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I've been waiting 3 years

itsbrou#5396 itsbrou
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edited February 2013 in Champions Online Discussion
...for a game like this, but there isn't one.
Brou in Cryptic games.
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  • crypticbuxomcrypticbuxom Posts: 4,630 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    ...for a game company that cares more about making a great game than making the biggest profit.
  • kylexiii#1660 kylexiii
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    edited February 2013
    Yes please.

    Especially if said game had staff that had regular communication with their customers, and in that serious problems are fixed quickly.
  • jonsillsjonsills Posts: 6,334 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    crypticbuxom wrote: »
    ...for a company that cares more about making a great game than making the biggest profit.
    There have been several. They've all gone bankrupt and folded. Turns out that creditors, power companies, ISPs, grocery stores, et al., don't much care about how artistic and committed you are. They like money.
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  • clcmercyclcmercy Posts: 313 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    jonsills wrote: »
    There have been several. They've all gone bankrupt and folded. Turns out that creditors, power companies, ISPs, grocery stores, et al., don't much care about how artistic and committed you are. They like money.

    Except we as customers don't have to give them our money. Vote with your wallets, people.
    Occam's Razor makes the cutting clean.
  • thelastsonofzodthelastsonofzod Posts: 658 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    ...For someone to get the joke.
  • crypticbuxomcrypticbuxom Posts: 4,630 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    The joke is funnier if you don't address it directly.
    jonsills wrote: »
    There have been several. They've all gone bankrupt and folded. Turns out that creditors, power companies, ISPs, grocery stores, et al., don't much care about how artistic and committed you are. They like money.

    How many companies that you know of that have failed for making the best of anything out there?
  • kylexiii#1660 kylexiii
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    edited February 2013
    thelastsonofzod wrote: »
    ...For someone to get the joke.

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  • visionstorm01visionstorm01 Posts: 564 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    ...for someone to start another "I've been waiting for..." thread :tongue:
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  • pugdaddypugdaddy Posts: 248 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    No other game has the level of customization that CO does. They release new things on a regular basis. Look at other games, they just don't compare to CO.
  • skcarkskcark Posts: 715 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    jonsills wrote: »
    There have been several. They've all gone bankrupt and folded. Turns out that creditors, power companies, ISPs, grocery stores, et al., don't much care about how artistic and committed you are. They like money.

    I think you took the comment to the extreme, saying if a company for gaming isn't out to make the biggest profit but for the game itself, they must not be trying to make any profit at all.

    You can have a company more committed to the game more than making large profits without them struggling because they are smart and know when and where to add a cost to keep themselves afloat.

    Jagex used to be one such company, at the start, but while they still live, they've gone down badly in reputation.


    pugdaddy wrote: »
    No other game has the level of customization that CO does. They release new things on a regular basis. Look at other games, they just don't compare to CO.

    1 year is not a "Regular" basis. other games can come up with new content weekly while CO barely releases even simple things monthly.
  • rianfrostrianfrost Posts: 578 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    crypticbuxom wrote: »
    The joke is funnier if you don't address it directly.



    How many companies that you know of that have failed for making the best of anything out there?
    best is a measure with a lot of subjectivity, but id say clover studios made a number of games that were critically acclaimed but didn't resonate with the broad crowds, I'd happily call okami the best game of the ps2/xbox/gc era. . and well, paragon studios.
    clcmercy wrote: »
    Except we as customers don't have to give them our money. Vote with your wallets, people.

    and then be outvoted by a factor of 10000 by a bunch of generic drab-brown colored first person shooter fans.
  • agentnx5agentnx5 Posts: 2,026 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    jonsills wrote: »
    There have been several. They've all gone bankrupt and folded. Turns out that creditors, power companies, ISPs, grocery stores, et al., don't much care about how artistic and committed you are. They like money.

    Ugh... Jonsills why...? Why you got to say foolish stuff like this?

    False.

    */me sighs and begins explaining why...*

    This is a inductive reasoning fallacy. It's also false because you said "all" and "all gone bankrupt". Using "all" or "never" is something they teach you not to do in college and even highschool because it almost guarantees a successful rebuttal. You also don't know how many went bankrupt, came back to being profitable later, or were bought (aquisition, i.e.: how EA grew so big).

    Also, It depends on your definition of what consitutes a company that "cares about their customers" and artistic vision, but almost all game companies start out like that.

    Over time as they get bigger and business-bueaurocrats (sp?) rise in the ranks they start focusing more on profit margins than artistic vision and that's where the disconnect between the devs & CS and players begins.

    Many companies however keep their artistic vision and are plenty profitable (how much they care about their customers varies depending on who you ask but the vast majority would say their developers care about their customers "more than most").

    I would argue that the following are all success cases that prove you wrong Jonsills: Valve, Bioware, Insomia Studios (i.e.: Rachet & Clank, Psychonauts), Bungie, and iD Software (the original FPS creators are STILL employees). They're not perfect, I imagine there's several unhappy customers. But they are much more connected with their players than Cryptic/PerfectWorld (limited to one guy who seems to be nice & helpful named TrailTurtle).
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  • kenpojujitsu3kenpojujitsu3 Posts: 1,325 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Couldn't you have saved a few keystrokes and simply said: "not all of them".

    *runs like hell from Agent and the ensuing chapter or War and Peace: Agent's revenge* :tongue:
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  • zahinderzahinder Posts: 996 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    I've heard a lot of good things and few bad things about Trion. While Rift might not be everyone's thing, it seems to be doing tolerably well.

    So there's that.
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  • smoochansmoochan Posts: 2,567 Arc User
    edited February 2013
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  • clcmercyclcmercy Posts: 313 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    smoochan wrote: »
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    ....do you have like...this library of images and simply WAIT for the perfect time to strike with them? :)
    Occam's Razor makes the cutting clean.
  • kenpojujitsu3kenpojujitsu3 Posts: 1,325 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    zahinder wrote: »
    I've heard a lot of good things and few bad things about Trion. While Rift might not be everyone's thing, it seems to be doing tolerably well.

    So there's that.

    It was very fun to me while I played it. The only thing that stopped me is my new found stance on paying subs.
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  • zahinderzahinder Posts: 996 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Yeah, I don't like subs (or servers).

    Rift has a 'free for first 20 levels,' but my one old character is 30+ and I don't feel like playing a game knowing there's a looming brick wall.

    And there was something about the game that didn't quite grab me, despite a bunch of stuff I thought worked very well.
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  • itsbrou#5396 itsbrou
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    edited February 2013
    I love Champions Online.
    Brou in Cryptic games.
  • cellarrat33cellarrat33 Posts: 400 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    someguywhoplaysgames wrote: »
    I love Champions Online.

    I love Champions Online.

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  • gamehobogamehobo Posts: 1,754 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    cellarrat33 wrote: »
    I love Champions Online.

    I love Champions Offline.
  • vorshothvorshoth Posts: 603 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    I love that signal that's turning all the Qularr crazy.
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  • smoochansmoochan Posts: 2,567 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    clcmercy wrote: »
    ....do you have like...this library of images and simply WAIT for the perfect time to strike with them? :)

    Maybe... but if I do, it's nothing compared to Nepht's library of cat pics.
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  • crypticbuxomcrypticbuxom Posts: 4,630 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Champions Online has the best character customization when it comes to diverse costume piece selections and power combinations. I personally think this is the best MMO in that regard.
  • rianfrostrianfrost Posts: 578 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    it certainly is the best superhero mmo of the current offerings.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    gamehobo wrote: »
    I love Champions Offline.

    I love Champions Online.
  • kenpojujitsu3kenpojujitsu3 Posts: 1,325 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    jzsquared wrote: »
    I love Champions Online.

    I love Champions Online amidointhisrite?
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  • visionstorm01visionstorm01 Posts: 564 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    I HATE Champions Online! Ya'll crazy! :mad:
    /trollface
    What? I didn't want to go for the "quote the last post and say what they said" cheese :p
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  • spyralpegacyonspyralpegacyon Posts: 383 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    I got away from 'loving' inanimate objects a while back, but I will say I'm still having a blast rolling around with my heroes!
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  • kenpojujitsu3kenpojujitsu3 Posts: 1,325 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    spyralpegacyon wrote: »
    I got away from 'loving' inanimate objects a while back, but I will say I'm still having a blast rolling around with my heroes!

    Must...resist...urge...to...clown...:biggrin:
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  • clcmercyclcmercy Posts: 313 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    kenpojujitsu3 wrote: »
    I love Champions Online amidointhisrite?

    Champions Online is the best super hero game currently out there.
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  • biffsmackwellbiffsmackwell Posts: 4,743 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    clcmercy wrote: »
    Champions Online is the best super hero game there ever was.

    ..................... :P
  • kenpojujitsu3kenpojujitsu3 Posts: 1,325 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    biffsmackwell wrote: »
    ..................... :P

    Batman: Arkham City would like a word with you...:tongue:

    As would Incredible Hulk Ultimate Destruction, Spider Man 2..and The Punisher (If you modded it to remove the filters)
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  • biffsmackwellbiffsmackwell Posts: 4,743 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    kenpojujitsu3 wrote: »
    Batman: Arkham City would like a word with you...:tongue:

    As would Incredible Hulk Ultimate Destruction, Spider Man 2..and The Punisher (If you modded it to remove the filters)

    Sure, good games, if you like not playing your own hero.
  • kenpojujitsu3kenpojujitsu3 Posts: 1,325 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    biffsmackwell wrote: »
    Sure, good games, if you like not playing your own hero.

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  • spyralpegacyonspyralpegacyon Posts: 383 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    kenpojujitsu3 wrote: »
    Must...resist...urge...to...clown...:biggrin:

    Clown away, man. I have little shame. :biggrin:
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  • biffsmackwellbiffsmackwell Posts: 4,743 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    kenpojujitsu3 wrote: »
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    Batman sucks.

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  • wesleytansgwesleytansg Posts: 863 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    biffsmackwell wrote: »
    Batman sucks.

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    Hmmm, is that a "poke/jab" at his hoarse voice? :P
  • kenpojujitsu3kenpojujitsu3 Posts: 1,325 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    biffsmackwell wrote: »
    batman Sucks.

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    Roflmao!!!!!!
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  • matixzonmatixzon Posts: 120 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    biffsmackwell wrote: »
    Batman sucks.

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    That's one of the few examples of the system working right.
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  • clcmercyclcmercy Posts: 313 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    biffsmackwell wrote: »
    The Dark Knight Rises sucks.

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