First of all I'd like to apologize for getting a little overly heated about this particular topic here on the forums before the Patch hit. My aggravation with the development of the NEW powers got the best of me as I was trying to explain why things weren't being done right only to have it all fall on deaf ears. So, I'm sorry for that.
Now I would like to take the time to give some proper feedback on the subject once more. But first, I have a question to the players. How many of you are currently playing with the new powers and enjoying them?
I have been playing ALL weekend, starting early on Friday, and running Smash Alerts non-stop with a few Cybermind Alerts mixed in. You know how many players I've witnessed using the NEW powers for that entire time? ONE! I've seen 3 players TOTAL using Laser Sword attacks and only 1 player using the Particle Accelerator and Unified Theory(guess they hadn't picked up Particle Smash yet or simply didn't want it.) THIS is not normal player behavior when New Powers are released!! When the New Telepathy powers hit I was stuck in Alerts with 2-3 Telepaths using those new powers nearly every other Alert! So why aren't more people using the new powers? My best guess is because they quickly realized how limited conceptually and functionally they are before ever even leaving the powerhouse.
The ball got dropped into a dark, dank, bottomless abyss here guys!
So how can we save this? Well, there is still HOPE! The New Passive being worked on the for the set isn't quite finished, so take the time to go back over these powers and make the appropriate changes BEFORE releasing that Passive! My advice to the developers is to start listening to what your players are saying on this issue...
NEW PARTICLE SMASH FX!!!
WHAT? WHY? WHO thought this was a good idea? A TRON DISK.... REALLY? First of all, WE DON'T NEED MORE TRON JUNK IN THIS GAME!!! Second of all why the hell would you completely ruin ALL laser sword concepts by taking the actual LASER SWORD away from the hardest hitting attack in the set? My mind is officially blown over this one guys! CONCEPT BUILDS are a thing! I hate it, I despise it, I pray for it to be swept under the rug and never talked about again. GIVE US BACK OUR LASER SWORD!!!
NEW ICONS look fine enough, EXCEPT FOR F'ING PARTICLE SMASH(see above^)
I believe you gave Particle Accelerator the same Icon as Lightwave Slash, but this doesn't matter because you need to completely remove Particle Accelerator as a power anyway and instead combine it with the Laser Sword Power.
THINGS THAT NEED TO BE WORKED ON BEFORE GOING TO LIVE!!!
1) Power: Quantum Stability(RENAME to Plasma Drive)
-Give this power better defenses for melee users! Either Resist All Damage or Damage Absorption or something. ONLY Particle Dam Resist doesn't cut it for a melee passive!
-Keep Instability Stacking system.
-Quantum Instability AoE/Buff(RENAME to Plasma Discharge) Change this power from a Summon AoE/Buff to a PBAoE Buff. This makes it better for melee users and allows you to take full advantage of the short duration buff. (USE PLASMA BALL FX)
-NEW Advantage: Explosive Discharge. Your Plasma Discharge now Explodes from you with much greater force. This first strike of Plasma Discharge now does 3-4x the amount of the normal amount. Because of the added stress to your Plasma Drive you are unable to gain stacks of Instability for 10-15seconds after the effects wear off.
2) Power: Laser Sword(Reworked to include Particle Accelerator into it.)
-Change to a 3 strike Combo Attack.
-Each strike of the combo has a 25% chance to apply Plasma Burn to the target. Plasma Burns are refreshed when applying new applications.
-The 3rd strike of the combo grants Acceleration. You can not have more than 1 stack of Acceleration, but the stack can be refreshed.
-1pt Advantage: Accelerated Metabolism.
-2pt Advantage: Particle Accelerator.
-2pt Advantage: (Needs Name.) Turns your Laser Sword into a 90degree Cone, 5 Targets Max. All Targets have a 25% chance to have Plasma Burn applied to them each strike. If also using the Particle Accelerator Advantage, the debuff is only applied to the primary target.
3) Power: Particle Smash
-Return this powers function to how it was before you went all TRON crazy with it. Which means returning the Laser Sword and making it a melee power again.
-ANIMATION CHANGE!!! I would like to request we use 1 of 2 animations.
1) Use the AoE animation where you jam the end of your blade into the ground sending out a shockwave of Plasma Energy.
2) Use the Reapers Embrace(From Single Blade Set) animation and change the cone to 10degrees.
4) Power: Unified Theory(Would LOVE to see a rename on this power also, just because it just sounds STRANGE -_-)
-This power remains exactly how it is now also!!! Except for one small addition that will help in a big way!
-Instead of having the Unified(whatever they're called) Stacks doing nothing for the set other then to buff Particle Smash. Let's have them buff act as a REAL BUFF, and also help increase Particle Smash's effectiveness.
-NEW Unified Stacks now increase your Critical Chance by 5% and Critical Severity by 2% per stack! This allow's for an total increase of 15% Critical Chance and 6% Severity. What does this do? Well....
1) It now buffs your overall damage output.
2) It gives players a choice to try to maintain the extra power OR unleash it with a big Particle Smash that will force them to spend time regaining that power.
3) It sticks to the Particle Ramping Up Damage Theme the game has in place. A good example would be how Particle Rifle increases your Critical Chance/Severity as it is maintained.
4) It is difficult to abuse, if not impossible. A lot of people would take a power if it increased Crits, but the fact that this power requires the use of Accelerator and takes a good amount of time to fully build up should hinder people from using it with outside powers. At most, you'd be seeing some slightly better hybrid builds with Particle Rifles and Ranged Power Armor attacks.
-ANIMATION CHANGE!!! I would like to see the animation changed to Dragon's Bite(from Single Blade Set)
Taking from Underchicken, we have the perfect opportunity to create a unique combo set and be on par with other powersets. I really don't see why we're so insistent on making so many new powers. His idea is to simply merge Laser Sword and Accelerator.
Think of it. The combo would be fluid, and have REAL FINISHERS. Here it is:
Rotation: 3x(3xLaser Sword->Unified)->Smash->Cutter*
*Cutter can be used inbetween to burst burns from Laser Sword applying burns.
Okay so when you guys get back around to the Laser Swords can we have:
The Particle Accelerator power merged with the Original Laser Sword Combo Power. By having its stacks of particle burn being applied on the first and second swing and only on the selected target but still maintaining the AoE of Particle Accelerator. And having the third swing applying the Accelerator buff?
Getting unique animation for the Particle Smash ability. Maybe driving the blade of the sword into the ground.
These are just the most pressing requests I have for the laser swords...
Actually if the Laser Sword combo were to become the cone AoE with a merger with Particle Accelerator, it would bring it on par with Two-Gun Mojo or Ebon Ruin. Because I can on Live (at 25) with a little bit of set up and not using Electric Form. Get the Basic Laser Sword to hit for a little more than 1k once all my Debuffs and Spec buffs are in place. At least I was getting those numbers against the spider at the end of the first Fatal Err0r mission.
So if Particle Accelerator AoE ability and all were merged with the Laser Sword and it became became the following:
Power: Laser Sword
+Now Hits up to 5 targets in a 90 degree cone in front of you
+Now The first 2 strikes of this combo have a 25% chance of Applying Plasma Burn to the selected Target with the Third Strike having a 100% chance of applying to the selected target and a 25% chance to apply to additional targets.
+Now The Third strike of this combo now Applies the Accelerator Buff to the player.
No other changes made.
I would be extremely happy about it. I also think this change would be more beneficial to the power as a whole for people to select it as it would have a higher degree of utility to the build outside of being the main power of a Laser Sword build. But that's just my opinion...
I just got to testing the Laser Sword powers for the first time. Yeah. First Time. I know I know, it would've been helpful if I was helping with the testing but I wanted to try the near final version. I can tell you it met my expectations. My expectation were bad though, so that's not good.
Firstly, shame on you for making Particle Accelerator look so boring! I mean really....that's pretty sad, in fact that's barely worthy of being called a power. Other than the issue I have with removing Earth Form 2.0-- I mean Quantum Stability, I have Two major problems.
1) Particle Smash. Its a tap cooldown power. It does about 8k taps on crit and (for me) about 12 seconds to recharge. With 3 unified theory stacks it does up to 25k damage with Electric Form (Note I couldn't use Quantum Stability). Oh, and it has a 35 foot AoE. Not for nothing, but this is the cherry pick power of the day. I don't need any of the Laser Sword powers to make this useful. Not saying it should be weaker without Unified Theory. Because I like it the way it is. But really now. Why is it a Tap power? There's an issue with the fact that all other good damage powers require a charge up, although they don't have Cooldowns (Except Gigabolt
) Thats irrelevant to the point. Tap damage attacks aren't smart. Also OH MY GOD I HATE THAT ANIMATION. THIS IS LASER SWORDS NOT TRON LEGACY RIPOFFS. MAKE A LASER SWORD SET AND NOT A TRON SET FOR ****'S SAKE
2) Unified Theory. It is the worst power in the set. How could I say that? It makes Particle Smash more than double its damage. I'll tell you why. Because its a completely railroaded, gutted power. You have absolutely no choice to take Particle Accelerator with this power or its absolutely useless. Not for nothing, but isn't an 8 second charge excessive? Why can't it just be a 2 second charge? At least then its MILDLY REASONABLE to use without Particle Smash. What happened to "Be the hero you want to be"
? I would like an advantage for it that increases its damage significantly but removes prevents it from granting Unified Theory stacks, then at least it could be good as its own power if someone wanted to use it without Smash and accelerator. Again, It still needs a shorter charge time. Particle Accelerator doesn't justify that. Nothing does.
Beyond these two major issues I have another complaint. Why is Particle Accelerator its own power
? It does nearly the same damage as Laser Sword but with an uglier animation. No combo
(which means it doesn't benefit from combo bonuses through specs
) and a slightly cheaper energy cost. Can you just remove this power and toss the buff application in with Laser Sword
? Its not like Laser Sword has anything worthwhile other than slightly higher damage, don't argue the case of Plasma Burns. Those are crap.
Replying to a comment about the Particle Smash's FX:
I don't like it on the basis its not a laser sword and these are supposed to be Laser Sword powers. It also feels like a cop out trying to rip off Tron.
Ok on the point of Laser Sword and PAccelerator. They Are Not. In fact they works completely independently. If it wasn't for Plasma Cutter's vast and numerous Issues, I'd even say that Laser Sword/Plasma Cutter is simple superior to new Laser Sword in every way. PAccelerator and Laser Sword would be better off merged.
As to the comment about This being like New Telepathy.
Look around, how is Telpathy doing? Terribly. But there are some things it got right. Like how its debuffs can be used without having to suffer through the entire set. New Laser Sword can't take its powers out of set to benefit. New Laser Sword has no real buffs, just dummy buffs to create a railroaded power system, which is totally fine for WoW. Not CO. CO is ABOUT mix and matching. These new powers go completely against that rhythm and create their own screwed up unsynchronized, disharmonious, clunky beat.
I don't normally post in the forums, but my main is a PA Blades offtank, so I have a minor investment in this topic and will make an exception. I don't like the new PA Blade powers, and there's really only one reason why: Particle Accelerator. It's a Tap power with a 30% chance to apply the Accelerator buff, and exists for no other purpose. The buff is necessary to apply stacks of Unified Theory, but to get the buff, you have to effectively stop doing significant damage (compared to, say, Laser Sword) for an arbitrary period of time, and you have to do so for each individual stack of UT you aim to acquire. In my opinion, it is neither desirable nor fun to use.
Hmm... I hope I'm not the only person seeing that a lot of the same issues are being brought up, and most seem to be coming to a similar conclusion.
Of course there have also been people here stating the New powers are FINE as is, they're happy with them. Yet I still believe the number of people actually playing with these power in game currently states otherwise. I honestly believe the same people that have stated that they're happy with these powers in there current form would be even HAPPIER with them if the proper adjustments were made to them. Those adjustments being...
-Combine the new Particle Acceleration power with the Laser Sword power and turn it into a combo!
-Give Unified Theory a unique buff that increases the effectiveness of the entire set, not just used to aid one single power!
-Change Particle Smash back into a Laser Sword ability! This power was near perfect BEFORE you added the Tron Disk fx to it.
-Listen to feedback while finishing up that new Passive!
So now that we have an understanding of what should be done to help the New Laser Sword powers, let's talk a little about that Tron Identity Disk FX.
I am well aware there are many people that would love to use this FX. Be it for a TRON Clone or a simple Digital Hero, a Cybernetic Olympian discuss thrower or a goofy Ultimate Frisbee Champion. The new FX has it's uses, I won't deny. The only problem with these concepts is that none of them are likely to be using a LASER SWORD also. Having this FX LOCKED behind, not one, but TWO Laser Sword abilities is mind boggling!
I think this poster has come up with the best direction to go with this power...
Make it a single-target ranged attack that chains to other nearby enemies, similar to Richochet Throw.
So here are my suggestions for the TRON Identity Disk Power...NEW POWER
: Digital Disk
(This power should use the current Disk FX from Particle Smash mixed with the throwing animation from Boomerang powers)
*Ranged Damage - Blast
You throw a well aimed disk at your foes that can bounce to several(10 Max), striking them each for Particle Damage before returning to you. Damage ramps up each time it bounces to a new foe(This power combines such powers as Ricochet Throw and Lightning Arc.)
The base damage of this power should be slightly higher than that of Lightning Arc. This is do to the fact that you are unable to move(or activate any other abilities) until the disk returns to you(Digitial Disk will be a trade off for increased damage at the cost of mobility and survivability.)ADVANTAGE
: Disk Detonation
This changes your Digital Disk into a Targeted AoE(Kind of like how it is with Particle Smash currently.) The Disk will explode upon hitting your primary target, striking up to 5 targets. The primary target takes double the damage. This Advantage costs 2 pts as it changes the power to no longer effect your mobility or survivability(by not being able to activate other abilities.)
So there we are, I think everyone can be happy with these changes. Players will get to have those new Laser Sword builds they were so very much hoping for, and other players will get to use that fancy Tron Disk FX on it's own power that can be customized to fit any build! It's a WIN WIN
as they say.
To TrailTurle and the Development Team, I ask you to PLEASE
take this feedback seriously. We care about this game and we hope you do too!EDIT
: Edited to include some questions to help garner more precise feedback...
Do you agree with any of the suggested improvements?
Are there other improvements you would like to see made?
Answers to these type of questions would help this thread be much more productive than simple "I like the new powers" posts. Of course if you don't want to see anything changed at all than it's perfectly fine to state just that.