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Symbiote Power Set!

mjsundaymjsunday Posts: 9 Arc User
edited December 2012 in Suggestions Box
I want to create a Symbiote style character such as Venom, Witchblade, and Darkness. I don't know what my chances are but I think it would rock! Please create a Symbiote power set!
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  • jonsillsjonsills Posts: 6,334 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    You can claim that any powerset you like is caused by fusing with an alien symbiont. To make it look like what you seem to have in mind, pick up the Roin'esh costume bits.

    However, directly copying certain concepts, particularly that of Venom and its offspring, is just asking for more legal trouble than Cryptic is willing to deal with.
    "Science teaches us to expect -- demand -- more than just eerie mysteries. What use is a puzzle that can't be solved? Patience is fine, but I'm not going to stop asking the universe to make sense!"

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  • theapygoostheapygoos Posts: 384 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    jonsills wrote: »
    You can claim that any powerset you like is caused by fusing with an alien symbiont. To make it look like what you seem to have in mind, pick up the Roin'esh costume bits.

    However, directly copying certain concepts, particularly that of Venom and its offspring, is just asking for more legal trouble than Cryptic is willing to deal with.

    its coming from the same guy who wants to make a superman clone build, i dont udnerstand how these people who are actively proclaiming that they are clones of cahracters are getting away with actually doing it.

    some are clever, but the clever oens are roleplayers becasue i know that one or two of teh amrvel groups actively have it set in teh Champions universe provided by cryptic, i forget waht earth they cited it as being viable, but it was.

    Im not a fan of clones myself, if that is not evident.

    back to the main topic however, a shape-shifting powerset wil llikely not be possible because as they put it when i asked about having a fighting staff power set: [paraphrasing here] it would be too much work to put into a powerset whos new animations would likely not see much, if any reuse.
  • jonsillsjonsills Posts: 6,334 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    You can do shapeshifting, in a fashion anyway, but it requires the cooperation of a supergroup to get a second costume slot at low level. Then use one slot for your transformed hero, and the other slot for his/her normal appearance, and change costumes as needed. (Everyone gets the PnP 10-point power Instant Change, after all). If you want three or more forms, you'll need to drop Zen on extra costume slots...

    Sadly, there's no way currently to simulate Multiform well - the only way to swap entire powersets seems to be to log out of one character and into another, and that can take some time.
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  • lotar295lotar295 Posts: 903 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Well,naming it symbiote would be a copyright issue as it directly copies a marvel comic character,HOWEVER there are Roin'Esh already in game that use symbiote-ish like powers(i.e. tendril whips,grabs,yanks) which could be a set,however,naming it roin'esh AT,would be too bland and only fit one concept,perhaps "the bonded" or some other name.

    Also if such a powerset and AT were added,they could mix shapeshifting like powers with Roin'esh organic attacks
  • rokurocarisrokurocaris Posts: 1,079 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    theapygoos wrote: »
    a shape-shifting powerset wil llikely not be possible because as they put it when i asked about having a fighting staff power set: [paraphrasing here] it would be too much work to put into a powerset whos new animations would likely not see much, if any reuse.

    It is possible and I'm working on a s concept for it, to put it up as a suggestion here. The dev's commment you quoted here regards an idea for animal shapeshifting. What I and the OP have in mind is one about growing weapons from your body. And the concept I mentioned is mostly about spines (like in CoX) and tentacles. :wink:

    Also, I don't support cloning. But that shouldn't get in the way of a cool power set, should it? :biggrin:
  • theapygoostheapygoos Posts: 384 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    It is possible and I'm working on a s concept for it, to put it up as a suggestion here. The dev's commment you quoted here regards an idea for animal shapeshifting. What I and the OP have in mind is one about growing weapons from your body. And the concept I mentioned is mostly about spines (like in CoX) and tentacles. :wink:

    dont get me wrong, id love the powerset, im just not holding my breath, cause ill pass out from lack of oxygen
  • shwagoshwago Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    theapygoos wrote: »
    its coming from the same guy who wants to make a superman clone build, i dont udnerstand how these people who are actively proclaiming that they are clones of cahracters are getting away with actually doing it.

    some are clever, but the clever oens are roleplayers becasue i know that one or two of teh amrvel groups actively have it set in teh Champions universe provided by cryptic, i forget waht earth they cited it as being viable, but it was.

    Im not a fan of clones myself, if that is not evident.

    back to the main topic however, a shape-shifting powerset wil llikely not be possible because as they put it when i asked about having a fighting staff power set: [paraphrasing here] it would be too much work to put into a powerset whos new animations would likely not see much, if any reuse.

    sorry but this bs about what the can or can not do is utter BS !

    i remember the devs saying they can not do cars and jets (mounts) and they are now planing on doing just that.

    you cry baby types about "clones" need to get a freaking clue and change your panties. this game clones everything as is the devs are the worse offenders. the new archtype is batman for the love of god......... not to mention every singe movie they have stolen from for 95% of this games storylines.

    so your little well i asked about a fighting staff post and they said not yet we can not ( how the heck does that even apply to his mentioned power set idea escapes me but Ok) do that is just a cop out and lazy sir.
  • beldinbeldin Posts: 1,708 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    jonsills wrote: »
    If you want three or more forms, you'll need to drop Zen on extra costume slots...

    Or just level up a bit :wink:
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  • rokurocarisrokurocaris Posts: 1,079 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    shwago wrote: »
    you cry baby types about "clones" need to get a freaking clue and change your panties. this game clones everything as is the devs are the worse offenders. the new archtype is batman for the love of god......... not to mention every singe movie they have stolen from for 95% of this games storylines.

    I agree that the Night Avenger AT and powers are too close to Batman. And I said the same more than often enough about the Unleashed and Star Wars before.
    But aside from them, I haven't found anything in CO I would consider "stolen". Sure, this game is chuck-full of pop culture references, to about everything, but most of them are actually pretty clever and funny.

    That is the fine difference between a homage/parody and a clone/ripoff. Of you can't have the original, make something similiar and give it a nice little twist that makes it unique. Oh, and you should never address the source directly. Like, if all the Duke Nukem lookalikes running around in Millenium City were named Duke, that would be too close. The Unleashed did that by having a part of a Star Wars game's title as his name and using copies of SWTOR vibroblades as weapons. And the Night Avenger wouldn't be so blatantly Batman if it wasn't for the boomerangs.

    For the shapeshifting powers and archetype, the word "symbiote" needs to be avoided.
  • theapygoostheapygoos Posts: 384 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    shwago wrote: »
    sorry but this bs about what the can or can not do is utter BS !

    i remember the devs saying they can not do cars and jets (mounts) and they are now planing on doing just that.

    you cry baby types about "clones" need to get a freaking clue and change your panties. this game clones everything as is the devs are the worse offenders. the new archtype is batman for the love of god......... not to mention every singe movie they have stolen from for 95% of this games storylines.

    so your little well i asked about a fighting staff post and they said not yet we can not ( how the heck does that even apply to his mentioned power set idea escapes me but Ok) do that is just a cop out and lazy sir.

    Batman , as discussed in MANY threads ,is not the only hero to follow similar suit with martail arts and gadgets. not to mention, teh archetype is designed after nighthawk, sporting fighting claws, something that Bats, and even the closer-to-clone Moon Knight do not use.

    most ideas have already been done in some way or another, so you can point clone to almost every archetype. with the ATs such as the Unleashed, the Invincible, and the Night Avenger, do they seem to call to popular media references? very much so. how else do they market it well. rolling with the flavor of the month seems to have done well for cryptic in terms of AT sales.

    its no coincidence that teh unleashed came out about the same time SW:TOR came out, the Invincible came out at the same time [or around it] that the Avengers hit theaters ("The Invincible Iron Man" anyone?) and yes, not long after the release of TDKR, lo and behold, Nighthawk makes his long awaited appearance.

    i do think that sometimes it is a cop out and an easy to say excuse for not having the powerset, but with how crippled the dev team has been thanks to STO and NW. it dosent surprise me
  • coltmcgrath999coltmcgrath999 Posts: 17 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    How about calling it the morpher since no one has used it yet...
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  • mijjesticmijjestic Posts: 481 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Shapeshifting, Body Morphology, Stretching, these would be a pretty cool addition.
  • keshmarchkeshmarch Posts: 59 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    As a person that actually HAS a symbiotic character(using a combo of Infernal Supernatural and Radiant Supernatural powers), I support this idea.
    lotar295 wrote: »
    Well,naming it symbiote would be a copyright issue as it directly copies a marvel comic character,HOWEVER there are Roin'Esh already in game that use symbiote-ish like powers(i.e. tendril whips,grabs,yanks) which could be a set,however,naming it roin'esh AT,would be too bland and only fit one concept,perhaps "the bonded" or some other name.

    Also if such a powerset and AT were added,they could mix shapeshifting like powers with Roin'esh organic attacks
    Nah. Symbiote is a real word.

    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Symbiote?s=t

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  • wraithshadow13wraithshadow13 Posts: 531 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    For me, i would love it if Darkness powers were either expanded upon, or visually enhanced into a way that looked more like this. Rather than a cheap looking purple haze i would much prefer a thick viscous emanation either in tendril form or a plasma effect. While the Roin'esh power set would be a great work a round to it there are a lot of things i think there would be a lot of potential in sets like these.
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