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Max melee damage/darkness

mauk2mauk2 Posts: 76 Arc User
edited October 2012 in Builds and Roles
Ok, my team support/healer/tank is about done, so it's time for the next project.

So, I'm looking at a maximum damage melee toon with modest to okay survivability.

I lowered the number of attacks and slathered on FOUR offenses. Everything is geared to build up a stack of enrage and then laser sword combos until your fingers ache.

If this approach seems...silly...any advice/suggestions are greatly appreciated! :)


PowerHouse (Link to this build)

Name: Dark/Energy Melee Damage

Archetype: Freeform

Super Stats:
Level 6: Strength (Primary)
Level 10: Dexterity (Secondary)
Level 15: Endurance (Secondary)

Talents:
Level 1: The Devastator
Level 6: Martial Focus
Level 9: Bodybuilder
Level 12: Accurate
Level 15: Impresario
Level 18: Relentless
Level 21: Paramilitary Training

Powers:
Level 1: Shadow Bolt
Level 1: Shadow Embrace (Rank 2, Dark Displacement)
Level 6: Spirit Reverberation
Level 8: Laser Sword (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 11: Parry (The Elusive Monk)
Level 14: Enrage (Endorphin Rush)
Level 17: Defiance (Rank 2)
Level 20: Conviction (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 23: Resurgence (Rank 2, Evanescent Emergence)
Level 26: Ego Surge (Nimble Mind)
Level 29: Aggressor (Rank 2)
Level 32: Masterful Dodge (Rank 2)
Level 35: Electric Sheath (Rank 2)
Level 38: Intensity (Rank 2)

Travel Powers:
Level 6: Athletics (Versatility)
Level 35: Teleportation

Specializations:
Strength: Physical Peak (3/3)
Strength: Aggression (2/2)
Strength: Brutality (2/2)
Strength: Overpower (3/3)
Warden: Fortified Gear (3/3)
Warden: Slaughter (3/3)
Warden: Tenacious (1/2)
Warden: The Best Defense (3/3)
Vindicator: Aggressive Stance (2/2)
Vindicator: Merciless (3/3)
Vindicator: The Rush of Battle (2/3)
Vindicator: Focused Strikes (3/3)
Mastery: Warden Mastery (1/1)
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  • monsterdaddymonsterdaddy Posts: 795 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Ah my good friend Mauk, I've been looking into this too. We must think alike because I was also looking into Spirit Reverberation for energy to fuel a Brawler Laser Sword toon.

    But I think you forgot one of your SS has to be CON for the energy return from both Defiance and Spirit Reverberation LOL!

    In any case, I have come to the conclusion that any Max damage toon has to have DEX for PSS for the Mastery w/Warden and Vindicator. And the highest damage melee power is Dragon Claws per second. For some crazy reason, on paper it should be Laser Sword but on PH vs. dummies it's Dragon's Claws easily. I think Laser Sword is taking longer than 0.5 seconds per stroke.

    I'm still working on mine but I was looking at Quarry in Brawler role. And I have a Left Eye of the Dragon. Now I am mulling paying for a 4 slot Helm/Breastplate...
  • tditstdits Posts: 561 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Are the Powerhouse dummies really an accurate representation of DPS? Don't they have unusually high defense values?
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  • s3rjus3rju Posts: 268 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    PowerHouse (Link to this build)

    Name:

    Archetype: Freeform

    Super Stats:
    Level 6: Dexterity (Primary)
    Level 10: Constitution (Secondary)
    Level 15: Recovery (Secondary)

    Talents:
    Level 1: The Master
    Level 6: Relentless
    Level 9: Physical Conditioning
    Level 12: Martial Focus
    Level 15: Acrobat
    Level 18: Impresario
    Level 21: Quick Recovery

    Powers:
    Level 1: Shadow Bolt
    Level 1: Void Shift (Emerging Nightmares)
    Level 6: Spirit Reverberation
    Level 8: Defiance
    Level 11: One Hundred Hands (Rank 2, Rank 3, Ghostly Strikes)
    Level 14: Bountiful Chi Resurgence (Rank 2, Resurgent Reiki)
    Level 17: Form of the Tempest
    Level 20: Masterful Dodge
    Level 23: Parry (The Elusive Monk)
    Level 26: Shadow Embrace (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 29: Conviction (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 32: Resurgence (Rank 2, Evanescent Emergence)
    Level 35: Dragon Uppercut (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 38: Ebon Ruin (Rank 2, Paranormal Paranoia)

    Travel Powers:
    Level 6: Athletics (Versatility)
    Level 35: Teleportation

    Specializations:
    Dexterity: Gear Utilization (3/3)
    Dexterity: Brush It Off (2/2)
    Dexterity: Deadly Aim (3/3)
    Dexterity: Expose Weakness (2/2)
    Vindicator: Merciless (3/3)
    Vindicator: Initiative (2/2)
    Vindicator: Focused Strikes (2/3)
    Vindicator: Modified Gear (1/2)
    Vindicator: Mass Destruction (2/3)
    Warden: Fortified Gear (3/3)
    Warden: Ruthless (2/2)
    Warden: Tenacious (2/2)
    Warden: The Best Defense (3/3)
    Mastery: Dexterity Mastery (1/1)

    this is my initial thought when someone mentions darkness/melee...
    you can switch defiance for quarry, if you do switch rec for int and talent/innate accordingly.

    you can also switch things like ebon ruin and shadow embrace for an active offense of your liking i dropped laser sword since i didn't see the point in having it on a darkness build :confused:
    but if you choose to keep it, switch 100 hands maybe. you can take dark transfusion if you feel like it too.

    oh and monsterdaddy did you test that out with quarry? cuz that would do it for dragon's claws, being considered physical dmg and all... for pure melee i like brawler vindicator more, offense is an additive stat so DR hits, haven't tested how hard tho. brawler with dex as PSS and vindicator and you get a nice % debuff going on your targets between the 3

    I think the build is pretty solid, it has both ranged and melee covered up well, as well as being survivable. hope this helps :biggrin:
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  • monsterdaddymonsterdaddy Posts: 795 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    tdits wrote: »
    Are the Powerhouse dummies really an accurate representation of DPS? Don't they have unusually high defense values?
    It is accurate for a RELATIVE comparison of DPS. i.e. Laser Sword vs. Dragon's Claws -- which defeats the dummy faster. I like this to compare which powers have better DPS.

    For actual DPS, I believe the dummies are fairly good for Super Villain level targets who I heard have about 10% damage resistance. I tend to record the time in seconds to take out a dummy and then divide 33K (the dummy's HP) by the number of seconds to ESTIMATE actual DPS.

    You will get some surprising results when you do this vs. calculating things on paper, i.e. the lower than expected Laser Sword DPS.

    Serju, yes Quarry + melee role + Dragon's Claws testing. I kept Warden for Best Defence -- a nice boost in survivability plus a small boost to crit chance/damage. Obviously, Way of the Warrior is better for damage but that flat 18% dodge buff in Quarry is pretty unbeatable for defense for a melee role.
  • s3rjus3rju Posts: 268 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    oh you don't have to tell me man, i'd take quarry over way of the warrior everyday of the week :biggrin: it's a great passive when you know how to work it's magic.

    that being said, when you can cover up the survivablity with your powers then you can see a significant difference.

    as for testing DPS.... use the parser.
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  • monsterdaddymonsterdaddy Posts: 795 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Very tempted to take Thundering Kicks and a Legion's BP of Agility with 2x Gambler's Luck to get 100% Dodge and pretty high avoidance. Problem is getting a dang Legion BP of Agility. Plus the Left Eye with a Legion Helm of Speed, hehe.
  • mauk2mauk2 Posts: 76 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    (reads)

    (thinks)

    (tinkers)


    Okay, max is MAX, so dragon claws is in. I'm also worried about diminishing returns, so I am going to stick in some debuff. This next build should get 14-18 percent resistance debuff pretty easily.

    I'm also worried about keeping enraged up, so I want another rage-maker or knock power, and I really want a lunge. Those are just useful.

    So, see what folks think:

    PowerHouse (Link to this build)

    Name: Dark/Claws Melee Damage

    Archetype: Freeform

    Super Stats:
    Level 6: Dexterity (Primary)
    Level 10: Strength (Secondary)
    Level 15: Constitution (Secondary)

    Talents:
    Level 1: The Devastator
    Level 6: Martial Focus
    Level 9: Physical Conditioning
    Level 12: Acrobat
    Level 15: Impresario
    Level 18: Relentless
    Level 21: Paramilitary Training

    Powers:
    Level 1: Shadow Bolt
    Level 1: Shadow Embrace (Rank 2, Dark Displacement)
    Level 6: Spirit Reverberation
    Level 8: Parry (The Elusive Monk)
    Level 11: Quarry (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 14: Dragon's Claws (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 17: Enrage (Endorphin Rush)
    Level 20: Conviction (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 23: Resurgence (Rank 2, Evanescent Emergence)
    Level 26: Seismic Smash (Massive Attack)
    Level 29: Evasive Maneuvers
    Level 32: Masterful Dodge (Rank 2)
    Level 35: Ego Surge (Nimble Mind)
    Level 38: Intensity (Rank 2)

    Travel Powers:
    Level 6: Athletics (Rank 2, Versatility)
    Level 35: Teleportation

    Specializations:
    Dexterity: Gear Utilization (3/3)
    Dexterity: Power Swell (2/2)
    Dexterity: Deadly Aim (3/3)
    Dexterity: Expose Weakness (2/2)
    Warden: Fortified Gear (3/3)
    Warden: Ruthless (2/2)
    Warden: Tenacious (2/2)
    Warden: The Best Defense (3/3)
    Vindicator: Aggressive Stance (2/2)
    Vindicator: Merciless (3/3)
    Vindicator: Initiative (2/2)
    Vindicator: Focused Strikes (3/3)
    Mastery: Dexterity Mastery (1/1)
  • ajanusajanus Posts: 501 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    With PSS DEX, you should be running Form of the Tempest as your form, not Enrage.

    Also, since Parry-EM reduces your damage, I would run Force Shield-Force Sheath instead as my block, to maximize damage. This will also free up some adv points to put into R3 Athletics.

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  • s3rjus3rju Posts: 268 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    quarry needs int, since the audacity stacks scale with it. switch to wotw. drop parry and take retaliation to maximize dmg.

    masterful dodge and no bcr? huh? ok let me fix this...

    PowerHouse (Link to this build)

    Name: Dark/Claws Melee Damage

    Archetype: Freeform

    Super Stats:
    Level 6: Dexterity (Primary)
    Level 10: Strength (Secondary)
    Level 15: Constitution (Secondary)

    Talents:
    Level 1: The Master
    Level 6: Martial Focus
    Level 9: Physical Conditioning
    Level 12: Acrobat
    Level 15: Relentless
    Level 18: Impresario
    Level 21: Quick Recovery

    Powers:
    Level 1: Shadow Bolt
    Level 1: Shadow Embrace (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 6: Spirit Reverberation
    Level 8: Retaliation
    Level 11: Way of the Warrior (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 14: Dragon's Claws (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 17: Form of the Tempest
    Level 20: Bountiful Chi Resurgence (Rank 2, Resurgent Reiki)
    Level 23: Resurgence (Rank 2, Evanescent Emergence)
    Level 26: Void Shift (Emerging Nightmares)
    Level 29: Evasive Maneuvers (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 32: Masterful Dodge
    Level 35: Ice Sheath (Rank 2)
    Level 38: Summon Shadows (Rank 2, Devouring Darkness)

    Travel Powers:
    Level 6: Athletics (Rank 2, Rank 3, Versatility)
    Level 35: Teleportation

    Specializations:
    Dexterity: Gear Utilization (3/3)
    Dexterity: Power Swell (2/2)
    Dexterity: Deadly Aim (3/3)
    Dexterity: Expose Weakness (2/2)
    Warden: Fortified Gear (3/3)
    Warden: Ruthless (2/2)
    Warden: Tenacious (2/2)
    Warden: The Best Defense (3/3)
    Vindicator: Aggressive Stance (2/2)
    Vindicator: Merciless (3/3)
    Vindicator: Initiative (2/2)
    Vindicator: Focused Strikes (3/3)
    Mastery: Dexterity Mastery (1/1)
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