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drgmstrdrgmstr Posts: 886 Arc User
edited October 2013 in Suggestions Box
So I had this idea come to mind while I was roaming around Caprice. I may not be the only one who thought of this and may have been suggested before. As a RPer I find myself putting some people on ignore for trolling, god modding, or just plain right out dislike the character and how they act. That comes to a point why should I ignore the account when I just want to ignore the character instead?

I had an idea that to change the ignore feature that adds a 'Ignore Character' function. Simply have it when you right click the avatar, the Ignore button really functions as a Ignore Character. If you wish to add the account to the ignore, just go to the Ignored window and only type in the handle.



A easy feature yes? No? Maybe so?

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  • spinnytopspinnytop Posts: 16,450 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    I only have one question. Why?


    After all, it's not the character engaging in the behavior that's annoying you... it's the player controlling the character.
  • drgmstrdrgmstr Posts: 886 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Let me give an example of what I mean: Player 1 has toon A and B. Toon A is a total jerk and rather avoid being around them to the point you don't want to see them talk at all. Toon B is much more pleasant, a kind person and everyone loves them. Would you rather ignore A or B or both? Because right now the only option we have when ignoring is all of the above. As a Roleplayer I don't hate the player (excluding trolls and those who rather god mod for a living), I hate the character and I rather ignore individual characters than a whole account.

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  • flyingfinnflyingfinn Posts: 8,408 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    *ignores everyone and declares self as King Of The World!!!*
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  • nextnametakennextnametaken Posts: 2,212 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    I want a "Trade Spam" list in addition to the ignore list.
    Zone chat traders are scum.
  • spinnytopspinnytop Posts: 16,450 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    drgmstr wrote: »
    Let me give an example of what I mean: Player 1 has toon A and B. Toon A is a total jerk and rather avoid being around them to the point you don't want to see them talk at all. Toon B is much more pleasant, a kind person and everyone loves them. Would you rather ignore A or B or both? Because right now the only option we have when ignoring is all of the above. As a Roleplayer I don't hate the player (excluding trolls and those who rather god mod for a living), I hate the character and I rather ignore individual characters than a whole account.

    You sound like a crazy person now :|
  • theravenforcetheravenforce Posts: 7,139 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    drgmstr wrote: »
    Let me give an example of what I mean: Player 1 has toon A and B. Toon A is a total jerk and rather avoid being around them to the point you don't want to see them talk at all. Toon B is much more pleasant, a kind person and everyone loves them. Would you rather ignore A or B or both? Because right now the only option we have when ignoring is all of the above. As a Roleplayer I don't hate the player (excluding trolls and those who rather god mod for a living), I hate the character and I rather ignore individual characters than a whole account.

    I understand what you are getting at but I don't think ignore functions can actually work that way to be character specific..

    I guess one way you could emulate this is to simply ignore that person when on the annoying toon?
  • m1ndfr1km1ndfr1k Posts: 173 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    yes and add an option to ban all rp in zone chat then.
  • crypticbuxomcrypticbuxom Posts: 4,621 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Anyone who don't like it when players use Zone for business, including trade, is the real scum we should worry about.
  • drgmstrdrgmstr Posts: 886 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    spinnytop wrote: »
    You sound like a crazy person now :|

    Just to clarify something is all I was doing because you asked me 'Why?'.
    I understand what you are getting at but I don't think ignore functions can actually work that way to be character specific..

    I guess one way you could emulate this is to simply ignore that person when on the annoying toon?

    While it is a simple solution to simply ignore them (as in don't read what they say, not using the ignore button), was just throwing this out to see what others might think of it. I talked it over with a few of my friends and they thought it was a good idea. But hey, not everything is the best idea. All I can say is I do wish the ignore/report spam does get a tune up.

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  • flamingbunnymanflamingbunnyman Posts: 2,035 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    In City of Heroes, the ignore feature was originally character-specific. When someone was harassing you, if you /ignored them, they just switched to a different character and carried on. People begged for a global ignore for years.

    Eventually, a global ignore was added. It was separate from the character based one, and occasionally caused weird things to happen when you had a character on one list but not the other, like ignored people still being able to talk to you through certain channels, or non-ignored people not being able to talk to you. Eventually, they eliminated the character-specific ignore, and made the /ignore command an alias for /gignore.

    To my knowledge, nobody ever asked for the character specific ignore to be reinstated. I honestly can't see any reason to do so. If the person is so bad I want to /ignore them, then I will do so. If the person only acts that way when RPing a specific character, then I would just stop paying attention to them. Or, since most RP seems to be done in /team or /local, I'd either leave the team or walk away: Both far more in-character options than somehow magically muting that person.
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  • spinnytopspinnytop Posts: 16,450 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    They can "tune up" the ignore function after they figure out how to stop it from turning me into the Chat Ban police when I don't want it to :|
  • cybersoldier1981cybersoldier1981 Posts: 2,501 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    I like you. But be warned, this is going to hurt.

    There was a time when 'ignoring' someone meant you didn't need to click a button. Try it.

    Now, when it comes to ignoring a character, rather than the player- then you probably shouldn't RP. You're going to encounter characters you don't like, and when you put yourself in a social situation you have to accept that not everyone is going to meet your socially friendly standards. People play how they want. Some people take it too far. I get it.

    This is where you, IC, walk away. Or you ask them to walk away. Wanting someone ignored because they aren't RPing the way you want them to is petulant.

    You're in a social setting. Deal with the fact that not everyone is going to play a 'pleasant' character. I don't play a pleasant character- but that's because I'm trying to play a reasonable person in a community full of demon-god-ninja-sorcerer-wolves, anti-gun heroes who see no problem bludgeoning someone for theft, Vampires that hypno-sex (RAEP) women, and Mesbians that act like all the girls who've rejected the player. Play a guy who wants to sit back and have a beer surrounded by these morons, and see if you don't end up with a bitter character.

    I've been put on ignore because my character didn't fawn over some 'girl' with epic boobie sliders. I've been placed on ignore because someone was trying to tentacle raep someone in the club and he intervened. I've been put on ignore because I simply dislike it when mindless dolts with barely-literate skills try to force their crap on others and show no respect for other players and the setting.

    RPers are a whiny, self-entitled lot. Many of them don't have any grasp on reality and I shudder to imagine what they are like away from the game.
  • spinnytopspinnytop Posts: 16,450 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    I like you. But be warned, this is going to hurt.

    There was a time when 'ignoring' someone meant you didn't need to click a button. Try it.

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    RPers are a whiny, self-entitled lot. Many of them don't have any grasp on reality and I shudder to imagine what they are like away from the game.

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  • drgmstrdrgmstr Posts: 886 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    spinnytop wrote: »
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    You don't have to remind everyone that 99% of suggestions are 'derailed'.

    To Cyber: While I do the same by simply walking away, ICly and both OOC there is a time where I say to myself: Can I just stay in one spot and enjoy a good RP without having someone come up and ruin it? And I know the answer is always be no. I only suggested this idea because there are a few people out there that I have seen who would play a toon I rather not see, yet see the handle later on and play another toon decently.

    Again just a idea I threw out there and now this can go join the depths of the forums never to see the light of day.

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  • bwdaresbwdares Posts: 1,517 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    drgmstr wrote: »
    I say to myself: Can I just stay in one spot and enjoy a good RP without having someone come up and ruin it? And I know the answer is always be no. I only suggested this idea because there are a few people out there that I have seen who would play a toon I rather not see, yet see the handle later on and play another toon decently.

    Umm, there is such a place that you can get such RP. They are hideouts. You can invite people who you want and not get interupted, unless you invite it, and have a really fun time.

    That came out much more snarky then I wanted.

    Cyber: I agree with what you said about RPers, minus those in my supergroup, but that is because we take a more responsible route when it comes to our RP. Which is rare.
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  • spinnytopspinnytop Posts: 16,450 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    drgmstr wrote: »
    You don't have to remind everyone that 99% of suggestions are 'derailed'.

    I'm not. I'm making an observation about how drastically that one post became derailed from beginning to end. It started out as "If you're trying to ignore characters, then you're roleplaying wrong" and ended at "role players are a bunch of bastards" lol.

    I thought it was funny.
  • cybersoldier1981cybersoldier1981 Posts: 2,501 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    drgmstr wrote: »
    To Cyber: While I do the same by simply walking away, ICly and both OOC there is a time where I say to myself: Can I just stay in one spot and enjoy a good RP without having someone come up and ruin it? And I know the answer is always be no. I only suggested this idea because there are a few people out there that I have seen who would play a toon I rather not see, yet see the handle later on and play another toon decently.

    Again just a idea I threw out there and now this can go join the depths of the forums never to see the light of day.

    Short answer, then:

    That same person being a douchebag on Captain Colostomy Bag is going to be a douchebag on Pooperman, too. I don't care what people say, characters are not autonomous beings that we, the players, cannot control. We have full responsibility for their actions. If someone's playing a -CHARACTER- you don't like, then that's... well, you can either deal with it or... just not RP.
    spinnytop wrote: »
    I'm not. I'm making an observation about how drastically that one post became derailed from beginning to end. It started out as "If you're trying to ignore characters, then you're roleplaying wrong" and ended at "role players are a bunch of bastards" lol.

    I thought it was funny.

    Actually, it wasn't derailed. Roleplayers are a whiny lot. Now, Drgn is actually a cool cat, if he's the guy I'm thinking of in game. But roleplayers tend to have a problem with someone playing something they don't like, and they're quite vocal about it. But part of what a lot of Roleplayers fail to grasp is that this is a social setting, and some people play bastards. You mix Dr. House and Gray's Anatomy, throw in a Dexter, and this is what you get. Clashes of personalities. A lot of players don't like it when others don't accommodate them and 'play it right'. So they silence them.

    Yes. I've actually been placed on ignore because my Character is a Second-Amendment supporter and carries a firearm. I've been placed on ignore by a certain 'always naked' character because my character asked them to put some clothes on, and she didn't want negative attention (rather, 'she' didn't want male attention at all). I got put on ignore and chatbanned because I didn't play along with a certain SG's 'assassination without consequences' in public.

    This is an example of how petulant and whiny they can be.

    If you can't handle roleplaying without having to silence someone, you might need to step away and recalibrate. Sure, it's fine if the PLAYER is harassing you or whatever. But just wanting someone muted because you don't like their character isn't good RP.

    Someone plays someone I don't like? In character, I let them know it. Or I walk away. Or I just overlook it.
  • spinnytopspinnytop Posts: 16,450 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Rather than asking the devs to put in the work to add a new ignore feature, instead be willing to put in the work of putting people on ignore and then taking them off ignore later. Your workload will be infinitely lighter than theirs.

    Your suggestion sucks and your face is made of butts >:(
  • cybersoldier1981cybersoldier1981 Posts: 2,501 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    spinnytop wrote: »
    Rather than asking the devs to put in the work to add a new ignore feature, instead be willing to put in the work of putting people on ignore and then taking them off ignore later. Your workload will be infinitely lighter than theirs.

    Your suggestion sucks and your face is made of butts >:(

    Actually, hold the phone- I agree with you, with a caveat:

    The entire ignore function needs to get an overhaul. No player should be silenced. Just because people don't like what you say, doesn't mean you should be unable to use the chat feature for 24 hours. This system's been abused WAY too much, and simply 'not liking their RP' shouldn't end up with them being unable to function for 24 hours.
  • spinnytopspinnytop Posts: 16,450 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Actually, it wasn't derailed. Roleplayers are a whiny lot. Now, Drgn is actually a cool cat, if he's the guy I'm thinking of in game. But roleplayers tend to have a problem with someone playing something they don't like, and they're quite vocal about it. But part of what a lot of Roleplayers fail to grasp is that this is a social setting, and some people play bastards. You mix Dr. House and Gray's Anatomy, throw in a Dexter, and this is what you get. Clashes of personalities. A lot of players don't like it when others don't accommodate them and 'play it right'. So they silence them.

    Yes. I've actually been placed on ignore because my Character is a Second-Amendment supporter and carries a firearm. I've been placed on ignore by a certain 'always naked' character because my character asked them to put some clothes on, and she didn't want negative attention (rather, 'she' didn't want male attention at all). I got put on ignore and chatbanned because I didn't play along with a certain SG's 'assassination without consequences' in public.

    This is an example of how petulant and whiny they can be.

    If you can't handle roleplaying without having to silence someone, you might need to step away and recalibrate. Sure, it's fine if the PLAYER is harassing you or whatever. But just wanting someone muted because you don't like their character isn't good RP.

    Someone plays someone I don't like? In character, I let them know it. Or I walk away. Or I just overlook it.

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    You did it again :P You're like my friend who starts talking about how much he likes french fries and a minute later it's turned into a rant about civil rights in foreign countries.
  • drgmstrdrgmstr Posts: 886 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    spinnytop wrote: »
    Rather than asking the devs to put in the work to add a new ignore feature, instead be willing to put in the work of putting people on ignore and then taking them off ignore later. Your workload will be infinitely lighter than theirs.

    Your suggestion sucks and your face is made of butts >:(
    Actually, hold the phone- I agree with you, with a caveat:

    The entire ignore function needs to get an overhaul. No player should be silenced. Just because people don't like what you say, doesn't mean you should be unable to use the chat feature for 24 hours. This system's been abused WAY too much, and simply 'not liking their RP' shouldn't end up with them being unable to function for 24 hours.

    Now see this is what I as trying to get through. Something new or a fix to the ignore. Or simply remove it entirely. Not saying as you can see my suggestion is perfect in any way, at least we are throwing out some ideas for CN. Because lets face it, the "working as intended" comments is starting to get old and annoying.

    And yes Cyber I am that certain cat you see :tongue:

    And you guys can know even though a suggestion looks good to a handful on paper, it takes the community to make it perfect. This is just one of those I thought of in 5 minutes without thinking of everything else in the long run.

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  • spinnytopspinnytop Posts: 16,450 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    drgmstr wrote: »
    Because lets face it, the "working as intended" comments is starting to get old and annoying.

    That's the problem though. As it turns out, it's not "working as intended" comments that are the worst part here... it's the fact that the devs said "we'd like to but we can't".
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