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ayonachanayonachan Posts: 557 Arc User
edited August 2013 in Power Discussion
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A piece of those who have past on before us, lives deep inside us all
― Johanna Banda

Don't reply to this thread just let it slowly get lost within the abyss...I just need a 

place to dump my information...so here is fine!
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1/2/2013 Unless there is some significant change consider this the end. I will poke around 

in CO but our information dump is over. Feel free to bring it from the abyss and add onto 

the information if you like. Ayona signing off.[/COLOR][/SIZE]

[COLOR="Green"]All numbers are for level 40[/COLOR]

Critical Strike & Dexterity
*214 Dexterity with 0 Critical Strike(no items boosting it) grants 28% critical chance from 

dexterity. Overall Critical Chance is 27.8%
*214 Dexterity with 198 Critical Strike(If I remembered correctly..) grants 22% critical 

chance from dexterity. Overall Critical Chance is 42.1%

"Base" critical chance is 0 BUT because you MUST have 10 dex it turns into 0.13%
47 Critical Strike grants 3.9%
95 Critical Strike grants 11.2%
103 Critical Strike grants 12.7%
198 Critical Strike grants 27%
245 Critical Strike grants 32.2%


Base Severity is 50%
4.6 Severity grants 61.3%
8.9 Severity grants 65.6%
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Con has no DR

Damage Debuffs work like Defense Buffs and stack fairly easily

400ish(forgot the exact number) Pre gives you a r3 Aura of radiant protection of 101% for your allies(in support role)
Same # for con as the above would grant 19% defiance...which goes to 114%(and you get an 

energy gain function)

All crowd control types get removed faster as the target takes damage from attacks

r3 Vapor Form is higher than 21% defiance

>Updated<Clinging Flames animation interrupts maintains/charges on player 

characters>Updated< From what I can tell from the level 60 mega-ds the animation 'does' 

interrupt their attacks but it is very random when the animation will play and they will 

resume casting the attack that got interrupted after they play the animation...Works on 

gravitar and she stops using the power that she was trying to use, so far no 'hidden' 

bubbles(further testing may be required)

>Updated<Gravitar can grant 100% resistance to knocks as long as the player does not have 

any knock buffs on them and they need to be hit by 1 of her force cascades and then a 

'bugged' force geyser the 2 'bugged' knock buff stacks must then be constantly refreshed by 

receiving any knock damage before the 15 second buff is up(Which is a little harder than it 

sounds..)(Further testing might be required)

>Updated<Self-less Ally is FIXED! YES!!!!

1million damage hit might still be possible(further testing required but so far it might be 

fixed)Edit: No point in testing it since not many people remaining know exactly how to do it 

so I'll just let it die

Radiance doesn't proc twist fate but it can proc Exhausting Strikes on the player as well as 

any and all targets that you are allowed to target and use the power on

Kickback + Wrist Bolter (Automated Assault) grants a never ending supply of energy as long 

as power armor powers are used with it

Wrist Bolter (Automated Assault) grants twist fate even when the power is being used in the 

hand slot along with other Power armor powers.

Revitalize + Wrist Bolter (Automated Assault) works...so much for 'balance' now radiance has 

competition...thankfully you cannot have kickback and revitalize..

"Safe Spot" In melee range of some giant mobs may still exists(cannot be hit by melee 

attacks but can be hit by ranged attacks..yet the player can use their melee attacks on the 

giant mob..) Further testing required


Double AoRP blocking block may still exist (further testing required)

Dual Travel power bug still exists for a select few travel powers

Possible to perma hold a mob past their hold buff resistance timers(as long as nothing 

damages the mob except the few powers that can damage mobs but not holds) Requires 2 

different types of holds>ego sleep & paralyze<

Gravitar Costume and Robotic Arms/legs...(Please don't fix this I really like how steampunk 

arms looks with it...)

I still have those unlimited warps...I do not know if they fixed the ones you buy from the 

c-store yet since I have yet to buy anymore to test it out..

Jets auto-bind if you have a device slot free...I only heard of this happening I have yet to 

try to test it out yet..

Robotic Ball Hand(Left) exists..?(Seriously...I know it exists...but I have yet to get it to 

work in the tailor...damn muni bots showing off their bondage kitty hand..)

Self-less ally can proc off the rez circle when your the only target around(I've seen it 

happen like once but never got the time to fully test it out yet)

Staying within a hideout for long periods of time mess around with your passives(makes them 

shut off and blink) Further testing required

6.838 Cost discount%

[12431213]

66 + 66 = 133
66 + 66 + 23 + 66 + 44 + 44 + 44 + 80 + 5 = 440
66 + 66 + 23 + 44 + 44 + 44 + 80 + 5 = 373
66 + 66 + 23 + 66 + 19 + 19 + 19 + 80 + 5 = 364
66 + 66 + 66 + 8.5 + 8.5 + 8.5 + 40 + 5 + 12 + 8 + 5 + 5 + 5 + 5 = 310
66 + 66 + 23 + 19 + 19 + 19 + 80 + 5 = 297
44 + 44 + 44 + 80 + 5 = 217
66 + 19 + 19 + 19 + 80 + 5 = 208
19 + 19 + 19 + 80 + 5 = 141
8.5 + 8.5 + 8.5 + 40 + 5 = 70
66 + 66 + 8.5 + 8.5 + 8.5 + 40 + 5 = 204
66 + 66 + 66 + 8.5 + 8.5 + 8.5 + 40 + 5 = 270
(Almost all values over 10 have hidden decimals)

*4651 310
*3653 244

489 is [URL="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?

key=0Akvi8M5NrIMddFlWUkxsOVB1eDBDazU2WkhUYjlaRXc#gid=1"][SIZE="7"][COLOR="White"]GOD[/COLOR]
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766.989[3.2%]2147483647[21.882]95.9760

There are a few hidden effects on certain powers...But most are less useful than you think..

The AoRP Blocking Block is still in....If you have AoRP and Someone else on your team does 

too and your running in healer role then that means you lose the ability to block(it still 

shows the animation but you won't block any attacks..)

Oh and the 1million damage hit is still in...so go nuts!

Sigils of Ebon Weakness...The most usefully useless Sigil..(Hint: When I use it it can give 

275% Damage resistance to everyone...but it can die fairly easily too!)

Selfless Ally + XXXXXXX
Yes it has been stated that selfless ally gives waaaay too much but...
Selfless Ally + Enemy Health Drain(on me)....+hp for me!
Selfless Ally + Fissure + Sentinel Aura = Selfless ally "copies" Sentinel Aura(Yes I was the 

only "ally" around during all the tests)
Selfless Ally + Gas Pellets + Sentinel Aura = See above
Selfless Ally + Implosion Engine + Sentinel Aura = See above
There may be other powers that do the same as the above but those are the ones that I have 

personally tested..

Illumination(Celestial Review in October Please!)
You can 'stack' what could possibly be an infinite number(haven't truly tested the limits 

yet..) of Illumination buffs on yourself/allies...But....It requires you to change zones in 

order to get another stack on yourself/allies(never tested it on allies yet..) They all, 

also, have 'different' timers but they will all remain in the same stack..they just die off 

1 by 1..

Fissure, Gas Pellets, Implosion Engine
I believe all these powers can also give yourself damage and the debuff from the various 

"On-Next-Hit" Powers..I didn't test them so they may or may not work...this is just a 

theory..

People rushing in a gravitar alert in hopes of 'bugging' her out...I hate it so much...Yes 

you can make her stand still if you load very fast and rush to her..It isn't fun at all to 

kill something that can't kill you back so stop doing it!(If it weren't for my unlimited mc 

warps I would have killed someone by now..) Oh well...I'm just glad that it has a chance to 

fail...so I don't have to keep teleporting back to ren whenever the same poo head keeps 

trying to bug her..

BackUps
Thank you for fixing this!

Gravitar
You can teleport to your teammates to get past the lock-out.

>PTS< (Initial Release) Legacy Devices Pack
UGGGHHHHHHHHH crrryyyyppppptttiiiicccccc why you gotta break stuff even more!? Was the whole 

back-ups thing not enough!? Gaahh! Revitalize (3) + Eruption + Eruption + Eruption + 

Necrullitic Elixir + DeviceSlot5 = One big Immune ****storm that will plague the game unless 

cooldowns for multiple of the same devices are made...Hell, GET RID OF REVITALIZE AND YOU 

SOLVE almost ALL PROBLEMS! Gesture was nice though so thanks for that..

Ok! Well they released the packs on live now and guess what! Not a damn thing changed...
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Alright time for this bull****...
Cost Reduction with 10 int('lowest' amount of int you will ever idle with):

Mini Gun - 11 Initial 7.8 per .25
46 Cost Reduction - 11 Initial 7.2 per .25
93 Cost Reduction - 9.4 Initial 6.4 per .25
93+46 Cost Reduction - 8.4 Initial 5.7 per .25
276 Int(68%) - 6.8 Initial 4.6 per .25
288 Int(70%) - 6.8 Initial 4.6 per .25
288 Cost Reduction - 6.7 Initial 4.6 per .25
276 Int(68%) + 46 Cost Reduction - 6.6 Initial 4.5 per .25
288+46 Cost Reduction - 6.5 Initial 4.4 per .25
288 Int(70%)+46 Cost Reduction - 6.5 Initial 4.4 per .25**


Two-Gun Mojo - 15 Initial 12 per .5
46 Cost Reduction - 14 Initial 11 per .5
93 Cost Reduction - 12 Initial 9.6 per .5
93+46 Cost Reduction - 11 Initial 8.5 per .5
276 Int(68%) - 8.9 Initial 6.9 per .5
288 Int(70%) - 8.8 Initial 6.9 per .5
288 Cost Reduction - 8.8 Initial 6.8 per .5
276 Int(68%) + 46 Cost Reduction - 8.6 Initial 6.7 per .5
288+46 Cost Reduction - 8.5 Initial 6.6 per .5
288 Int(70%)+46 Cost Reduction - 8.5 Initial 6.6 per .5**

Redirected Force - 63 Initial 32 p/s
46 Cost Reduction - 59 Initial 30 p/s
93 Cost Reduction - 52 Initial 26 p/s
93+46 Cost Reduction - 47 Initial 23 p/s
276 Int(68%) - 38 Initial 19 p/s
288 Int(70%) - 38 Initial 19 p/s
288 Cost Reduction - 37 Initial 19 p/s
276 Int(68%) + 46 Cost Reduction - 36 Initial 18 p/s
288+46 Cost Reduction - 36 Initial 18 p/s
288 Int(70%)+46 Cost Reduction - 36 Initial 18 p/s**

Force Cascade - 97-280
46 Cost Reduction - 90-260
93 Cost Reduction - 80-231
93+46 Cost Reduction - 71-205
276 Int(68%)- 58-167
288 Int(70%)- 57-165
288 Cost Reduction - 57-164
276 Int(68%) + 46 Cost Reduction- 56-161
288 Int(70%)+46 Cost Reduction - 55-159**
288+46 Cost Reduction - 55-158

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370 Cooldown Speed along with 10 int('lowest' amount of int you will ever idle with) turns:
5.9 seconds into 2.9 seconds
15 seconds into 7.2 seconds
30 seconds into 15 seconds
1 minute 29 seconds into 43 seconds
1 minute 58 seconds into 58 seconds
236 minutes 27 seconds into 115 minutes 50 seconds

482 Cooldown Reduction and 10 int makes 1 minute  58 seconds into 50 seconds..

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My Active Defenses are 36 Seconds with 12 Seconds inbetween them! (Granted that I DO have 

21% recharge from the protector tree along with the mastery)

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Defense doesn't get any worst than it does at .5 but offense takes the biggest dump on all the values 200+.

At level 40 50.4 defense is 12% damage reduction and 615.4 Defense is 145% damage reduction.

(615.4/50.4)*12 = 146.524

Compare 145%(actual) to 146.524%('estimated')

(111.9/50.4)*12 = 26.643%('estimated') 26%(actual)
(200.2/50.4)*12 =47.667% ('estimated') 47%(actual)
(298/50.4)*12 = 70.952%('estimated') 70%(actual)

At level 40 67.6 offense is 15% damage bonus and 1288.6 offense is 52% damage bonus

(1288.6/67.6)*15 = 285.932%

Compare 52%(actual) to 285.932%('estimated')

(120/67.6)*15 = 26.627('estimated') 22%(actual)
(135.2/67.6)*15 = 30('estimated') 24%(actual)
(209.1/67.6)*15 = 46.398('estimated') 31%(actual)

Base Offense(0) grants 0%
67.6 Offense grants 15%
120 Offense grants 22%
135.2 Offense grants 24%
209.1 Offense grants 31%
263.9 Offense grants 34%
340.5 Offense grants 38%
433.4 Offense grants 41%
472 Offense grants 42%
563.8 Offense grants 44%
702.7 Offense grants 47%
739.7 Offense grants 47%
829.5 Offense grants 48%
851.2 Offense grants 49%
881.1 Offense grants 49%
1040.7 Offense grants 50%
1066.7 Offense grants 51%
1188.6 Offense grants 51%
1288.6 Offense grants 52%


Base Defense(0) grants 0%
50.4 Defense grants 12%
111.9 Defense grants 26%
153 Defense grants 36%
173.8 Defense grants 41%
196.2 Defense grants 46%
200.2 Defense grants 47%
278.8 Defense grants 66%
298 Defense grants 70%
311.7 Defense grants 73%
369.4 Defense grants 87%
418.7 Defense grants 99%
477.5 Defense grants 112%
499.1 Defense grants 117%
529 Defense grants 124%
585.5 Defense grants 138%
615.4 Defense grants 145%


With all that said it is significantly easier to mega-stack offense than defense.

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Base Dodge is 10%
Base Avoidance is 20%

153 dodge grants 42.5%
139 avoidance grants 58.7%

[COLOR="Red"]*XX% dodge grants 13.4%[/COLOR]
21% avoidance grants 31.4%

153+XX% dodge grants 44.4%
139+21% avoidance grants 61.9%

292 dodge grants 54.5%
241 avoidance grants 69.5%

292+XX% dodge grants 57.9%
241+21% avoidance grants 71.3%

All of the number above had on either heroic gear of elusiveness or heroic gear of agility

(or no gear)
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All of the numbers below had on either Legion gear of agility or some random blue with rank 

2 avoidance mod in it

306 dodge grants 55.3%
102 Avoidance grants 52.5%

306+XX% dodge grants 57.2%
102+21% avoidance grants 56.8%
[COLOR="Red"]*102+21% Avoidance & 0+XX% dodge grants 12.2% dodge chance[/COLOR]
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353 avoidance grants 76.3%
353+21% avoidance grants 77.4%



[COLOR="Red"]*Apparently...Avoidance decreases dodge chance of swinging's Flippin' buff 

SLIGHTLY...for whatever reason..[/COLOR] This becomes extremely apparent when I removed the 

rank 2 mod from the blue gear and compared the two separate numbers


Rank 3 LR(455) + 153 Dodge grants 66.4%
Rank 3 LR(455) + 153 Dodge +XX% grants 67%

Rank 3 LR(455+50%) + 256 Avoidance grants 87%
Rank 3 LR(455+50%) + 256 Avoidance +21% grants 87.4%

Rank 3 LR(470) + 306 Dodge grants 69.6%
Rank 3 LR(470) + 306 Dodge +XX% grants 70.3%

Rank 3 LR(470+50%) + 139 Avoidance grants 85.4%
Rank 3 LR(470+50%) + 139 Avoidance +21% grants 85.9%
Rank 3 LR(470+50%) + 369 Avoidance grants 88.6%
Rank 3 LR(470+50%) + 369 Avoidance +21% grants 88.9%
Rank 3 LR(470+50%) + Rank 1 MD(87%) + 369 Avoidance grants 89.7%
Rank 3 LR(470+50%) + Rank 3 MD(126%) + 369 Avoidance +21% grants 90.2%

[COLOR="DarkOrchid"]The XX% is from swinging's Flippin' advantage...which shows the exact % 

that it increases it by unlike the avoidance buff which shows just the percent it increases 

it by..I do not have the patience to go back and get the correct numbers so enjoy the XX%!

[/COLOR]
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Avoidance decreases dodge chance for swinging's flippin' buff(Finally narrowed down what was 

causing me to get less dodge!)

[153 Dodge & 256 Avoidance] + [XX% Dodge & 21% Avoidance] grants 43.8% Dodge & 72.3% 

Avoidance
[153 Dodge & 139 Avoidance] + [XX% Dodge & 21% Avoidance] grants 44.4% Dodge & 61.9% 

Avoidance
[153 dodge] + [XX% dodge & 21% Avoidance] grants 45.9% Dodge & 31.4% Avoidance
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88.9% Avoidance + 19% Defense
[Combat (Self)] You lose 16 (188) Fire Damage from Red Beam.
[Combat (Self)] You lose 32 (375) Fire Damage from an unknown ability.
[Combat (Self)] You lose 65 (750) Fire Damage from an unknown ability.
[Combat (Self)] You lose 129 (1500) Fire Damage from Blue Beam.


90.2% Avoidance + 19% Defense
[Combat (Self)] You lose 14 (188) Fire Damage from Red Beam.
[Combat (Self)] You lose 28 (375) Fire Damage from Yellow Beam.
[Combat (Self)] You lose 57 (750) Fire Damage from Green Beam.
[Combat (Self)] You lose 113 (1500) Fire Damage from Blue Beam.
[Combat (Self)] Mega-Destroid Terminator deals 2026 (20776) Particle Damage to you with Eye 

Beams.
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Quarry

The buff caps at 30 int/ego per stack
You need 300 int to reach this cap(Note: The int gained form the stacks can be used to reach 

the 'cap' as long as you have 300 int then the 30 int/ego cap will be reached. Also, rank 3 

only)

826 Int grants a 30% Concentration

Conclusion: HEAVY diminishing returns for damage.(All tests below were in the hybrid role 

with quarry rank 3 and 826 int reading straight from the powers.)

Force Cascade Rank 3 w/o Concentration:

1139-4858

Force Cascade Rank 3 W/ 8 Stacked Concentraion:

1593-6791

Rank 1 Lightning Arc w/ 8 Stacked Concentration:

380-842

Rank 3 Lightning Arc w/ 8 Stacked Concentraion:

547-1213
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Live test of avoidance for sidekicking.
[IMG]http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/5158/testdrs.png[/IMG]

Just need someone to help me with repeating on pts with my pts gear..
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Everything below this line is just a straight dump of information from my previous posts.

[URL="http://co-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=2634921&postcount=2"]Speed in the 

Veins[/URL]
[URL="http://co-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=2639061&postcount=2"]More Resistance 

crap[/URL]
[URL="http://co-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=2571931&postcount=2"]Laser Sword Crap

[/URL]
[URL="http://co-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=2566291&postcount=2"]Ebon Ruin/Field 

Surge Crap[/URL]
[URL="http://co-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=2675181&postcount=17"]Mods 'R' We

[/URL]
[URL="http://co-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=2387631&postcount=13"]Random Dump of 

Useful information[/URL]
[URL="http://co-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=2581231&postcount=1"]Boxes?! 

FFFFUUUUUUUU[/URL]
[URL="http://co-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=2749881&postcount=43"]Int Stacking & 

Cap for AoPM[/URL]

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*Not Ours*
[URL="http://co-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=1905574&postcount=14"]Fall Damage

(Outdated)[/URL]
[URL="http://co-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=1949166&postcount=2"]Diminishing 

Returns Formula and (Outdated)Critical Hit[/URL]
[URL="http://co-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=2010439&postcount=9"]DW and 

Defenses/Defense penetration[/URL]
[URL="http://co-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=1928399&postcount=9"]Knocking NPCS

[/URL]

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[COLOR="Silver"]I am afraid that certain complications have risen and I do not know if I 

have the time to continue my escapades in Champions Online. For whatever the case may be 

consider this dump of information (that may be wrong) as my parting gift![/COLOR]
[COLOR="DarkRed"]
That was marebear signing off, she was the brains behind all of the number saving...I just 

provided the lifetime gold member account... T-T My wittle marebear is all grown up now!

[/COLOR]

[(((Base Damage * (1 + (AdditiveDamageBonus% - AdditiveDamageDebuff%))) * (1 + ((MultiplicativeDamageBonus - MultiplicativeDamageDebuff??%) + NegativeResistance***%))) / (1 + (Avoidance% - AvoidancePenetration??%))) / (1 + ((Defense% + Block%) - (DefensePenetration% + ResistanceDebuff***%)))] - Flat Damage Reduction

By popular demand here is a great big dump of bull****. Click and go on an adventure! Yes, Comic Sans in yo' Face.

Offense Defense Crit-Strike Crit-Severity Dodge&Avoidance Form-Scaling Layering-Formula
AoRP vs Tanking Passives
Comparing Additive Forms against Multiplicative Forms.
Quarry's Dodge and Elusive Monk's Bull****
Force of Will's Bull****
Quarry vs Lightning Reflexes
More SPEED!
Mods 'R' We
Random Dump of Useful information
Google Drive of Defiance Scaling vs Form Scaling
Sidekicking
Redundancy
MORE ****ING SPEED!!!!

Sometimes I wonder why I bother updating this even after I said I wouldn't..

You know what..for ****s and giggles:

PVP FOR IDIOTS LYK3 M3!
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    l1ghtstarl1ghtstar Posts: 189 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    Necro'n this thread. it too darn useful to be buried (and missed it the first time around)
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    Light Star Alliance (my toons with build guides & videos)
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    Nature Powerset
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    @Man.of.Light
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    ayonachanayonachan Posts: 557 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    41 days until the anniversary and someone finally took the thread's virginity.

    Flaccid with a hint of [REDACTED].

    Edit: Well since you are here I might as well release marebear's passives and junk...There! Finished all that I can stomach. Enjoy!

    Here are rank 1 passives
    Here are rank 2 passives
    Here are rank 3 passives

    Oh, also note that the numbers are for no passives being equipped. Certain values increase once you equip a passive...oh and if you have to ask "how do I read this?" then don't bother looking at them.

    Fun facts:
    We only have 27 passives
    27 Passives 'were' released on Live
    26 Passives scale on your superstats on PTS
    26 Passives scale on your superstats on Live
    27 Passives currently exist on PTS
    27 Passives currently exist on Live
    5 Passives have secondary 'support' effects that scale on Presence only
    1 Passive is slightly bugged
    1 Passive Scales only on Constitution
    1 Passive was removed and replaced with a ****tier version
    The Energy Gain function on certain passives varies but most of the time it scales on your Recovery by a flat rate or it is a simple % over time every X seconds.

    Gonna dump this here for now:
    On live, Quarry's Avoidance% per stack of Audacity for rank 2 is 7.5%
    On PTS, Quarry's Avoidance% per stack of Audacity for rank 2 is 5%.

    Avoidance% is insignificant but:

    Live(Note:This is with Live Avoidance Scaling):
    0Avoidance+Rank2Quarry(1Stack Audacity) grants 24.5%
    0Avoidance+Rank2Quarry(2Stack Audacity) grants 28.6%
    0Avoidance+Rank2Quarry(3Stack Audacity) grants 32.2%
    139Avoidance grants 58.7%
    139Avoidance+Rank2Quarry(1Stack Audacity) grants 59.9%
    139Avoidance+Rank2Quarry(2Stack Audacity) grants 61.1%
    139Avoidance+Rank2Quarry(3Stack Audacity) grants 62.2%

    PTS(Note:This is with PTS Avoidance Scaling):
    0Avoidance+Rank2Quarry(1Stack Audacity) grants 24.5%
    0Avoidance+Rank2Quarry(2Stack Audacity) grants 28.6%
    0Avoidance+Rank2Quarry(3Stack Audacity) grants 32.2%
    139Avoidance grants 55%
    139Avoidance+Rank2Quarry(1Stack Audacity) grants 56.5%
    139Avoidance+Rank2Quarry(2Stack Audacity) grants 57.9%
    139Avoidance+Rank2Quarry(3Stack Audacity) grants 59.2%
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