: 1,569 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    http://store.steampowered.com/app/9900

    OOPS lol

    I don't understand how you expect any of the dev team to even find this let alone care to help you find a place to download STO where you don't need to download ARC. You'll just have to be more trusting of people.
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  • circleofpsi#4619 circleofpsi
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    edited December 2013
    mrhinkypunk wrote: »
    http://store.steampowered.com/app/9900

    OOPS lol

    I don't understand how you expect any of the dev team to even find this let alone care to help you find a place to download STO where you don't need to download ARC. You'll just have to be more trusting of people.



    I'm going to kill you :3

    But yeah I don;t like using steam for such games. but thanks anways
    Psi.
  • jonsillsjonsills Posts: 6,318 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    As I understand it, the current setup requires that you have either Steam or Arc to download any PWE games, including CO and STO. I had both of them back when we were still under frigging Atari, so I can't verify - but my roommate's been making noises about getting me a new laptop for Christmas, so I might be finding out soon.

    (Apparently, he's tired of hearing me cursing when the particle effects slow my graphics processor to a crawl...)
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  • aetam1aetam1 Posts: 228 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    You can use steam to download STO and afterwards play STO without steam. If you launch STO directly it will not start steam, it will not care if steam is running, maybe it wont even care if you deinstall steam, never tried that.

    Just go to your steam folder after downloading it and launch STO directly.
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  • thatcursedwolfthatcursedwolf Posts: 484 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Do the installers from the discs still work?

    I recently migrated drives and ended up having to go through Arc and then moving folders around for Steam (which has been working much much more reliably than Arc). I didn't even think of re-installing from the discs to get the old launcher back until I had gotten the Steam installs up and running.

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  • iceih03iceih03 Posts: 204 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    cryneting wrote: »
    ... I whuold like to stay away from Arc as much as possible ...

    If you are playing CO without Arc nor Steam, I ll guess you are using the old launcher (as I do), well if so, there is an option to link all Cryptic games to the CO launcher, you choose the game in the same combo you choose between Live/PST, and any of the 3 games will be patched/launched from CO launcher. I m at work atm so I can not check the exact option, but you should find it just in the launcher options.
    jonsills wrote: »
    As I understand it, the current setup requires that you have either Steam or Arc to download any PWE games, including CO and STO. I had both of them back when we were still under frigging Atari, so I can't verify - but my roommate's been making noises about getting me a new laptop for Christmas, so I might be finding out soon.

    (Apparently, he's tired of hearing me cursing when the particle effects slow my graphics processor to a crawl...)

    If you copy the Cryptic Studios folder to the new computer you do not need to download the game and you ll continue using the old launcher, of course you ll need to manually create the shortcut but it ll save a lot of downloading time.
    When you copy the game respect the same path, in my PC is something like d:\program files\cryptic... in the new computer use the same path you are using now.
  • nephtnepht Posts: 6,883 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    cryneting wrote: »
    Dear Perfect World Team


    How long will this upcoming release of Arc be taking?. I'm asking this today because I want to star and try out the new game that I have't even touched before called STO.

    However I'm too afraid that I will mess something up with my other game CO, and I whuold like to stay away from Arc as much as possible to the hate I have in such programs. I have noticed you bought up in a update of this Arc that players will have the choice to launch their games through the existing launchers, without Arc, are welcome to do so while we continue to iterate on the Arc Client.

    However what I fail to understand is that why do I need to download Arc right now at this time in order to even download STO.

    I'm wondering if your team or someone could link me to a page where I will not have to download Arc in order to play.

    I will not accept..random links from people I do not kown and only a dev team, so don't try it people. Also please note this is a post in-order to get one of the devs to respond to me not an normal post so please re-frame from posting on here that has nothing to do with this topic.

    Please and thank you



    Sincerely,

    Cryneting

    Wrong forums pal, try STO forums , also your attitude sorta sucks :I

    Sincerely,

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  • circleofpsi#4619 circleofpsi
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    edited December 2013
    Is there something your trying to tell me Nepht. or are you those typical people who hates seening attitude and goes crying about it? No offence of course.
    Psi.
  • circleofpsi#4619 circleofpsi
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    edited December 2013
    iceih03 wrote: »
    If you are playing CO without Arc nor Steam, I ll guess you are using the old launcher (as I do), well if so, there is an option to link all Cryptic games to the CO launcher, you choose the game in the same combo you choose between Live/PST, and any of the 3 games will be patched/launched from CO launcher. I m at work atm so I can not check the exact option, but you should find it just in the launcher options.



    If you copy the Cryptic Studios folder to the new computer you do not need to download the game and you ll continue using the old launcher, of course you ll need to manually create the shortcut but it ll save a lot of downloading time.
    When you copy the game respect the same path, in my PC is something like d:\program files\cryptic... in the new computer use the same path you are using now.


    wait so all I need to do is click "show all games" and it will just install that way?. Sweet thanks Icehi03!
    Psi.
  • chaelkchaelk Posts: 7,732 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    I had to reinstall CO after upgradng windows.

    I installed it then deleted arc, then created a desktop link for the game.

    and Nepht is actually correct, rudely done but correct.
    Look for the ARC forum threads on STO. A lot of people asked for the files to install it without and several people posted links. You'll just have to read through the ARC thread to find it.

    try this one or try under technical problems

    http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=895781
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  • flyingfinnflyingfinn Posts: 8,408 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Well, in the future, it's going to be just ARC to launch and patch all the games after the removal of Game Lauchers. And maybe thru Steam also. Maybe.
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  • trailturtletrailturtle Posts: 5,496 Perfect World Employee
    edited December 2013
    cryneting wrote: »
    However I'm too afraid that I will mess something up with my other game CO, and I whuold like to stay away from Arc as much as possible to the hate I have in such programs. I have noticed you bought up in a update of this Arc that players will have the choice to launch their games through the existing launchers, without Arc, are welcome to do so while we continue to iterate on the Arc Client.

    However what I fail to understand is that why do I need to download Arc right now at this time in order to even download STO.

    I'm wondering if your team or someone could link me to a page where I will not have to download Arc in order to play.

    Arc will not cause a disruption in playing. New installations go through Arc because it allows us to put more social tools in your hand and better functionality, and as we continue to improve Arc, it'll keep getting better. Currently, for Cryptic games, you can only install them through Arc or Steam.

    Hope that helps. :smile:
  • nephtnepht Posts: 6,883 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    cryneting wrote: »
    Is there something your trying to tell me Nepht. or are you those typical people who hates seening attitude and goes crying about it? No offence of course.

    I personally to tend to stay off fences as the pointy bits tend to stab you up the butt.
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  • iceih03iceih03 Posts: 204 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    cryneting wrote: »
    wait so all I need to do is click "show all games" and it will just install that way?. Sweet thanks Icehi03!

    Exactly! before typing your user/password click on options then "show all games".
    You are welcome.
  • voyagersixvoyagersix Posts: 232 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    trailturtle wrote: »
    ...it allows us to put more social tools in your hand and better functionality...

    I don't need or want more social tools in my hands or shoved down my throat. So if there's nothing in it for me, what's in it for PWE? That's who it's really for.
  • cyronecyrone Posts: 1,028 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    trailturtle wrote: »
    Arc will not cause a disruption in playing. New installations go through Arc because it allows us to put more social tools in your hand and better functionality, and as we continue to improve Arc, it'll keep getting better. Currently, for Cryptic games, you can only install them through Arc or Steam.

    Hope that helps. :smile:

    Glad I had my game installed before Arc and Steam. I don't like Arc and I don't use Steam *too* much. Only when Starbound has a grasp at my throat and is forcing me to look at the screen. :tongue:
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  • chaelkchaelk Posts: 7,732 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    trailturtle wrote: »
    Arc will not cause a disruption in playing. New installations go through Arc because it allows us to put more social tools in your hand and better functionality, and as we continue to improve Arc, it'll keep getting better. Currently, for Cryptic games, you can only install them through Arc or Steam.

    Hope that helps. :smile:

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  • circleofpsi#4619 circleofpsi
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    edited December 2013
    trailturtle wrote: »
    Arc will not cause a disruption in playing. New installations go through Arc because it allows us to put more social tools in your hand and better functionality, and as we continue to improve Arc, it'll keep getting better. Currently, for Cryptic games, you can only install them through Arc or Steam.

    Hope that helps. :smile:



    Thank you so much TT was't expecting you to respond to such. very geartful thanks!
    Psi.
  • circleofpsi#4619 circleofpsi
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    edited December 2013
    nepht wrote: »
    I personally to tend to stay off fences as the pointy bits tend to stab you up the butt.



    Fine....but only because your a cute kitty...:tongue:
    Psi.
  • circleofpsi#4619 circleofpsi
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    edited December 2013
    iceih03 wrote: »
    Exactly! before typing your user/password click on options then "show all games".
    You are welcome.



    Thanks! wish I could give you more then words :D

    Telling by your epic image Im going to take a gess that your female so :wink:
    Psi.
  • wingedkagoutiwingedkagouti Posts: 565 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    trailturtle wrote: »
    Arc will not cause a disruption in playing. New installations go through Arc because it allows us to put more social tools in your hand
    How I wish this trend would just die. I know it won't happen, but it's Christmas time and my birthday was yesterday so I'm entitled to some wishing dammit.
  • chaelkchaelk Posts: 7,732 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    adn if we have NO interest in the social tools while playing?
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  • tasittlertasittler Posts: 40 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    chaelk wrote: »
    I've installed NW twice with ARc, both times it comes with errors which make the game unplayeable. something to do with Nvidia drivers

    Well that's a bit depressing, i just subbed and have an NVidia card. If it comes down to it, it's cheaper to unsub than buy a new video card unfortunately. Which doubly sucks since I'm recently returning and have a chance to give CO some money this time around.
  • roughbearmattachroughbearmattach Posts: 4,784 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Is it impossible to just download and play the game now? Do users have to go through a third party?
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  • thatcursedwolfthatcursedwolf Posts: 484 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    tasittler wrote: »
    Well that's a bit depressing, i just subbed and have an NVidia card. If it comes down to it, it's cheaper to unsub than buy a new video card unfortunately. Which doubly sucks since I'm recently returning and have a chance to give CO some money this time around.

    The Steam install have been problem free for me so far.

    The Arc installs would need the game (CO, STO, and NWO, happened on all of them) fired up once, wait for it to hang, kill the process, then I could start it and have it work fine for the rest of the time my computer was awake.

    I've got an integrated NVidia card.

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  • nazacanazaca Posts: 183 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    roughbearmattach wrote: »
    Is it impossible to just download and play the game now? Do users have to go through a third party?

    Steam/Valve is third-party. ARC isn't; ARC is a PWE user-management tool being applied to PWE's games such as CO, STO, etc, etc, etc ...
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  • tasittlertasittler Posts: 40 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    thatcursedwolf wrote: »
    The Steam install have been problem free for me so far.

    The Arc installs would need the game (CO, STO, and NWO, happened on all of them) fired up once, wait for it to hang, kill the process, then I could start it and have it work fine for the rest of the time my computer was awake.

    I've got an integrated NVidia card.

    The one downside to Steam is buying Zen through the Steam Wallet is way too easy.

    Thankfully I used Steam to originally install and did so again so no issues atm. Appreciate the info for the future.
  • r9xchaosr9xchaos Posts: 533
    edited December 2013
    cryneting wrote: »
    Dear Perfect World Team


    How long will this upcoming release of Arc be taking?. I'm asking this today because I want to star and try out the new game that I have't even touched before called STO.
    Cryneting


    ive 6 maxed chars on STO...the game is kind of fun.. but only when you can delete the memory of champions in your mind..lol


    STO is same engienas champions but crippled... movements is slow and customization level is almost zero... no free costume unlocks from perks(( wich is why i bought them all)).. everything is pay/lockbxed except for missions...


    but you can roleplay there good.. if you find the right people
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