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jasinblaze
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What if every boss lair in the game was repeatable and scaled with level?
This would add so much endgame material at a small amount of effort.
I think this has been suggested before, but i think it's a great idea.
This would add so much endgame material at a small amount of effort.
I think this has been suggested before, but i think it's a great idea.
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But... what about EVERY mission scaling to you?
Just need to reach the minimum level to take the mission, but afterwards every single mission will scale with you.
A problem would be presented by open world missions, HOWEVER... we have seen that the Nemesis system let high lvl spawns happen even in lower level areas (like arms dealer at lvl 40 on Viper's base in Canada, or lvl 40 minions on Westside, etc). Just have the mission as primary and the system spawn the appropriate enemies as you get close to the area.
If it can be done quickly and easily, with a minimum of resources used, YES.
If it delays new, substantive content for more than a few weeks...no
I like this idea, just because it kinda boring fighting grays, it easy enough fighting guys at my level.
But this not really not giving us more content, we need something like a mission maker like in City of Heroes.
If they used, "Scary Monster," tech mobs could effectively be multiple levels for multiple levels of players.
I think it might be cool if everything in the game was set up using scary monster tech. Eliminate level restrictions on zones and have the primary mechanical difference between a level 10 and a level 40 player character be the greater power selection available to the 40.
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- rework a few lairs so they work like adventure packs
- rework the entire leveling system
i think 1 is a realistic short term goal@Quincy-St-Moth's PRIMUS page
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My idea didn't really call for much reworking of the leveling system. About the only actual change for the leveling system that it would call for is having missions grant rewards (XP, resources, etc) based on character level rather than a set amount.
In any case my goal, as obviously is yours, in this situation would be to add more options for players. This would allow the guy who got to level 40 without doing a zone to go back and have that zone be (potentially) a viable challenge for his character....as opposed to now where, if you didn't visit Canada on the way to 40 you might as well not bother going back because your character will faceroll everything in the zone.
Still your basic idea of restricting the effort to reworking a few lairs to function like APs seems fine to me. I just happen to really like Scary Monster Tech and think that it is extremely underutilized for what it has the potential to do for the game.
'Caine, miss you bud. Fly high.
Also, if we had to see these changes being worked upon slowly...
Stage one: Lair's rework
Stage two: Scary Mosnter Tech all around.
Though I think the second part would fix the first one immediatly
It would become boring very fast to have always to face the same bosses only on a higher lvl. Basically you are playing always the same content. I have played a game that does this on a regular basis and it is boredomville
Just ask yourself, why the heck would the gangs in Westside still try and beat me down at level 40 after I've beaten them and their leaders (and many tougher ones later on) thoroughly?
This was basically the same counter-argument made when the equivalent suggestion was made for CoX.
I think that argument is a bit weak. Think about it this way... Why are there still bank robberies and normal criminals on Metropolis and why do they keep using firearms against Superman?
How about we make suggestions and let the employees at cryptic worry about what should and shouldn't be implemented. It's not our job to worry if something is "reasonable" or "realistic".
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Perhaps for the same reason that Batman's opponents have been trying to put him down for decades despite being defeated time and again. Same for Spiderman or pretty much every other superhero that I know of.
That is part of the genre. The bad guys don't give it up even when its pretty obvious that they ALWAYS (or almost so) lose. They ALWAYS try again.
This isn't restricted to the world of comic books either. Crime DOES pay and so, no matter how badly the last group of criminals were taken down, there are always new ones to take their place.
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Why, so they can moronically throw the gun at him after running out of ammo! :biggrin:
Because it would become very tiresome to have to invent new villains every (what?) 5-10 issues?
Or as how it's explained here: http://www.spinnyverse.com/2010/10/11/10112010/
Sure NEW villains/members always have the mentality of "I can get away with it" but we are primarily talking about those that you have already beaten down at least once before, since most of them get back out on the street or we would have more than 99% of the population in jail by now.
However, the biggest one that I have against this is that the enemies grow in "base power" as I do.
There will be always bank robberies, no matter what, and firearms were as useless against Superman when he was a lvl 6 (golden age) as when he was lvl 40 (silver age). I just suppose that when you are frightened and you have a firearm in hand you shoot even knowing that it will be useless
Yeah, let's not turn CO into a game where you fight the same bosses over and over again.
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