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Silvers can already buy more character slots, bank slots,and more inventory slots. Why not add being able to buy the ability to carry more than 250G? Maybe with each purchase, you can hold 250 more G or something like that.
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Repeatedly.
This sort of limit is bad for an economy.
I prefer the option of granting a resource limit increase for other Z-Store purchases rather than charging for it directly. My strongest preference would be for eliminating the resource limit entirely for any Silver that has spent at least 500 Zen in the CO Z-Store.
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How about they just add it in to the service tab and charge X amount of Zen for it, the same way all the other stuff works.
"You must make actual purchases to get this" will not make them extra money, just drive away the F2P players.
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In STO we can spend Zen on a limit increase, and I've done so. Why not here?
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Maybe it doesn't have to be an either/or thing. Both could be ways to increase amount of resources that can be carried.
The AH doesn't really have much to offer since anything useful in the game is bound.
I mean, if you want to spend 1000G on a goofy sword, I support you. But the game economy won't be improved by a cap raise because there're no products to buy
Wait? Whaaaa..?
And that retcon I just did yesterday? 470G. I can't imagine what it would have been like having to remove 2/3 the powers, running out of money, and then having to farm the rest on the "build" that was left over.
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Removal of money limit should be on sale LONG before freeform slots, as it is far more substantial for gameplay and game economy than having few more powers.
What Cryptic is doing, is taking money from customers for character slots, AT and freeforms, and then slapping their faces and treating them as a second category customers.
Not to mention about destroying economy in their own game.
No matter if PWCryptic doesn't want or doesn't care, it only makes them looking even more questionable as a company.
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There are a couple of items in the AH that I'd like to buy, that cost as much as 1000G. There are also a few items in my Inventory that I'd like to sell that others are selling for 350G or more, and I'd rather not undercut by limiting it to 200G (allowing me to carry around up to 50G at a time).
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As others have already said, it is good for the game economy. Also I'm getting somewhat annoyed that I can't afford to buy anything useful from other players, so I would probably be willing to pay a good price for this.
In STO it costs 500 Zen (=$5), and affects all characters on the account. That seems just right to me, or maybe even a little low. If it became available, I'd buy it right away.
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For example, it means you now have a barrier to free to players purchasing things that subscibers can set on their products: by setting it one resource above the free maximum, boom, segregation of the gamebase, rivalry, and being a bit of a Zerstoilten to your fellow players!
Which just isn't nice, now is it?
So, remove the limits, via Zen if you must, but somehow!
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I suppose there is some irony in saying that not long before a Lemurian-themed Event is coming.
STO has this option in the Z-Store, and there is no real reason for CO not to have it.
I would buy this as soon as it became available.
This is long overdue, and would have a positive effect on economy (propably).
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Yeah .. and i will never understand why Cryptic just flat ignores to add easy things to make
money that are requested so often, but instead just adds stuff that nobody seems to want
I need some sort of resources cap remover. Been dying to buy something out from AH but couldn't because it cost 500G. Ugh..
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I have been against silver exclusion as soon as I was aware of it. The cap only really affects people already emotionally invested in the game: these are the people who will play the shazbot out of the game, and are they key market for C-Store stuff.
Unlocking the cap for silvers will mean we will see a surge of economic activity, mainly from players reselling C-Store stuff for resources. Which is good. Because it means more people buying C-Store stuff. Which means more Questionite grinding... Or people using real money to buy stuff.
In short... Unlocking the cap will make you money.
You want money, right?
More and more I keep seeing and hearing peeps who are not gold want more and more things which Gold members have. That is the nature? Maybe.
Lifetime membership is very cheap in comparison and in relation to what you get.
Silvers want now or will want everything that Gold members get.
Gold members should also have an incentive that they get plenty of stuff which silvers members don't get and will never have.
The greater the amount of benefits in comparison to non-gold members, the more incentive there will be for going Gold or STAYING gold.
Approx $30 for 100 days of Gold is a great deal.
Go Gold !
While I'm all for Golds getting more things, exclusive things even, something as ridiculous as the resource cap is not something to push for going Gold in my opinion; on the other hand, the (technically) unlimited Freeform slots, exclusive veteran rewards, PTS/other-game early beta access (for Vanguards at least) etc. ARE things which make me want to go Gold/LTS. Just because I'm Silver doesn't mean I don't want to spend money, I just don't like having to undergo a monthly plan for certain limits to be lifted and I would happily pay for a cap increase.
Silver vs Gold should be a matter of HOW one chooses to pay for one's gaming experience, not a matter of what one can buy.
Buying the package deal (LTS or Gold sub) should provide a bargain for those willing to pay up front for an all inclusive package. Even so each element in that package should be available as a micro transaction. A silver opting to buy every element, as a MT, of a LTS or Gold sub would pay more than if he bought the LTS/Gold but should not be locked out of buying anything.
When you go to a restaurant you can buy the full meal, or you can buy the individual dishes of the full meal a la Carte (paying more in the process).
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Same here.
In fact, take a look at the "Consolidate the Currencies" topic in my signature below. It's kind of an all-in-one package that solves multiple things at once.
If you're talking like that, it just shows a bit of ignorance. Maybe I can help explain:
When the 250g limit was put in place, it was because of fear of losing money like Blizzard did with WoW because of "Chinese gold farmers." This was long before PerfectWorld, and the reasoning was that it would prevent new accounts from being used to transfer gold.
This logic is flawed on two accounts:
1. People can still transfer gold in 250g chuncks at a time if they want
2. This isn't a mainstream MMO. Quiet frankly, gold in this game isn't as important as gold in a bigger MMO.
And then market reasons why this helps everyone out:
1. Gold & LTS have a larger market they sell to and have scam risk greatly reduced by increased AH usage.
2. Silvers can afford more expensive items and have scam risk greatly reduced by increased AH usage.
3. Cryptic profits with microtransactions off Silvers buying incremental increases to their gold cap.
4. Allowing larger ticket items to flow freely on the AH will increase demand, increase the rate gold/resources are removed out of the market (helping to prevent inflation) through the 5% fee, increase buyer confidence, etc. The net effect is an increase in trading, "virtual GDP" if you will. The "economy" would grow.
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Dead wrong on:
It's not that I Silver can't buy enough keys to trade for these items, it's that they have to take lots of risks by not using the auction house, because they CANNOT BUY ANYTHING OVER 250g OFF THE AUCTION HOUSE MARKET!
And remember, if you're buying things "a la carte" (like resource caps, freeform slots, and bank slots) you WILL end up spending much more in total.
Why the hell would you, being PerfectWorld, not want more microtransaction spending from a F2P-S2P hybrid game?
Consolidate the currencies! (Please!)
Does your Champion have a theme song? (share it!)
Got a funny in-game screenshot? (share it!)
Please fix the Overdrive energy unlock! (Should help promote thematic build diversity!)
Resurrecting the thread, and for a reason:
Many people want to spend money on this, but as beldin notes here it's being ignored.
Will this minor rules violation of thread necromancy be likewise ignored, or will someone at Cryptic take me to task for it while ignoring the actual request?
In STO, you've proven you can do this, and with little hassle; so why not do it?
There's money in doing this.
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Unethical? Maybe. But profitable.
Also, I am not alone in not accepting keys. Why? I tried to sell some the other day, at 100g (As it's supposed to be) and kept getting undercut by people selling em for 80 and 85. I sat on em for 3 days, having that happen, and finally just opened my lock boxes and swore off keys as a currency. I lost out on 1500g this way.
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Cosmic keys didn't even existed when i wrote that, and also this has been requested very often before that.
Doesn't change that now it's also profitable for Cryptic, thus it's even less likely to change.
This is the reason I no longer actually care about being able to buy deeper pockets. We have a new level of currency above G, and that's K. And it fits right in!
100L = 1 N
100 N = 1G
100 G = 1K (approximately lol)
Also I don't think it is unethical at all; it is just smart business. Hey at least we can do something with the keys other than unlock those dumb loxboxes :O also farming G the old way was a pain in the butt
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What does the K stand for?
L: Local
N: National
G: Global...
K: Kanines? O.o
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Cosmic Keys. The lockbox comment should've tipped you off. Currently, the going rate for one is 100G though lately market forces seem to be pushing it a bit lower.
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Unless there's a sale on. I saw people get actively ripped on for selling keys between 100-110g. A G is a G is a G. it's a sure investment. You buy a key and then want to sell it later, or trade for a key? It's a gamble befitting what the keys are used for.
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Prices change for everything, not just keys. Your 10,000 G might buy a dark speed today, but they might not tommorow
A G is a G is a G, until someone wants more G than you have
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Because if not, then you are one of those stupid/naive people who are responsible for cryptic focusing on keys and lockboxes instead of real development or meaningful cash store additions.
Because why to work for real when you need only to release a few keys and lockboxes and some people suck it up anyway? A Cryptic policy.
No, keys should not be a new currency. Currency is a base functionality of the game. In a f2p game it should not be required to bypass it in that way.
And Cryptic already solved it in STO selling currency limit increase in Z-Store.
Only reason why it's not made, and never will be made in CO, is that either Cryptic don't care about this game and will never care.
Or, because they are thinking about players as a naive cows to milk. With CO they don't care about quality of gameplay. Game's already abandoned and scrapped and only reason why it's still kept running is because they can always find more fools buying keys and lockboxes. Giving them free money for minimal work.
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They are used as a currency because there is no other option for silver accounts.
They were never advertised as a kind of currency. It's a makeshift solution invented by players.
It still doesn't make it a healthy one and it shows a lot about Cryptic stance towards CO.
Best proof is having a real Z-store solution for STO.
And, hate? I'm not playing games that are hated by me.
But this game needs better studio than Cryptic and better management.
There's no reason to justify the global cap in the first place really, especially when you consider what it was meant to prevent.
On the rare occasion I've been gold, what I made use of more than anything was the global cap removal. I mean, I have a shared bank, I can afford to save plenty, yet still must be restricted to transactions of 250g or less. With keys inflating prices now, any item I'm wanting to buy is almost guaranteed to be over 250.
The cap makes things worse for both buyers and sellers, as in it does nothing beneficial for either gold or silver players and simply makes things worse.
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We have lots of options for stuff to use as currency. We could use mods, dark speed, vehicles, other devices, costume pieces, etc all those things have at some point been used instead of G to get around the resource limit. shoot back in the day we used to use crafting mats as a form of currency. this is not new, CO has had alternate currencies since the day it went F2P, and we've had a bunch of choices this whole time. Keys are nice because they have a fairly stable value, unlike a lot of that other stuff, and we can farm them fairly easily.
I don't much care for loxboxes, but I like keys
adding deeper pockets to the store would be neat, but it doesn't matter if they do or don't now
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Indeed, CO has patologies for a long, long time.
Hence it would be only for the best for this game to be released from Cryptic forever.
One can dream, at least.
Would improve economy, would give you money, everybody is happy.
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