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Has damage resist debuff mechanics changed?
monsterdaddy
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I've been finding consistently lower damage crit spikes on certain builds of mine that use a lot damage resist debuffs - penetration, shredded, depleted uranium core. I wonder if Cryptic changed the debuff mechanics, i.e. there are no longer any negative damage resist numbers. Anyone else see this in game? Thanks.
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Edit: Severity was altered though, it seems to be diminishing at high values, which might be why you're seeing lower numbers.
Are you saying the Severity percent is no longer accurate. That's a massive change. How far off have you seen it?
Severity changes hit with the crit changes, and to my knowledge were intended. Guess I haven't been paying attention to my logs as closely as I should.
Edit: Tried with Dragon Claws on a 117% severity character, so the severity should be at 167% on a crit. Crit hits were acting at roughly 135% severity.
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Some people seemed not to take it seriously, lol
Damage Strength Debuff's have been altered significantly, the thread also lists a number of other bugs.
AFAIK, this isn't intended and is being investigated by the Developers.
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Avoidance should be fine, it hits a hard DR at about 90%.
Could any of this be due to offense now being on the same layer as severity?
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As far as I can tell, there's nothing wrong with severity. I compared non-crit vs. crit hits and in every case, the average difference matched the crit severity.
So I started looking at the damage resist debuffs by comparing tooltip damage to results. I couldn't find anything wrong with any one of them and combining several debuffs seemed to work fine too. Combining them all however was a problem, I seemed to have lost about 20% in dmg res debuffs out of a total of 59% in debuffs.
That 20% seems about right vs. pre patch numbers, i.e. Scarab would do 29K Reaper's Embrace, now the max is about 23K.
Doesn't seem to be a hard cap, I mixed up the combos and taking away one seemed to reduce the dmg. So not really sure what is happening.
P.S. After testing, I am pretty sure the regular dummies have 10% dmg resist and the Regen ones have 20% but I'd love independent confirmation.
I think debuffs are working fine. I tried against a regular test dummy, my debuffs are as followed:
15% from a DUC (DUC cannot dip into the negative)
10% from Expose Weakness
30% from Firesnake
12% from Defile
Log is telling me I'm running at 49.5% -res.
DUC knocks the training dummy to 0 res and 5% of it cannot be used. The rest of the debuffs should drop him to -52% resistance. Considering there are decimals and whatnot at play, this seems fine.
Against a regen dummy, same debuffs. Log is telling me I'm at 29.7%. This might be where your tests are being thrown as the regen dummies appear to follow debuff resistance like normal high ranking entities do. They give you a slightly more accurate view of what to expect.
Tried again this time just running Expose Weakness and DUC, log is telling me I'm at 4.5% -res. This seems accurate, 15% from DUC, 10% from EW.
Added Defile into the mix, now the log says 13% -res. So we start to see DR hit when you're at about 25% -res. This is normal for high end targets.
Edit: Just for shiggles I tried running with a -200% debuff, log is telling me I'm at -30%. That implies that the lowest you can drop a Supervillain+ ranked target is 30% into the negative.
Critical Severity is definitely hitting DR. Recheck your logs as I tried testing with 8% offense and 18% offense, my results did not vary. My high severity characters are operating at a much lower severity. It seems to be hitting a sharp DR around 100%.
This is a snippet from a character with 117% sev and running -10% resistance on a regen dummy. Base magnitude represents the hit before resistances are taken into account. Magnitude shows the actual damage. Take a look at the base magnitude on the crit and noncrit. Based on the noncrit, my crits should be around 1790.
All my testing was on a 17 Offense toon so I have no data on high Offense toons but I believe your numbers.
Offense is on the same layer as severity, what happens when you remove your offense bonus from your damage then multiply by your severity and then add the offense bonus back in? Does it match your actual crit damage?
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I was a bit mistaken (thanks Isometry for pointing this out!), severity rating is suffering diminishing returns (or the curve was changed). ie if I just pick flat severity boosts (like most of the ones granted by specs) my damage reflects my severity. However if I take Dexterity Mastery, I get about 3% severity from it as opposed to the 17% or so it claims to give on my character sheet.
Guess I'll go slash some dummies and see for myself ASAP. I'm no expert on damage calculation mechanics though, so further confirmation would be appreciated.