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sverbridgesverbridge Posts: 18 Arc User
I was playing solo last night, which is what I normally do, and I was completing a mission in one of the outskirts of MC, out by the wharf. (Just got gold membership and had to start all over.) I had just finished up wiping out the NPC villains in the immediate area when I saw a few other players coming running around the corner and just stop. The next thing I know is that I am swarmed by a massive amount of NPCs and I am fighting for my life. The other PCs just took off and left me to fend for myself.

I won, but it sure was a pretty tough battle. Afterward I got to thinking that this might have been some type of ambush. I have accidentally lead some NPCs into other people, but I at least stick around and help clean up the mess I created. Or perhaps I am just being paranoid after some of the crap that happened to me in Neverwinter, which has caused me to just stop playing that game. I was getting bored with it anyway.

Anyway, just curious to see if others have run into this, or at least help me retain some sanity so i stop being paranoid. maybe everyone in the game is a skrull? ;-)
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  • gamakytegamakyte Posts: 105 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    After some guy shafted me taking the spoils after I did the work (can't remember the instance. Something around stronghold) I ran around and gathered up as many NPCs as I could and sent them after him until they died.

    I have had people bring heat my way many times and stuff off. I don't like it. I don't do it unless provoked. I always leave what is rightfully theirs (unless Id know them well enough to play IC, which I don't with anyone here), I help a character in need when I notice. I don't like being asked to come, or stay.
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  • drgmstrdrgmstr Posts: 886 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    ALL the time to make it simple.

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  • cgta1967cgta1967 Posts: 86 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    or...you could just use your travel power and whisk a block a way, and they all de-aggro.....back to same-o same-o.


    trains arent a threat in this game....unless you make it that way.

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  • silverblade#7050 silverblade Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    If I think the person is in trouble, I try to help. Besides, the game is pretty easy to begin with so the extra challenge every now and then sparks some excitement. Whether the person helps me or not is of no consequence.
  • jonsillsjonsills Posts: 6,315 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    cgta1967 wrote: »
    or...you could just use your travel power and whisk a block a way, and they all de-aggro.....back to same-o same-o.


    trains arent a threat in this game....unless you make it that way.

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    Depends on your travel power. Blackwing uses Athletics, because that fits the character concept I had - and that doesn't take you out of aggro range once a mob targets you. They'll chase you pretty far, too...

    OTOH, I've never had someone aggro a mob on me and then leave. I have had someone swipe my objective while I was dealing with the surrounding mobs, especially the Mia Lin escort job; I usually deal with that by waiting for the respawn, or switching instances if I'm in a hurry. (Sometimes waiting works in my favor - last time that happened, I was able to finish the mission that called for taking out five Collectors while I waited for Mia.)
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  • sverbridgesverbridge Posts: 18 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    Leaping away never even crossed my mind, I don't know why. I always try to help people if they look like they are in trouble and then bug off. I know I am not all that great playing the game, which is part of the reason why I solo all the time. (I have PvP and group join requests off) Yeah, I admit I suck.

    At least I know now that I was not being paranoid. I think someone was helping me out in the end and I appreciated that. I should probably keep the comm board up and running in the future to see general communication. I try not to piss people off and if I do so I really did not mean to. I'll even wait if I see people running a general mission that I am doing and wait for the respawn.

    or maybe they thought my character was a rip off of Colossus. It isn't, it is a homage to a friend's character from the PnP game we used to play. I know he did not base his character around Colossus, it was based around Rust from Adventure comics.

    I was here a long time ago, back before this game first came out under the moniker of Plex. After the game was released, I didn't play because, well, simply put I didn't want to pay to play. I came back when it went free to play but had to create a new account, hence the new user name. For some reason it won't let me use my old account name, probably my fault, and frankly I didn't really care. My silver character for the past few years was Plex, but since I went gold a few weeks ago, my new character is Metalman. (Changing the name to Chrome later.) I like playing the AT behemoth. I get the chance to play about once or twice a week for a few hours. oops, got off track there.
  • cgta1967cgta1967 Posts: 86 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    jonsills wrote: »
    ....Athletics,.... and that doesn't take you out of aggro range once a mob targets you. They'll chase you pretty far, too......

    not any farther than any of the other travel powers.
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  • kallethenkallethen Posts: 1,576 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    jonsills wrote: »
    Depends on your travel power. Blackwing uses Athletics, because that fits the character concept I had - and that doesn't take you out of aggro range once a mob targets you. They'll chase you pretty far, too...

    If you have the Versatility adv on Athletics/Acrobatics, I find it's fairly easy to keep run from mobs since the speed buff from being attacked counters the slow down from being "in combat". Whereas other powers will suddenly have me slow down as soon as I'm hit.
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  • ariesmajorariesmajor Posts: 394 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    You can die in this game? WHUUUUUT!?!?!?
  • cybersoldier1981cybersoldier1981 Posts: 2,501 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    Well, Timmy, have a seat next to my recliner and I'll share somethin' with you. Have a Werther's Original.

    Champions Online does not feature open-world faction versus faction PvP, like many other MMORPG's. Now, you might not believe this, but there are a lot of gamers out there whose idea of 'fun' is interrupting the fun of other gamers. A lot of them are just flat out trolls, but some of them work within the boundaries of a game's combat systems.

    These 'competitive' players determine their skill at gaming and determine their self-worth by finding pride in the fact that they can defeat people who have been playing the game less than they have. This requires 'skill' in the form of pushing the number keys on the keyboard and pounding the spacebar repeatedly. After all, these players believe that if you're going to engage in honorable combat- you might as well do it against someone that has no chance of winning.

    Since CO thankfully doesn't have this PvP system in place, these 'competitive' players lose interest in actual PvP systems of the game where others are on the same level as they are. Hypocritical as it is, they realize that this game is not fun if you're always getting killed, but more fun when they're killing someone else and they can laugh about it as they drool down their neckbeard.

    Because these gamers refuse to seek this sort of gameplay elsewhere, and being a boring hump of flesh that can only succeed in games that require you to mash the same buttons over and over again for a longer time to be 'better' than someone else, they seek creative ways like 'training' Mobs. It gives them some satisfaction.

    Not much, but a little.
  • jorifice1jorifice1 Posts: 588 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    It does happen on occasion. It generally is a kind of Griefing, although it no longer happens to much in Champs, because most folks have toons that can either escape or actually survive and defeat the Mobs. Unless someone is making a habit of doing this to you then I would not worry about it. It used to be much more common a long time ago when a single determined Speedster could pull the best part of an entire Zone behind them. Used to see it a LOT in the original Radioactive Ringleader mission where the Speedster would pull dozens of baddies along behind them in a rush to reach Pharose, land one punch (to get credit for the mission when someone DID kill him) and then get swarmed under by their "escort". It REALLY sucked when you had Pharose on the ropes and one of them made their suicide charge, ending in the both of you reduced to greasy smears on the Desert Sands.

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  • nextnametakennextnametaken Posts: 2,212 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    jorifice1 wrote: »
    It does happen on occasion. It generally is a kind of Griefing, although it no longer happens to much in Champs, because...

    There is simply less players around.
    Used to be I couldn't go to Why'd It Have to Be Purple without six or seven
    nubs running down that alley pulling/ignoring or being murdered by the mobs on their tail.

    I see more level 40s farming Purple Reign now than noobs in the neighborhood.
  • jaguar40jaguar40 Posts: 204 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    sverbridge wrote: »
    I was playing solo last night, which is what I normally do, and I was completing a mission in one of the outskirts of MC, out by the wharf. (Just got gold membership and had to start all over.) I had just finished up wiping out the NPC villains in the immediate area when I saw a few other players coming running around the corner and just stop. The next thing I know is that I am swarmed by a massive amount of NPCs and I am fighting for my life. The other PCs just took off and left me to fend for myself.

    I won, but it sure was a pretty tough battle. Afterward I got to thinking that this might have been some type of ambush. I have accidentally lead some NPCs into other people, but I at least stick around and help clean up the mess I created. Or perhaps I am just being paranoid after some of the crap that happened to me in Neverwinter, which has caused me to just stop playing that game. I was getting bored with it anyway.

    Anyway, just curious to see if others have run into this, or at least help me retain some sanity so i stop being paranoid. maybe everyone in the game is a skrull? ;-)

    Well usually it some squishy pogue trying to vulture off my aggro. So I just stop and let them have it and watch them react. Many cases they cant handle it and end up getting smashed and or running off. I figure he wanted that group I had soooo bad that well hell then he can have it. Unknown to him it seems, there are plenty more groups to go around.

    One guy yesterday was so busy trying to get the mobs that I had he forgot about the mobs he already aggroed. Maybe he figured by killing a few of mine I was going to jump for joy and save his skin to show my "appreciation". Nope. If he wanted help or wanted to help a simple tell/local chat would have sufficed. Since there was neither, I let him have the aggro instead of letting me get the aggro while he mooch. He ended up getting beat near death and running off. Then a few try to send a team invite after the fact, which is of course usually immediately declined. I'm thinking usually don't say it though as it may be uncalled for, "Why would I want to team with a mooch that cant even hold his own? I'm better off alone instead of this liability with no manners."
  • nephtnepht Posts: 6,883 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    This stuff happens in most MMO's.
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  • sverbridgesverbridge Posts: 18 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    I used to get challenged constantly for a duel, hence why I turned that off. It's weird that this was the first time this particular thing happened to me. I was a silver for 2 years, now a gold member for 3 weeks, and well I guess I am just being gun shy. I should have realized that this is not something new even though it never happened to me before. There is a lot that's never actually happened to me, so if and when something does, I shouldn't assume personal attack, personal meaning my toon, or anything more malicious than someone being a dill weed.

    I always seem to take the high ground and try to be a gentleman gamer, something which my IRL game group takes pride in being. It always shocks me when I see people that don't play like that. I am having a blast with this game, even if I had to start all over again with a new toon. See you in the game.

    This was my first MMO two years ago. I tried Neverwinter, didn't care for a lot of the people playing and left. Most here seem to be really cool and care about the game. I like that.
  • holloweaverholloweaver Posts: 582 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    I see nothing to be paranoid about here.

    Some players have a very low level of consciousness and are unable to see and understand that behind pixels, there's another player.
    Just like a 6 month baby is unable to see and understand that the huge animated person giving her milk is another person.

    That's life. Nothing to be paranoid about.
  • smoochansmoochan Posts: 2,564 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    I wish people would do this to me. I have to gather my own swarms of mobs :(

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  • cgta1967cgta1967 Posts: 86 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    smoochan wrote: »
    I wish people would do this to me. I have to gather my own swarms of mobs :(

    I know right?

    and you'd be all like "come at me bidges !" then drop into a Mel Gibson rage for some slaughter :smile:

    oh yeah..... 'license to violence' is good. :cool:
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  • kojirohellfirekojirohellfire Posts: 2,075 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    Well, back during the last Christmas event, I was fighting some random mobs (I forget what they were, Maniacs or Black Aces, one of the two) when this tool comes by, opens a nearby present and unleashes a group of evil toys before running off, leaving me with the aggro. Thing is though, my character barely noticed the new enemies and demolished everything in sight, since let's face it, the Still-Heart's awesome.

    Also, there was this debacle not too long ago.

    So, yeah, it does happen.
  • holloweaverholloweaver Posts: 582 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    smoochan wrote: »
    I wish people would do this to me. I have to gather my own swarms of mobs :(

    You're simply at the wrong place at the wrong moment. ;)
  • nextnametakennextnametaken Posts: 2,212 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    Team mates that fly and/or have acrobatics and/or have rocket boots will trigger aggro that hound down their team mate with aura of primal majesty or seraphim or the nanobots whatever that is.

    Tonight. Level 11, 22, and 25...Downtown
    Saved a citizen from a level 28 big three health bar horror.
    He ran for help, get 2 more, then more and then more came it was like a non stop demon party.

    I had AoPM and the level 11 was sporting seraphim and she was flying.
    I dunno..maybe its nothing.
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  • jellycupsowbugjellycupsowbug Posts: 358 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    Sometimes I encounter "reverse tanks" in alerts. They aggro the whole map, just a little, and if you follow them like you would a normal tank, you end up with all of it. Usually they have Invulnerability, Epidemic, and Acrobatics or Super Speed. Tank builds that go out of their way to avoid the team are just as bad.


    There's also "the guy that always stands too close" One version is a person that is likely to draw aggro, and insists on standing right where the aoe can hit as many people as possible, for not good reason. The other is the one that can't take a hit, but likes to stand right next to the person with aggro, and get hit by aoe's.

    A variant is "The circler" who moves constantly, but in such a way that other players have to be wary of any aoe that might get dragged on to them by this behavior. While being mobile isn't inherently bad, it can be as much a detriment as much as an advantage, depending on how wisely it is used.
  • cgta1967cgta1967 Posts: 86 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    Sometimes I encounter "reverse tanks" in alerts. They aggro the whole map, just a little, and if you follow them like you would a normal tank, you end up with all of it. Usually they have Invulnerability, Epidemic, and Acrobatics or Super Speed. Tank builds that go out of their way to avoid the team are just as bad.


    There's also "the guy that always stands too close" One version is a person that is likely to draw aggro, and insists on standing right where the aoe can hit as many people as possible, for not good reason. The other is the one that can't take a hit, but likes to stand right next to the person with aggro, and get hit by aoe's.

    A variant is "The circler" who moves constantly, but in such a way that other players have to be wary of any aoe that might get dragged on to them by this behavior. While being mobile isn't inherently bad, it can be as much a detriment as much as an advantage, depending on how wisely it is used.

    you pay attention alot to how others are playing their game eh ?
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  • towershield#4714 towershield Posts: 1,208 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    cgta1967 wrote: »
    you pay attention alot to how others are playing their game eh ?

    It's called "situational awareness". Something that a great number of players seem to either lack or refuse to utilize.
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  • cgta1967cgta1967 Posts: 86 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    I was leaning toward 'control issues' .....

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  • jerax1011jerax1011 Posts: 966 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    cgta1967 wrote: »
    I was leaning toward 'control issues' .....

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    I'm gonna have to agree with situational awareness, since you can't make people go where they wouldn't die or draw un-needed aggro. But to each their own I suppose...
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  • jellycupsowbugjellycupsowbug Posts: 358 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    It's pretty much impossible to cooperate if you don't pay any attention to how others play. Powers like Sigils, Gas Arrow, and Orbital Cannon are much more effective when the entire team takes advantage of them. I also do it to keep myself standing, and to decide how much the team can pull at once in order to deal with time constraints.
  • drgmstrdrgmstr Posts: 886 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    It's pretty much impossible to cooperate if you don't pay any attention to how others play. Powers like Sigils, Gas Arrow, and Orbital Cannon are much more effective when the entire team takes advantage of them. I also do it to keep myself standing, and to decide how much the team can pull at once in order to deal with time constraints.

    Which is why I despise playing my Grimoire.

    *runs up to boss, places sigils, boss runs after tank kiter or gets knocked back* SON OF A.....


    Or...

    *places Sigils down, pulls group jus tto have said group side track away from sigils to go after healer who is no where close to placement*

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  • sistersiliconsistersilicon Posts: 1,687 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    drgmstr wrote: »
    Which is why I despise playing my Grimoire.

    *runs up to boss, places sigils, boss runs after tank kiter or gets knocked back* SON OF A.....


    Or...

    *places Sigils down, pulls group jus tto have said group side track away from sigils to go after healer who is no where close to placement*

    I want my Orbital Cannon to come with a big text message that says:
    THIS HUGE CROSSHAIR PAINTED ON THE GROUND IS FOR THE BOSS, NOT YOU, S***TY TANK. DON'T F***ING MOVE!
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  • decorumfriendsdecorumfriends Posts: 2,802 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    cybersoldier1981 23 skidoos:

    Well, Timmy, have a seat next to my recliner and I'll share somethin' with you. Have a Werther's Original.

    Well, well, aren't you Mr. Fancy Dan in spats!

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