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Vehicles are great, but what about "content"?
xcaligax
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I'm sure there are a dozen other threads like this, but I didnt bother to scan them all. Vehicles are cool and all, and the new missions are nice. But there hasnt really been a content update since Vibora Bay.
Will there ever be a new zone to explore? New missions involving the lore of Champion's Online?
I found what made Champions Online fun was the building of story and learning some of the lore as you did it's missions. The chain story involving Therakiel, etc etc. What happened to that? A new zone would breathe some new life into this game IMO. Thoughts? Rants? Insults?
Will there ever be a new zone to explore? New missions involving the lore of Champion's Online?
I found what made Champions Online fun was the building of story and learning some of the lore as you did it's missions. The chain story involving Therakiel, etc etc. What happened to that? A new zone would breathe some new life into this game IMO. Thoughts? Rants? Insults?
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Consolidate the currencies! (Please!)
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Please fix the Overdrive energy unlock! (Should help promote thematic build diversity!)
Sadly I'll probably be moving on to just playing Mechwarrior Online, BF3, and possibly Planetside 2 if my PC can run it decently. Ironic, that those three games where vehicles are a primary focus and what makes them interesting and fun to play are what I'm going with over the current "Reloaded" update. Maybe Cryptic could take a look at vehicle interaction in other games and learn something towards making the ones in CO not viewed as a waste of time and resources by the general community...
I'll come back for a day or two if there's a new costume set to buy with my stipend though, so I might have that to look forward to.
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Its probably relevant.
You'll get more content and concepts out of the playberbase than you ever would out of PWE's dev teams.
Will players get recognition for the content they create?
time it takes until Cryptic cancels the development of the current "content" and moves over to
the next gimmick.
I'm really interested what idea they take next to make a behemoth out of it that nobody really
wanted. I still have high hopes for WoW (World of Warlcrawling) Devices, or maybe they also
make Waterpower Devices .. or they are creative and we get "Paint it Black and White" Devices.
And my absolute new personal favorite is : Remove the Costume Creator, start as a Vehicle
and then give us "Become Superhero" Devices :biggrin:
Consolidate currency!
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Why not to do surveys and free offers
It does get kind of boring to run Westside, Canada and the Deserts after a while
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Cryptic has so much of its resources focused on NWN that there's barely a skeleton dev crew left on CO. Since new content doesn't give nearly much RoI as new shinies in the store, you can bet that the handful of people running CO are going to focus their full attention on the shinies.
This was the big fear when PWE bought out Cryptic and they went F2P. The subscription model is a happy medium: games get new content on a regular basis because retaining subscribers is how the developers make money. In the F2P system, it is far more efficient (monetarily) to just push out loads of easy-to-make gear/vehicles/etc. for individual sale than it is to sell new content. Not many people will buy a mission for $10 that takes an hour to complete, but they sure-as-heck will buy a flying tank if they think it'll make them uberer than other players.
Look at STO. We used to get a new, well-crafted mission once a week, complete with new NPCs and environments. The servers were nearly overloaded every Saturday morning when the new "episode" came out. But we don't get those any more. With the same number (hundreds?) of man-hours that a Featured Episode would take to create, Cryptic could (and now does) push out tons of new C-Store ships, items, and lockboxes. I do not expect CO to follow a different path.
So boosting the nemesis system (perhaos with a series of expansions) could dramatically increase game content allowing greater replayability and increasing the potency of the gaming experience.
I reccomend this suggestion thread http://co-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=193531
While she has been rescued
what diabolical mastermind
was behind the devious brain-napping of
the Volterrific Dr Cerebellum?
Also WTS my army of 50+ zombats
1. GIVE US THE FOUNDRY! I cannot emphasis that enough! This game will probably witness a surge of activity if we are given the foundry.
2. REAL CONTENT PLEASE! New Zones, new missions, and for god sakes, a developing story line!
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Standard operating procedure appears to be to channel revenue into development projects rather than to channel revenue towards further developing launched games.
I don't expect this to change. Do feel free to purchase controlling stock in PW so as to change their minds.
Heh. You're adorable. They've already said no. Do feel free to purchase controlling stock in PW so as to change their minds.
Again, you're adorable. We've burnt them every time they tried this. They may be stubborn, but they do learn. Do feel free to purchase controlling stock in PW so as to change their minds.
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Link?
Preferably a link to an official post by someone still employed by the company -and- still assigned to work on Champions Online?
There is no such thing as a free lunch. If you aren't paying for it, you aren't the customer; you are the product being sold.
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Yes, link please...
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I'll ask a counterquestion as to where a dev said 'no'. All I've heard is that its currently not on the horizon due to the massive cataloging needed for setup.
No no no, they can't give you the foundry because you might make a mission where you can get into a vehicle without having paid or farmed for it.
Champions Online: Be the hero you wish you could be in a better game.
How is that not a more elaborate way of saying "no?"
"No" doesn't mean "never," nor "Soon." It means no.
"Not yet" implies they will, or are at least planning to, and I don't recall ever hearing/reading anything even remotely beyond "we'd like to, but are not." "Not on the horizon" means they are not planning to. That's pretty much a no.
I think the "confusion" here is what the response is to.
"Give us the Foundry?" That's a pretty solid no. There's no "one day" or "a couple years from now" or any sort of indication anywhere that they're waiting for anything or that there are any plans at all to port Foundry over to CO, or any indication that might lead to "not yet."
The adverb NOT YET has 1 sense:
1. subsequent to a specified or implied time
Source
We have no specified or implied time to be subsequent to. No dev has ever said there are plans or, I'm sure, intended to give the impression it was going to happen because giving players the impression that anything is going to happen before it's on any sort of schedule for release, and often times not even then, is anathema to Devs, thus "Soon?".
The farthest from "no" we've gotten is to the question, "Will we ever get the Foundry?" To which we recieved the answer "maybe."
The most recent mention of Foundry was in the Winter Ask Cryptic -
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I'd like to point out that reading this again makes it sound like The Foundry isn't ready for CO's majesty, not the other way around.
To me that reads "Are there any plans?" "We are going to wait and see." That's not really a plan, and is a roundabout way of saying "no."
Is it possible that "The earliest the team will start working on..." and, "before going live in champs," means we will get the Foundry for certain? Or that they're planning to? Maybe. But that's still a leap. It's an inferrence, not a statement; not even an implication.
So here we are, "late next year" a year later. There is not a single instance of the word foundry appearing in any post by a searchable individual related to Cryptic in any way, the last word we got can be interpreted either way, and before that it was always "we'd like to but no."
Source
Also, the irony in the "we can't give you Foundry because we're currently dedicated to aaaaaall this other stuff you aren't going to get," followed by the aforementioned Foundry isn't up to CO's standards? Delicious.
After reading all this crap tho, I can see where it's all coming from. There's a constant effort to find roundabout ways of saying no without directly saying no.
Q: Foundry, yes or no?
A: It depends on your definition of the word "or..."
"Q: Any plans for the Foundry?
A: The earliest the team will start working on setting up Champs for the Foundry is late next year. "
"we don?t have a timeframe for when this will happen yet."
Note that the quotes state, "will," not, "might," or, "could."
I am not saying that the Foundry is actually coming to CO, just that if we are going to rely on semantics for our determination of Cryptic's intent, that one word might be important.
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I will stop arguing with people on the forums.
Let's see what happens.
Champions Online: Be the hero you wish you could be in a better game.
As I said, I am not actually stating that they are going to implement the foundry here. I was pointing out the problem with the use of semantics to determine Cryptic's intent.
And besides...you argue ? Hardly
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Totally agree with this. Would love to see more mission content; especially anything that leverages the wonderful Pen and Paper IP. Lairs, Missions, Adventure Packs, Comic Series... Would rather support them by paying for these in the Q Store rather than anything else.
The Foundry would be very nice as well but probably consumes a lot more resources than adding Lairs, Missions, AP's and CS's. Any form of repeatable mission if the storyline is high quality and tied to the IP.
Agreed, that's what I mean that I can see where it's all coming from - the use of "will" surrounded by vague wording. For example, is "we don't have a timeframe for when this will happen yet," referring to adding foundry, acquiring resources, or achieving their goals?
Is there a class in being cryptic as part of new hire training or something over there?
If they cant even deliver on that, how can they deliver the foundry itself?
EDIT:
Also, aren't those Robobos words?
With Stokeman here, Are Rbobo's promises, plans or implications still relevant?
Seems to me, that until we hear the word "foundry" from Stokeman, there are no plans for it.
PVP is starving without rewards
1. Please give us Daily PVP missions that reward Questionite.
2. Please give us an exchange rate between Acclaim and Recognition so that PVP has access to all "On Alert" PVE rewards.
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They all thought I was out of the game....But I'm holding all the lockboxes now..
I'll......FOAM FINGER YOUR BACK!
PVP is starving without rewards
1. Please give us Daily PVP missions that reward Questionite.
2. Please give us an exchange rate between Acclaim and Recognition so that PVP has access to all "On Alert" PVE rewards.
So one of the NEXT patches means at least over 10 months in Cryptic time.
Personally, I don't have much interest in the vehicles since I prefer to fight directly with my own character in which I have put a lot of time to customize the costume and also select powers for my freeform.
It will be very interested if the vehicles are added with a finction in which they can transform into humanoid form and merge with the character where players are allowed to customize and design the outfit for the merge. In addition to that, after the merging between the superhero with the vehicle, the character will become very large as the super magnifier do but with more damage, damage resistance and speed.
There are many rooms for development in the stories of Champion online. For example, The aliens Roin'esh are launching a another invasion, Dr. Destroyer try to turn every single human into organic robots or cyborgs which faithfully obey his order to assist him in world domination, VIPER creates more supersoldier and mutants with DRAYSHA gas, Shadow Destroyer is trying to create a artificial black hole which releases Qliphoth energy to corrupt everything and to change humans into evil being to obey him, etc.
Anyway, even though many suggestions have been made but are there any developer in Cryptic capable of creating new and interesting content.
This probably won't happen any time soon. It would effectively allow players to divine the drop rates on the lockboxes and salvage kits without having to spend (potentially) hours copying characters to the test server to collect enough keys/boxes. Also, it would allow players to test the rewards first hand, possibly convincing them to not spend any money if the rewards aren't as uber as the reward description may imply.
Are you trying to say that there's something that can't be sold in the Z store?
Cryptic: Challenge accepted.
Champions Online: Be the hero you wish you could be in a better game.
The only chance i think we have of getting foundry ported to CO is if it is proven as a cash cow in another Cryptic MMO (like lock boxes).
In all seriousness, i wish they would.
PVP is starving without rewards
1. Please give us Daily PVP missions that reward Questionite.
2. Please give us an exchange rate between Acclaim and Recognition so that PVP has access to all "On Alert" PVE rewards.
Accept this challenge plz.
Whatever .. this at least let me leave all trust in whatever anyone from Cryptic says, since
it was such a flat lie.
Also .. i don't buy any travel-powers that i can't test before. So in the end there are only
costumes left that i would buy, since i never would buy any gamble stuff or become devices.