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So...My theory is correct.
I made a post not long ago in Flare's Costume contest stating that people should just back out.
So I ran a test. I did something I would not normally do, and while I can't name names, I have been keeping a journal of winners of CC's.
I won't mention the names, but I will say something fishy is going on. Prizes are easy if you give them back, or if they are recycled.
Although I said I would never attend again, I have been, Going to everyone, in the worst damn thing I could create as to not win.
What I have found is the same @
names win all the time. Now if they were brilliant costume designers I would say ok...but they aint. Second, there is a super group. The extinguished group of women and men folk, that dominate. Often with the same @
addresses.
Don't bother folks. It is a hoax. I have been recording the winners. 2 people chosen are different people, and the rest are the same.
Save your time and run quests or PVP, or RP even, but do not waste your time entering these contests.
If I could post names and results I would...But I know the forum rules and you really can't do that, so I wont.
Again...this was a test to prove the hosts are recycling G to host events.
I made a post not long ago in Flare's Costume contest stating that people should just back out.
So I ran a test. I did something I would not normally do, and while I can't name names, I have been keeping a journal of winners of CC's.
I won't mention the names, but I will say something fishy is going on. Prizes are easy if you give them back, or if they are recycled.
Although I said I would never attend again, I have been, Going to everyone, in the worst damn thing I could create as to not win.
What I have found is the same @
names win all the time. Now if they were brilliant costume designers I would say ok...but they aint. Second, there is a super group. The extinguished group of women and men folk, that dominate. Often with the same @
addresses.
Don't bother folks. It is a hoax. I have been recording the winners. 2 people chosen are different people, and the rest are the same.
Save your time and run quests or PVP, or RP even, but do not waste your time entering these contests.
If I could post names and results I would...But I know the forum rules and you really can't do that, so I wont.
Again...this was a test to prove the hosts are recycling G to host events.
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Why bother dragging the whole SG there just to 'trade' the same 50g back and forth every week? It would serve no purpose to 'fix' the outcome.
Personally, I have won a few CC. I barely know anyone in game (I just came back in June), let alone the CC hosting SGs. Sometimes it can be disappointing when you see a winner that YOU feel is not up to par, but for the most part, the winners are really good.
As far as the SG you mention, my interaction with them has always been positive, fun and encouraging. Even offering positive tips on how to improve or add to my customs.
Have my "winnings" been just a ruse to direct peoples eyes away from the true plot that stews in these sinister minds for world domination?
Is there a something going on under those bright squares, that so many innocent people stand on? Are they secretly infiltrating in our minds, in our imagination and sucking out the very essence that this game thrives on. Our costumes...
Who is hiding behind the curtains of evil? Who is pulling the strings? Who controls the hotdog sellers in Millennium City?
Who?
WHO?!
WHO?!!
Are we even real?
Or is this just fantasy?
We must stop this.
I have a cunning plan. We must gather and form a secret underground rebellion.
We must be brave and go to these gatherings of evilness, these powwows of madness only dressed in our underware! Pink underware.
Let's see how they deal with that!
Did i say underware. Yes. Yes i did.
Let us pick this name 'UNDERWARE' as our secret name of the underground rebellion.
Viva la Revolucion!
DOWN WITH PANTS!!!
And i pick 'BigBadMomma' as my callsign.
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Finn, were you there when I was "The Boss Just Took Off His Pants"? (He won.)
See, I'm not a monster...I'm just ahead of the curve. And I'll happily drop trou with you.
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I often observe as well, to see winning costumes, but I don't keep track winners' names.
But I want to ask, Hexsing, you keep track of winners, but do you note the losers too?
Because I noticed the frequent winners don't have the best winning percentages.
They just enter. A LOT. Like every CC. So they do win a lot, but lose even more.
(IMHO, an observe really notes only the winners, they just are more noticeable.)
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So I'm observing similar things to you, but I see a very different trend.
It's not bias. It's experience.
By entering a lot, these frequent winners learn a lot.
They also judge, so they have the experience on what judges look for.
Then within their SG, they do a lot of peer critique, so they actually share experience.
If there was a secret, it's that these guys always learn, win or lose...then they improve.
(Even after they win, they run backstage, to further tweak their costumes.)
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Now, although we shouldn't stop people from improving, how can we make this more fair?
Like if we really wanted to make experience irrelevant, give newcomers a chance.
The solution is: make new contest categories, so past experience has less effect.
But that's something judges already do, so I think it evens out quite nicely.
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More seriously tho.... honestly I don't see any sort of hoax or stuff. Just talented people with good costumes. Most of the time I just attend CCs just to inspire myself for a new costume (which hasn't happened as of late =( ), or just have a good time.
I am curious if I am on that list =p, not so long ago had a winning streak lol.
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I allways knew there is some prime evil megalodon lurking behind those googly eyes.
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pfft, you win all the time so we KNOW you're part of the CC conspiracy!
You're a lunatic with a mad man's dream of a milk proof robot!
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...you need to realize that the winners are being chosen based on our (the judges) likes and dislikes.
Just because you do not believe the winners of the contest had a good enough costume does not mean that the judges should feel the same way.
It's all about opinion...and in the case of costume contests...it's the judge's opinion that counts.
So not only are the contests very legit...but the person(s) who sets them up goes through a lot of work putting them together so that everyone can have a fun time.
Please do not let the OP discourage you from enjoying these events.
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In fact, not just that - I sometimes go out of my way to make sure that not all of my winners come from the same group, just to reduce the probability of an accusation like this from arising. Anyone who wants to complain that my winners are too diverse in selection are welcome to do so.
I could go on about people's differences in what they find appealing. But frankly, it's a waste of my time. This is an obvious troll who didn't win at a CC and had his feelings hurt. If you can't handle it in a freakin' video game, the real world is gonna eat you alive, kid.
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I have other comments but I'd rather not go into them.
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That time is gone though, and the tests I have made are far more disturbing than the usual 'it's rigged' argument.
I'll log R.H.I.N.O., and win a fair amount of prizes, it's a simple, enough mechanized Rhino with boxing gloves and good overall synergy and a steampunk look.
I'll log Riftwalker and hopelessly try to win one because... Well because I love that character design along with every single detail, I want to show it to the rest of the world! But most of the time the people thinking the same thing are next to me and not in the middle of the theater. I'd eventually continue to try because I get quite alot of encouraging PM's but I tend to suggest many judges prefer simple and flashy things, I try to be wrong on this, I really do, everyday.
I can't stand it when people immediately scream "rigged" on the forums just because their tastes don't match those of the judges. There is no master conspiracy here.
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Just as you're not forced to follow the most popular fashion around that game.
And Benevon, I know I'm naturally a magnitude 11 jerk, but you're much much much better than this. If anything you shouldn't take part in it since it's not concerning you and that everyone trusts you.
*gasp*
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
*milk squirting out of nose*
BA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
*tears*
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
*phew*
God, I need a cigarette now. I think I just peed a little.
RIP Caine
What did I just read?
Of course I think it's atrocious when 90% of the winners are from that SG, but there's nothing that can be done about it. Suck it up and try again later. It also helps to not go there to win. Like an earlier poster said, if I get ANY compliment on a costume I take to a costume contest, it's a win for me.
All us CC veterans are discussing, and newcomers wonder, "What chance do I have?"
I actually think plenty, and here's sort of why.
Comedians have a phrase, "playing to the back row."
It's when they don't care about making their intended audience laugh.
Instead, they're trying to make the other comedians...the tougher crowd...laugh.
So, winning CCs for prizes and getting "oogled" stops being fun after awhile.
So a lot of us don't play to win. We play to entertain, shock, and bewilder.
And a lot of us do this by choosing the worst category to enter.
So to newcomers...no worries. Many of us CC vets aren't competing with you.
We're just trying to make each other laugh. Hopefully, you too will get the joke.
That is so true of the past. It's also when every CC had the same categories.
But that's really not true now. There's just so many curveball categories.
So I'm just a little bit surprised at this sentiment coming out now. It's just outdated IMHO.
I briefly thought of the possibility this SG should step aside to give newcomers a chance.
Then I realized this was the WORST idea ever. It's stupid and counter-productive.
Reason: you don't strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.
I actually think the SG is very important to set a high standard for us to exceed.
So don't blame this SG for winning. Don't blame the judges. Don't blame yourself.
Just focus on how to win, or in the case of the CC vets, making other people laugh.
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Oh, I know that, I even mentioned it. But all the blatant 'you mad bro' stuff surfing around the thread sounded like it never, ever, ever happened, almost reminds me of my current government. As this feeling coming out now.. Well you could say the few bad apples spoiled the bunch for most of people.
Besides for now, I'm only wishing there are much more specific categories. You can be sure that for most, Creature and Scary are pretty much the same thing.
My theory is that for this kind of bull**** not to happen, you would need to do CC's only with people you know and appreciate, and with everybody knowing and appreciating everybody. This way you know that the judges won't pick "duh" costumes, and that the winner won't say "suck it looser" when his name is announced. Problem is : with the few people playing this game, it's hard forming such a posse, so you're stuck with strangers most of the time. The solution ? Be friends with everybody and win all the time.
*re-reads* -wait that makes no sense. ****.
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And too many people think retro and tights ARE the same thing, where I would beg to differ
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I suppose I should expand on my original laughing, and actually explain some things. Hi, I'm operations director for Spear. We held the first costume contest in game. We've no doubt held more than anyone else, I've personally hosted over a thousand. Know what our rule is? Same as every other SG (and I've been in every sg that holds costume contests, at some point, because we're a tight community), our rule is "you judge the costume, not the @". Little known secret is we actually judge our friends HARSHER than we judge the strangers. Why? We know what they're capable of. You come in a stranger off the street, and blow me away with a costume? I'm going to recognize it. You're someone I've known in the community for a few years, with a good costume? I'm going to want a great one, because I know you're capable of amazing work. I should also point out that before I quit, I was one of those people that you'd see win CC after CC. On any of my like 30 cc-going alts, when I have about 5 years of experience in hosting and competing in ccs. So you could certainly write my name down, but what you're not catching is that I've got a ton of practice at this. I know the judges, their tastes, and I've got about every costume piece possible.
I'm also the very first person to give costume advice, if someone asks, and hand out free costume unlocks if I've already got em. Because I wanted to see the scene expand and people have a great time doing it.
And finally, the absurdity. This is what I laugh at every time I read these. What in the flying monkey-covered purple colored jalapeno flavored hell would the point be in gathering a bunch of people together just to intentionally call my friend out and give em 100g? Think about this. You think if their costume is not good, anyone's gonna give a single honest crap that they won? No, they're gonna complain. Granted, people *always * complain, but moreso than usual. As well, my rep and the rep of my SG is gonna suffer. People won't come to my CCs because they know I make bad picks.
OP: I'll be direct. I used to give away a become device or vehicle at every single CC I hosted. I've spent thousands on this game, giving away shiny things to random strangers just to make the game more fun. Posts like this are why I quit, and won't even compete anymore. Know that every time you spread this bulls**t, you get a step closer to driving an old and friendly vet away from the scene for good. WTF is the point of even trying if there's always gonna be some jealous jerk waiting in the wings to say your win is more a result of your friendships, rather than the 3 hours you spent fine tuning your look? And why in the actual hell would I want to give my money out when you're one of the people that might win it? I know if you're willing to blame a massive conspiracy, you honestly think you *deserve* every win. And the hell you do, there's not a player in game (although I could make a good argument for slapperfish) that can walk into a cc category and honestly say "this category is mine, because nobody else can build a costume like I do".
RIP Caine
We're not robots, we're humans. CC's are purely based on opinions..
I've been hosting CC"s for a while and what i've really got to say to this thread is this..
"Really? You think we're rigging these CC's? What would be the point of even hosting? I do it to please the community and have fun."
For a fact, my most recent CC, the anniversary CC special costed me over $40 and over 600g alone. I prepare before hand buying prizes for people i dont even know.
Another fact. When i get in there, its jam packed, how the hell do you really expect me to go through everyone's handle? i give everyone an equal opportunity to win. I'd never spend my time, grinding through hours of gameplay, earning G's and only to give it to some jerk who demands to win in a CC. It just wont happen. Ever.
You get in there, you make a costume and you get judged based on the judges opinions.. did you see the key word there..? OPINIONS.
If you're mad about people judging whether or not they like your costume, dont come. People who constantly go to CC's get inspired to make better costumes and get ideas. I believe every time someone comes back to a CC.. they improve because they observe and learn...
im sick of these types of threads.
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...could one of you take a look at my thread ("Jon's Visual Recognition Guide") and tell me if any of the costumes in there seem like they might be winners some time? I just can't decide - one problem I have is that I sometimes wind up liking the backstory so much, I think the costume is amazing, but others can't see the backstory, just the costume, which makes it less impressive. (404, for instance, is designed to look as ordinary and nondescript as possible, because he's "the little man who wasn't there." But it's hard for that to come across, you know?)
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I've gone to costume contests off and on since the game started and I quit mostly out of boredom.
The thing that'd piss me off was I'd see some great original costumes* and worse ones, really worse ones would win and it was usually the same @handles winning.
I can see how that would frustrate any new comer. It made the tedium of sitting for a contest unbearable.
I'm old enough to remember when the PH was a box, with a few other boxes attached.
-Short version-
If you like costume contests go for it; the socializing can be fun and can make winning possible by making buddies with the people who run them.
If you want to win one? Don't even think about it untill your a known costumer.
*not mine, I'm good with costumes but so so at being original.
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Some may come and some may stay
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This is EXACTLY why I go to CC's. Win/lose, not so important as that random /tell from someone I don't know (even if I do know) that tells me my look is awesome. THAT makes my night!
After I found out the existence of CC's almost 3 years ago, I attended for SIX months before I ever won one. I watched and noted and learned. Then I got better.
Something to consider when you think about how often we win. We attend CC's en masse. There's rarely ever less than 5 or 6 of us. We seem to win a lot because there's a lot of us attending. Once upon a time we used to regularly fill the entire back row of one side and spill into the next. We love watching good costumes.
Anyway, love us or hate us, as long as there are CC's, SODLAG will be there.
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See ya in the theater!
Oh, and Mr. OP.....if you're having trouble winning, just pm me in game, I'll be happy to throw you some pointers.
IMO, if you want to get noticed at a CC? Rock your costume. And rock it well. And don't give an honest f**k what the judges think. The crowd will tell you if you're good, and a few of us (myself used to be included) will walk over and give you G if we like what you brought. Or tell you it's good, so you know to use it again. In fact, as a host, I would call out costumes I enjoyed, so people knew it was a style I enjoyed. Why? Not so I could say "you got second best" but more to say "and you did that right, come to mine in that style and you've got a good shot". Most of the good cc hosts tend to do that with legit costumes. That's why we offer honorable mentions.
Jon? I'd be glad to look over your stuff. I know you're good at the tailor, I can't imagine that you aren't capable of a bunch of wins given a bit of time.
RIP Caine
Now personally, I'd rather win in a costume I like, rather than try to win with something somebody else likes for the sake of winning. And I have won some with costumes I'm proud of, I have won categories that made me go "really? why me?", I have lost to ones that weren't my personal taste, I have lost to ones that damn well deserved it and I have lost and been flooded with PMs that I should have won....
Point is, these are people giving away resources to people for the fun of it. I learned a long time ago that going to a CC to win will lead to nothing but frustration. Go to have fun, chat with friends, get new costume combination ideas, and show off your rockin' tights and who cares if you get picked as long as YOU like it.
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I'm going to tell you what I do with CCs.
Step 1. Arrive ten minutes early and check out the crowd. If your preferred category has:
A. A joke entry (i.e. a ninja category, the joke entry is a clown ninja)
B. A cute entry (i.e. a ninja category, the cute entry is a little girl ninja)
C. An honest-to-god superior entry (i.e. a ninja category, someone has the COOLEST ninja)
D. Too many entries (TOO MANY NINJAS)
Choose another category. Judges in general (I know I'm stereotyping) LOVE joke and cute entries for categories that generally aren't funny or cute, and if you're outmatched by a better costume, then you're outmatched. While it might be awesome to win in a category that 70% of the contestants are going for, your best bet is to just pick another category.
Step 2. Wait. If you can multitask, do so, unless the CC host has something for everyone to do while the judges do their thing. Trivia and the like. Do some homework, play some other video games... Why don't I say check out some other costumes? Because you should have done that in Step 1. *bops the reader* Truth be told, I've beaten many a game during CC judging periods. Keep an eye on Zone Chat though! You don't want to miss...
Step 3. THE ANNOUNCEMENT! Put down your video game or stop doing your homework for now and pay attention. If your name is called, congratulations, get on up there. If it isn't, wait until the CC's over and go look at the winners and see what they've done to win... unless it's, y'know, a joke entry or a cute entry, which may not be your style. If that's the case, try again at another CC!
Step 4. Improve. Refine your costume. Make it the aforementioned superior costume. Keep an eye out for costuming trends and defy them. I actually won a tech CC after the Holohex set came out by tastefully using Holohex, Cyberpunk and a few other pieces together instead of abusing the Holohex set like crazy, as well as using a not-commonly-seen base color.
If you follow my four steps to CC sanity, you won't have any 'wasted time' just sitting around waiting for the judges to finish, you'll wind up with better costumes, and all in all you'll have a smoother time of it.
Unless you, y'know, actually want to socialize with people... which I actually find difficult... ._.
ALSO, if you have a true character concept that you don't wish to defy (I often dress my CHARACTER in the costume as opposed to just straight up making the costume) you're going to have a hard time. Certain people can pull it off, but if your character is, say, a vampire bunny ninja, or a lizard woman, and you want to participate in CCs? GOOD LUCK!
I did the exact same thing once upon a time. My results were basically the same. I just didn't bother posting or talking about it and just left them to their own business. I had far better things to do then stand around waiting for a cat girl to win again.
Excellent points May
I'm also in SODLAG and wanted to make these points but May got there before me and did it better (as usual:mad:).
There is no conspiracy OP.
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Shhh don't say that, then UFOs, Big Foot, Loch Ness, and 99 cent stores were all lies too!
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You... you mean my Tsitaka Bigfoot fur coat isn't genuine?
Sorry if it sounded like I'm associating the current sore losers' sentiments to you , Mr. Forz.
I was agreeing with you, as I remember. But I never held a grudge against those winners.
I don't know of any bad apples, maybe I missed those CCs. What I see is, experience.
IMHO, that's backwards. You get known only by winning and doing so consistently.
When I started, it took me at least a week of trying to win my 1st CC.
Then after that 1st win, I started winning more consistently, every time with new toons.
I'd also lose...no one remembers the losing entries, but I would learn more each time.
(OP marked down the @handles when they won. But how about when they lost?)
When I won a lot, did people know me? Yes.
Was that why I won? I doubt it, because I never really hosted.
IMHO, it was simply by that time I got so much experience from winning AND losing.
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If you guys really don't know the 1 trick of CCs already, IMHO it is simply this:
Judges do NOT judge which looks the best (usually).
Judges pick out the best FIT to 1 specific category.
This is why sometimes a more boring costume wins. It's designed to fit that 1 category.
It sounds simple, but it's not easy. There's thousands of nuances to this 1 trick.
And how do people know about these nuances? Experience.
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WWE is FAKE??? I have been watching it for over 20 years and would never have guessed!!! My world is shattered!!!!!
I will now blame Costume Contests for my pain.
Just my 2 cents...
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the annoying thing if anything about a contest are people who show up and be incredibly rude.
a personal annoyance of mine, is when a judge calls out the winner of a category, there is usually always someone who will just pick up and leave because they haven't won, instead of staying till the end. and it makes me glad that that person didn't win as they clearly don't appreciate the effort that people go through in this game so this games community actually have some sort of regular thing to do together day in and day out. if it wasn't for these people this game would have not much going for it.
and its also these same moaning people that make it out like taking part in the contest is some long back breaking procedure. you basically stand in a square for twenty minutes- half an hour and you might win yourself something. if that half an hour is some huge loss out of your day your more than welcome to stick with your exhilarating life style of sky diving and bear wrestling.
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See, that's exactly it. You skipped a step because that's what veteran winners do.
Ironically, that "I don't care if I win" mentality actually improves chances to win.
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It's true. A complete lack of giving a crap usually leads to some inspired, off the wall costumes. Most of my biggest winning costumes are based on looks I put together specifically to mess with the judges, and not out of any serious desire to be the very best in a given category. However, judges can tell when you're being playful with your costume. And I only know of a few super groups that won't laugh and give such a costume recognition, and at least an honorable mention.
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We host CCs because we love costumes and the great variety of detail you can express yourself in game. We don't pick or avoid picking winners based on their SG affiliation at all, we look at the costumes and decide who we like best for the categories.
Our group decided as well that in addition to category winners, decided upon consensus of all the judges, that each judge in the contest would award (with a prize) their own personal Honorable Mention to a toon that isn't otherwise chosen as a category winner. This gives us even more freedom to recognize the efforts we really enjoy and serves to swell the winners pool beyond the typical categories as well.
Finally we all also thought that one thing usually missing from CCs that bugged us a little bit was an answer to the question of "Why did that toon win?". So as a part of our announcements for the category and honorable mention winners our judges give a brief explanation or comment about the winner and why we each liked that costume enough to recognize it.
We are not 'cheap' on prize Globals, we don't always use the same categories from CC to CC (although there are some staple cats that appear regularly), we try to keep our categories clear enough that 'overlap' is not a big problem (as mentioned above where retro & tights often get blurred) and we respect the whole community of CC attendees and other hosts for doing the best they can just to enjoy the game the way they want to. We even hang around after our CCs and give tips and comments to those who approach us for that kind of dialogue.
It's a real shame that some players feel that the costume contest environment may be rigged, predictable, unfair, flawed or designed just to promote a plan in the minds of a few players alone but I've found that this just isn't the case and am glad that there are others who want to provide events where players may gather and possibly be recognized for their use of the great costume creator this game provides.
Our SG is small and it takes work for us to accumulate the Globals we recognize other players with at these CCs but it's really worth our time and effort just to marvel in the creations of others. If that's so wrong, I don't want to be right!
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I think that just proves everyone's point that the people who come here crying because they lost and CCs are rigged is a big joke.
And when I hosted CCs, I welcomed any PMs asking why a certain contestant won over another. It helps people understand what certain groups tend to look for.
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I was thinking that too in my last post, and lets be honest about this thread...isn't this a textbook definition of calling out someone (either an individual or an entire SG) which is against the forum rules?
More of my 2 cents... *cough*
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