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According to some people, STO is on "life support" like CO:
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=11147301&postcount=4
Wow, a whole expansion is "life support." What the hell did CO ever get that even came close to that?
:rolleyes:
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=11147301&postcount=4
Wow, a whole expansion is "life support." What the hell did CO ever get that even came close to that?
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They are just spoiled. Going in a hissyfit when CO got the Air Guitar emote for free.
Ofcourse NW got the Air Guitar also. For free.
Go figure.
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Seems to fit here...
Deliciously nutritious!
http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?381222-Game-is-dead&p=4825982&viewfull=1#post4825982
Just one recent example.
Also, NW has the worst cesspool of community ever saw by me. They can whine about pretty much everything. Or exploit everything.
Yet another thing which made me completely uninterested with NW - toxic community.
I have been told to end my life an burn my computer at least 2x (in game), just cuz I suck at PvP.
It's the weirdest community I have ever mingled with.
As someone who has a lifetime subscription to both Cryptic games, starting with Star Trek Online, that guy's willful ignorance is appalling. Naturally, I had to inform him that he was wrong and just how wrong he was.
Someone should mention how Champions once got a new emote, and it was taken away because Star Trek people complained about it.
I think they would self destruct with disbelief.
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in a way, free to play mmos are like diet food. yeah its food, but it just leaves you still feeling hungry.
Oh man, that was a sweet comeback. Obese child indeed.
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?p=11209061&posted=1#post11209061
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Come and pledge for a good Super Hero MMO!:biggrin:
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plus coh was always advertised as "hybrid" it was free to play but you were clearly incentivised to subscribe, these games barely seem to want subscribers, they seem to prefer free players who just buy keys. I honestly have a problem getting my head around it really.
i do wonder though if this highlights a problem though with free to play. when we hear about how successful games are after they go free, we are always told percentages, 400% more people playing a game is less impressive when the real number is still very low, and how many are actually paying mixes things even further. maybe the reality is that free to play only supports the scaled back content.(note i don't play sto, i hear its doing well, but it seems like even it does not get new story and art/animation assetts in the rate old sub only games did, i could be in error though) but maybe free to play cant support development like coh had, and free to play games are doomed to just be slow crawls of minimal growth because of anemic real cash influx.
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=11284141&postcount=18
I swear, some people have no concept of what it's like to actually be under the bus.
With that said i agree that it's nowhere NEAR as bad as Champions is. What Cryptic has allowed champions to be put through is something they should publicly be ashamed about and apologise for.
With THAT said, lol, STO is definitely on that downward spiral with LoR being it's version of Vibora bay.
At this point they're not adding anything that isn't a grind or cash grab, the things they're putting in are entirely half assed, many things just flat out don't work any more or as intended yet aren't being fixed, numerous art assets have been left unfinished since beta, i'm not sure when the last time they added any new costume or weapons packs were, still no level cap increase, The devs are starting to get quiet there as well.
It's nowhere near as bad as the Champs have it, but at the same time all of the early warning signs are there, and even NW is showing them as well. NW is even introducing it's version of the Rep system from the looks of it, which is just grind. Instead of going back and fixing things, or adding the great features to all games, they're really just taking the unpopular cash grab features and spreading that around like it's what built the company.
NW is also charging $30 for a mount.... it's just ridiculous what Cryptic is getting away with now a days instead of fixing or improving it's games.
Might seem ridiculous in comparison to Cryptic's other games, but Neverwinter is the only one that was designed to be free-to-play from the get-go. You don't need a $30 mount. You can get them in the game. What you're paying for is cosmetics.
The mounts are also account wide. Depending on the number of characters you have, they can be a bargain.
Honestly, I dont understand why folks always seem to use the mounts as evidence of over charging. The pets and the bags, items that cost similar amounts but are single character/use, are the items that are WAY over priced.
Right, I guess I'm hallucinating all of the new missions and revamped Klingon content. That's definitely an expansion's worth of content. Hell, it took an evening to download the whole thing.
You do realize this fear is rather ludicrous. The moment CBS felt Cryptic wasn't giving STO the proper support is the moment that they'd yank that license. That's actually part of why STO still does get development and Champions doesn't; Cryptic owns the Champions IP.
(Incidentally, Admiral T'nae is a terrible racist, and Captain Kurland seems awfully condescending...)
I started a Klingon, just to check out the new experience; the revamps of some of the original KDF material starts around lvl 5 or so, after Rura Penthe, but it's so revamped that it might as well be an entirely new experience, up until you raid the Utopia Planitia Shipyards around lvl 20.
Yeah, try to tell me that doesn't count as an expansion, especially when compared with the scraps we've been tossed here...
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That's a good point. Unlocking for your entire account means that at level 20 all your characters already have the highest travel speed. That ain't no thang when you figure it's just the cost of two months' subscription in most MMOs.
Considering that Klingons are the second most liked faction amongst trekkies, right after FED - and they still do not have as many followers as Federation has.
People throwing fits and calling STO or NW abandoned games are simply out of touch with Cryptic reality. One game recently got pretty nice expansion, another one will have it soon.
Meanwhile CO has yet another temporary even coming, unless this fatal error thingy is a permanent addition.
I love the Romulans, though. And Cardassians.
If CO would be given addition of this size then probably everyone here would be happy.
I can guarantee this isn't true. :biggrin:
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First of the Klingons USED to be playable from Level 1, but there was so little content that they took it away and made you start at 29, From before beta we were told the game was two full factions only to find out that KDF had been limited to a PvP faction. There were numerous claims and promises about adding more which never came like they said it would, so much so there is even a page dedicated to it on the STO wiki most of which i think was before they took away the first half of your characters progression. The new KDF content is about two years long overdue, but i suppose that is more of me nit picking since it really had nothing to do with the legacy of romulus.
Second is that nothing was what they said it would be. the Character Creator 2.0 was just a different looking UI, same with the user interface revamp(visual only), the traits aren't all that different(although i hope they're still working on that). a lot of the vet rewards aren't there yet, The romulans aren't a full faction, so much so that they have to join one of the other factions. You're forced to do so to progress story wise, or claim some things from the store. I can't PvP against the KDF or the UFP as a romulan without being on the KDF or UFP team, there is no custom faction EV suit, no Faction fleet bases, no faction fleet weapons, a lot of my C-Store items are only claimable as Fed or Klingon depending on which side i picked.
Not only do i not considerate a faction, but they couldn't even be bothered to put in the effort in making the Remans look like they do on screen, much like the Jem'Hadar, they look similar but not one bit screen accurate. They couldn't even bother making the reman skin (or most skins) go passed the neck. This has been an issue since they first introduced open uniforms, yet only three species seem to have proper full body skins (caitian, trill, and gorn), even the normal skins end at the neck, but there isn't enough detail to distinguish it. The Female remans don't even look anywhere near Reman either. They're more of an "Enhanced playable species" than a faction, and poor excuse for remans are only riding on the coattails.
The whole content was pushed well before it was ready (much like Cryptic likes to do) meaning that not only was it still bugged itself, but it also caused a huge slew of problems to a game that already had plenty. This includes things like Doffs not giving proper bonuses, my ship defenses constantly changing making it impossible to tank, My romulan being called a klingon on several occasions, The return of numerous old bugs, And numerous others that i have yet to see be addressed by Cryptic.
As far as i'm seeing it, it wasn't an expansion as much as it was several over due updates or seasons that just got prematurely pushed to live in one large download.
STIFLED NERD RANT OVER
To keep this post on topic though i still fully believe that while STO is in no way near the shape CO is in, it's still showing all of the same early symptoms. While STO is still owned by CBS, after watching the JJ trek Movies, i feel that they really don't care what happens to the IP as long as it's still making them money.
But that doesn't make it "not an expansion."
I didn't say it wasn't an expansion, just that i refuse to call it one, then when people commented on that i explained some of my reasoning for why.
Had it been more content based on and around the Legacy of Romulus and not as much stuff that should have been added years ago followed by breaking the game, then i would probably be more inclined to admit to it being an actual expansion, especially given that a lot of the content for LoR that WAS romulan based, wasn't even finished, balanced, or debugged before they pushed it live.
It all ties in to what i said though that it's kind of how the Downward spiral starts with the Cryptic games. They'll probably give STO more love since it's not their IP, but at the same time, over time, it will slowly just get worse until all their getting is lock boxes and broken events(like their last one) and Cryptic will be talking about their next big game release.
STO isn't nearly as bad as CO, but it's heading in that direction.
It's like comparing a starving Ethiopian to a person entering a restaurant because he's slightly hungry.
That's a terrible analogy....
CO is already in such a terrible state, my statement is that STO is showing all the signs that CO did before becoming the mess that it is now. I'm not saying STO is just as bad as CO ism and kind of even said that already. it's just starting to show signs of going down hill in terms of quality and development, not lack of content all together.
Actually it's not.
Why do you think I used a starving Ethiopian as a comparison? Unless you're saying poor little !!Dirk who hasn't seen a real meal in ages is somehow in prime condition? Then you'd be hilariously wrong.
STO gets more content on a regular basis than CO could ever dream of. That's why it's going into a restaurant, to get another meal while CO starves.
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You serious? Whats the best way to troll STO players?
Join their fleet then lead them into ambushes like in EVE?
These punks must be made to suffer for our lack of emotes.
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